I'm totally with you but i think you don't understand what i'm trying to say. I'm constantly working on bettering my situation. I workout and i work on my career and all that stuff but you wanna tell me that i have to be a god only to attract average chicks.Strongly advise you to delete the word "should" from your vocabulary.
In my opinion, nobody should appreciate me for anything. "Shoulding" on others and yourself only leads to resentment. I refer to OP and others on this site as examples; they operate from a position of how the world "should" be...and when things don't go to plan, they blame others...because it's easier to find fault in others, instead of taking responsibility for their own failures.
It's really simple:
Set your expectations high, and be prepared to work your azz off for it. Don't expect anything to come easily.
Work on the inside and outside: find something to keep you passionate and/or busy; hit the gym if you haven't already.
Focus on the things you can control.
No matter what some of the guys on SS say, YOU are in control. YOU, not outside circumstances, determine the type of women you will attract or repel.
Really? I see it ALL the time. Literally every time I go out. Perhaps not alone, but i see pairs and groups of 3-4. All you need is a wingman.Yeah, sitting there with their boyfriend/husband or a group of their friends. I can’t remember the last time I saw an attractive women sitting at a bar. Alone. Looking bored. Without her face in her phone.
That is me. I'm not a model or something and i have a lot of work to do. But within 2-3 weeks on 2-3 different dating apps i got almost 0 results.You want the best, and as long as you're prepared to pay for it, that's good.
Don't even waste a second of your time on average-to-ugly chicks. That's not what you want, and you're not going to accept it. Good.
You will find that many "above average" chicks don't deserve the best of you, either.
It has nothing to do with laziness. Nor do I understand why you always say "we" in all your posts as if you speak for everyone here. If you don't have success with OLD then I am sorry. Those of us who do aren't "lazy." It's true it takes little overall investment past setting up a profile -- but that is the beauty of it.Solid post indeed. Thanks for sharing @Georgepithyou.
Those apps are trash, not sure why most guys are so into them. Let's start with the fact that most women there are low-hanging fruit (self-steam issues, baggage, hit the wall, desperate, seeking free validation, etc, etc, etc, we can go for hours). Not saying people haven't met a quality woman there. We have heard stories of people finding solid relationships there but your chances are minimal. And it is getting worse by the minute.
Women there get bombarded with attention, mostly AFC's. Don't expect to find good use of your time. But then again, some folk here swear by OLD and excuse/disguise them as "just another option". That just speaks laziness to us. L.A.Z.I.N.E.S.S.
Like @Jake_Gyllenhaal69 said, people on those apps are taking a dump when they look at them, its an entertainment at this point more than a serious platform to find companionship in whatever shape or form that is. It just takes no effort.
Anyways, we really appreciate your post and analysis on OLD.
Solid, brother.
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We appreciate your honesty and response. And by "we", we mean our company (Modern Man Advice / Or our Modern Man Advice community).It has nothing to do with laziness. Nor do I understand why you always say "we" in all your posts as if you speak for everyone here. If you don't have success with OLD then I am sorry. Those of us who do aren't "lazy." It's true it takes little overall investment past setting up a profile -- but that is the beauty of it.
And to be clear, I agree with trying to meet women IRL. All of my more meaningful relationships (LTRs) have come from IRL encounters and not off of OLD. But to say every chick you can get off OLD is "low hanging fruit" or has a lot of baggage compared to other women is laughable. I haven't really noticed any huge difference between them and any other woman I have come across.
This is exactly how I have thought privately. Exchange 'ugly women' for 'non-muscular men'....same level of distaste.It may be good to self reflect but why should I work my ass off only to have success with ugly women ?
They should even appreciate me how I am now.
We are not speaking for you. See our response to Barrister. Hopefully, you understand given your profile pic.I don't understand that either, and I don't appreciate people trying to speak for me, but I suspect it has something to do with wanting to appear important...larger...
We are not speaking for you. See our response to Barrister.
It's my problem if I am insulted by someone who has never met me, doesn't understand my daily life or my motivations, calling me "lazy." lol. Got it. Welcome to the internet in 2021.We appreciate your honesty and response. And by "we", we mean our company (Modern Man Advice / Or our Modern Man Advice community).
Having said that, we do not speak for everyone here, nor we intend to, we can see everyone here has their own opinion and they are entitled to it. Just like we are.
It is lazy. What effort do you put in when using OLD? Downloading the app and uploading your pics? That's an effort to you? Come on brother, be real. We dream of the ol' times when Roman warriors actually put themselves on the front line to fight for courage, honor, strength, mastery. Or even when men put their lives at risk for the sake of their tribes. When courage was more than an act of faith. When a man had to fight for what he loved and cherished.
We are not completely against OLD, in fact, we used them for years in the past and have had our share of good and bad times. But there is a correlation between the mindset these apps are placing you without you realizing it and having real-time approaches. If you do not see the difference, then you are simply still plugged brother.
Have a good hard look at how those apps work and their algorithms (our background is in Tech just FYI). Think about it for a second before getting all sensitively offended.
If you (or anybody else here) got offended by being called lazy that's not our problem, we are not here to walk on eggshells and boost your "alpha" ego. We are here to stand our ground and fight our fight.
We feel strongly about a mindset a man should have, and OLD is not part of that. Again, we dream of the days men were real men and took risks.
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Spend minimum investment on OLD. Don't spend more than ten minutes on it daily. Copy and paste messages, quick responses and boom don't go near it for the rest of the day. You're leaving a little fishing rod there on the off chance that something bites. In the meantime : you're busy with life in real.It may be good to self reflect but why should I work my ass off only to have success with ugly women ?
You're trying to control something that is outside your boundary. Don't evaluate their lack of responses or how anyone responds to you from a personal perspective. Expect nothing, something bites, it bites. If not fvck it. You live life.They should even appreciate me how I am now.
Yes.
Debatable what's worth visiting. OLD maybe valuable to you, while there are other things more valuable to me. Priorities.There are no places worth visiting that require a shortcut.
No. You can work smarter, not harder. You don't have to sweat like a construction worker in the burning sun to get results.Minimal effort almost always yields minimal results. You get what you put into it.
Priorities. This is a very low priority to me. I'm not that attached or outcome dependent when it comes to women.Anything an aspiring DJ does, I encourage him to do it with 100% maximum effort.
thanks for the advice, but I'll stick with ams online dating advice. Working out alright for me so far with minimum effort. Rather put that work into more important things. Women they come they go.If you're willing to spend only a few minutes on it, then don't bother with it at all.
Not really. Try meditating for 10 minutes a day on a daily basis and see if you yield results. The string em along method is fine for me as I keep my energy for more pressing matters.It takes more than 10 minutes a day to succeed at most things, and this definitely includes OLD.
Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.