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Is the Federal Reserve really unconstitutional? Can someone show me where? Isn't a separation of powers, even though they're economic, preferable in this situation? Somebody to hold the government accountable? Probably just the libertarian in me...
 

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Originally posted by MetalFortress
Um, excuse me, but someone who can't even spell "masturbate" correctly has no place lecturing us on talking about economics. And in case you forgot, financial and economic discussion are not banned.
Ok so you're going to tell me that talking about the GOVERNMENTS financial and economic well being is not Politics?

What have you never taken Poli Sci 101?
 

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Originally posted by MetalFortress
Hmm, so if the 450 million was put up, they would HAVE to sell it back?
To answer this, MetalFortress,the number is actually $1 billion and there are a few Americans with that type of money who come to mind, I bet you could probably name some if you really thought about it. ;)

The Federal Reserve Bunk

CONCLUSION

No Congress, no President has been strong enough to stand up to the foreign-controlled Federal Reserve Bank. Yet there is a catch - one that President Kennedy recognized before he was slain - the original deal in 1913 creating the Federal Reserve Bank had a simple backout clause. The investors loaned the United States Government $1 billion. And the backout clause allows the United States to buy out the system for that $1 billion. If the Federal Reserve Bank were demolished and the Congress of the United States took control of the currency, as required in the Constitution, the National Debt would virtually end overnight, and the need for more taxes and even the income tax, itself. Thomas Jefferson was concise in his early warning to the American nation, "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

Eerily enough, this is a primary Libertarian goal, to whittle down, if not, do away with the Income tax altogether.

Originally posted by seanchai
Is the Federal Reserve really unconstitutional? Can someone show me where? Isn't a separation of powers, even though they're economic, preferable in this situation? Somebody to hold the government accountable? Probably just the libertarian in me...
You aren't the only one, I'm glad to see that the Libertarian Party is starting to get namedropped more than once on occasion, I've come to realise that it doesn't matter if you are Republican or Democrat, it's two sides of the same coin. Not that the Lib. Party doesn't have a few things that I would change about them, it now has the honor of being the ONLY American party that hasn't sold out.

I've got some people to contact...
 

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Originally posted by Vincent
Ok so you're going to tell me that talking about the GOVERNMENTS financial and economic well being is not Politics?

What have you never taken Poli Sci 101?
It's talking about economics, not politics. We're not talking about "bush sucks" or "kerry blows" or "republicans can die" or "democrats are gay", here.
 

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Originally posted by Vincent
Ok so you're going to tell me that talking about the GOVERNMENTS financial and economic well being is not Politics?

What have you never taken Poli Sci 101?

Vincent.. Economics doesn't necessarly mean Politics.. it CAN.. if you are politicing to what can be done to better our economic system, i.e taxcuts, welfare programs, etc.

The Fed Reserve is not in this case I beileve at least, political because both parties are equally, as well as most americans, to blame... It's not like it's one parties fault and we are posting to damn that party, it's a naitonwide issue, just as if we made a post in regards to aids or Date Rape.

And this isn't just the goverments ecnomical state, it's the countries... A large portion of all personal income taxes go stright to not only the Fed REserve, ,but just to pay off the INTEREST of the fed reserve.

seanchai, in a sense you are right, but you are right in the wrong sense, if tha tmakes any sense.

Yes, because we are a demorocy and not a monarchy, you want the seperation of powers, hence the checks and balance system.



You are correct in assuming that you don't want one person controlling the majority of the coutries powers.

Were it gets unconstituatial, is because, if you read my other post (which somehow got locked), the Fed Reserve is not only ran by a private corporation... only 2 of the twelve banks that own the Fed Reserve.. wait, 3, are based in the unites states. Most are european.. meaning that our economic wellbeing for better or for worse is in the hands of people who do not have our best interests in mind.

According to the consitutation, transfering any govermental powers to anyone outside of the united states is Treason.

It's like if Medicare was ran by say.... France or if our Supereme Court was ran by... India. It would be unconstituational.

Anyone else notice that the biggest depression that we have had in the last 30-40 years, came directly after the
budget was balanced? We didn't run out of money, the Fed Reserve just became stingy and stopped sending us money.

the fed reserve does not want the budget balanced? Why? The budget just hit 8 TRILLION dollars. Interest on that is I THINK, I may very well be wrong.. around 5 percent. 5 percent of 8 Trillion dollars is 400 Billion Dollars per year... Interest...

They do nothing but print money, which costs next to nothing to print.

There are roughtly 300 shareholders in the Fed REserve in ALL.., ,as I said earlier, mostly outside the country.

So I hope that somewhat explains why the FEd Reserve is unconstituational.
 

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Originally posted by Vincent
Ok so you're going to tell me that talking about the GOVERNMENTS financial and economic well being is not Politics?

What have you never taken Poli Sci 101?
Originally posted by Vincent


Frankly if you want to talk about these things there are plenty of other political, economonical, religious discussion waste of time forums on the internet for you to masterbate your ability to do research to try and impress people on the internet to. This is not one of them.
Originally posted by Vincent
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Vincent - enough with the semantics tennis, and making assumptions that because your intellectual boundaries are being stretched, then so must others.

And if you think the thread is political, lock the damn thread again, and stop the 'oohs' and 'aahs' about it; it either is, or isn't.
 

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I thought the US Mint, part of the Department of the Treasury and thus the US Government, was in charge of printing money, and that the Federal Reserve was in charge of what should be done with it in the open market, i.e. buying or selling T-bonds.

At least, that's what I remember from Econ 201. Ha, what a fun class.
 

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Damn, you guys know more about our secret one world government conspiracy than I expected.

I'm gonna have to contact the Illuminati to shut down our operations in Canada.
 

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Originally posted by diplomatic_lies
Damn, you guys know more about our secret one world government conspiracy than I expected.

I'm gonna have to contact the Illuminati to shut down our operations in Canada.
You'd be surprised Agent. We also... have... um...

Wait, I can't say.
 
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