Why u should ignore lifestyle & be a social robot

[Eulogy]

(TylerDurden's most recent post)

First of all, being a social robot is cool. I like being a social robot. It's fun. So **** Y'ALL.

Second, chances are if you're reading this site, your game ain't that great. And if your game ain't that great, the missing piece AIN'T LIFESTYLE. The missing piece is GAME.

You think you need some ELABORATE LIFESTYLE to PULL A CHICK?! LOL..

This **** isn't entertaining the Queen.. Cummon!

Newsflash: I lived in a congested CLOSET with a single mattress in it for a year, and got laid more than anyone at Project Hollywood for the duration of the time I was there (unless you count not going out and having sex with the same girl over and over as getting laid, in which case I did pretty bad.)

And before that - I travelled for a year sleeping on the floors of hotel rooms that I usually shared with six or eight guys. And you want to know what I did then? I pulled girls from clubs back to the hotel bathroom (while they asked - "What are all these guys doing in here?!") and turned on the shower to cover up the noise and turned the lights off so they would forget they were hooking up with a guy they just met in a BATHROOM!

Every day I read these guys saying that their missing piece is lifestyle. SHUT THE **** UP!! The missing piece is YOU SUCK..

Guys might clown me for living ****ty for a year to save money while I built a business and a skillset. Well, I don't blame them. Because they aren't where I'm at right now, and they probably never will be. They know they're not getting to the level I'm at because they aren't willing to give up the comforts that I was willing to give up in order to get there. So they'd might as well find fault in SOMETHING.

I remember living at Project Hollywood, and guys would talk to me about LIFESTYLE like "Why do you go out so much?" or "Why not get a girlfriend?" or "Why hang out with PUAs and not girls?" Like, as if getting an LTR or female friends was some kind of accomplishment or rocket science that I didn't have since I was nineteen.

Most of them sat around the house watching movies or playing video games or sniffing whip-its, or just chilling with the same girl every single day. Apparently they had big things on the go, I don't know. I mean really, I don't know. I didn't see anything come out of it, but it's very possible that they did.

I just knew one thing: I had MY OWN reasons for being there in the first place, and I wasn't going to let peer pressure from guys who had changed up their plans at the half way mark distract me from following through with the goals that I'd set for myself (to actualize my potential, by developing the social skills I was capable of).

In the case of Pro Ho, I was paying more than I could afford to live in West Hollywood, and I'd made the commitment BEFORE I'd moved in that if I was going to stretch myself like that then I would work on my skillset EVERY DAY.

Here's why:

I knew I was paying THROUGH THE NOSE to live in an overpriced house in West Hollywood, two minutes away from the bars. If I want to do something OTHER than sarge girls in West Hollywood venues, then I'll do it somewhere CHEAPER. Sure, I met great girls to be in LTRs with (at the end of the lease, I picked my favourite one and we're still together.) But at that point my outlook was, "I have the rest of my life to be in an LTR and hang out with NON-community friends, whereas I've got 12 months to live with PUA wingmen right beside the hottest clubs in West Hollywood."

Now don't get it confused - lifestyle is the shizzznet. The epiphany that lifestyle is more efficient than sarging (IF your game is already tight) is spot on. Whoever came up with that one was a smart dude (Wait, wasn't I one of the first dudes to start spreading that out of common sense?! I forgot!) When you roll out and you've got people coming up on you giving you props and a circle of cool guy and girlfriends to draw new girls into that's GREAT.

But guys have the ORDER of how this goes down TWISTED.

When I roll out, I'm not running up on girls like "pump, pump, pump, number" and jumping to the next girl like a monkey swinging off of branches. I'm in the club to have a good time, and I'm meeting all sorts of people. I've got all that lifestyle **** on lock automatically. Is this **** so complicated as to even need whole posts on it?!

I have more female friends that I could ever keep track of from all the sarges I did that didn't result in sex. And I've got guy friends as well since making friends with guys is automatic because of commonalities. I know more people in any club in Los Angeles than a lot of famous socialites do. I could write a book on LIFESTYLE. But I never made a CONCIOUS EFFORT do implement it, other than to be a cool guy and go out and get to know people and going with the flow.

Why was I able to do this? BECAUSE OF GAME. If you're a CHODE and you're rolling out trying to build this lifestyle, people don't take it seriously. Nobody wants to hang with chodes, no matter what their lifestyle is. They might use them to get into a party, but they're not HANGING with them. So that wasn't my approach. I built lifestyle AUTOMATICALLY and PROACTIVELY through the game. It was simple, once I had the base of social skills.

And you know what's cool about it? When I talk to people and they want to hang out, it's because of ME and MY SOCIAL SKILLS.. Not some lifestyle I built to make people want to use me for connections. I might build these connections NATURALLY, but it's on top of what I've already got.. I'm definitely not going to be one of those guys who can't travel to a different city or country and can't get meet girls because my crew isn't on hand. That whole philosophy is BACKWARDS LOOKING. It's REGRESSIVE.

I read these posts by guys who I've met personally and who I know aren't the types to be cool or to have people wanting to hang with them, and they're telling me that they're building lifestyle and inner game. I'm thinking to myself "If you had the social skills, then the lifestyle would COME TO YOU.. And your inner game would be good because you'd offer a good energy to people and have something real to feel good about rather than doing incantations and deluding yourself that you're the prize when you have nothing to back it up.."

So what was my reasoning for being a champion social robot and going full out at this game **** for three years? Simple. I had a plan, and I carried it through. The way I see it, if I'm going to make a plan and I can't stick to it, then I can't assume that I'm going to stick to ANYTHING. So I follow through with the ****, and when it's done I move onto something else.

Guys asked me all the time why I came back to college to study useless literature and philosophy when my career is already built. Why? Because back in the day I made a plan to GRADUATE COLLEGE. So I'm coming back to carry out that plan.

Most of the guys at Pro Ho said they were going to go out every night when they moved in. But when it came down to doing it, most of them were too busy having epiphanies about how the game was evil and they needed to broaden their horizons. And they'd see me going out every night, and they'd talk up all sorts of **** (never to my face, where they were always SUPER cool and friendly to me, but when I wasn't around or in spiteful books) "He's a SOCIAL ROBOT!! He needs to find validation FROM WITHIN!!"

I'd see this going on, and inside I'd be thinking - "Look, I go out to meet girls and have a good time, and to develop my social skills to a point the level I know I'm capable of. If YOU were going out to fill some internal void, there's no need to PROJECT that **** ******dly onto the rest of us. Sorry if you don't like to bang hot chicks anymore, but the game isn't played at the lowest common denominator like that. Guys who enjoy it should be able to talk about it without those kind of projections being put onto them."

When I came into this game, like MANY GUYS I made the decision to dedicate a few years to it and reaching a certain skill level. The difference was just that I stuck to it, even past the point where I HAD to out of neediness and it was actually for fun.

I mean, the game is a GOOD THING. It's not a ****ing FAD. You can make a FAD of "direct" or "indirect" or "attract" and "rapport." But you can't say that the ENTIRE GAME is a FAD. This **** has improved my life on so many levels. And there's other guys for whom it SAVED THEM from becoming introverted haters for the rest of their lives.

If YOU want these skills, don't let these rash of posts about lifestyle and balance hold you back. Especially since this whole EITHER/OR thing doesn't even make sense. You can develop them BOTH at the same time. At this point I have the lifestyle and the balance AND the game. I just went after it IN A NATURAL ORDER and ONE PIECE AT A TIME.

So do what you want to do. Take feedback, but in the end don't worry what other people will say. A lot of people dissed me for my choices. They felt fit to be CRITICS of what I'm doing, and to make an occupation of making subjective judgements on my decisions and doing what was right for ME at the time. And if I'd listened to them, I guess I wouldn't be getting dissed. But then, where would I be? I'd be where somebody ELSE thought I should be, not where I wanted to be MYSELF. So I guess what I'm trying to say is to think about that, and to do what's best for you.


-TD
RSD (c) 2005
100% Content - 0 % Political Flame Bull****

 

[A-Unit]

Re:

Gotta agree with the man. His story is much the same of anyone who has passion to plan his work and work his plan.

I did the same, not nearly as large a scale, and not nearly as intensive, but I did it. For years post-college, I just went out with whatever friends, wherever, doing whatever. Worked out, lived at home, read, visited people. I didn't have a comfort zone and still don't.

One of my closest friends I met at a kegger I threw @ my parents while they were on vacation. The first time we chilled, we were going to bust his sorta-gf of cheating and he wanted back-up in case the dudes started something. Suffice it to say, we were out numbered 10 to 2, but in the end, we ended up partying with the guys til 5am, while his X-GF went home crying for fcking shyt up.

It's very taxing to await a lifestyle or end goal while not living today, while not building today. TD's perspective is much the same of a successful persons's who is goal oriented and not results driven. He realizes life is one of batting averages, not of totality. It's not all failure or all success. It's the average of batting 33%, and DOING WELL.

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The thing you get from TD and you realize is that, it's never perfect. You go out and sometimes its easy and you make tons of pulls, and other nights its slow and you do nothing. But if you can go out with confidence to pull at a high pressure, you can do it anywhere and not care.

It's the simple failures that actually teach you ALOT. It's being shut down that builds confidence. You experienced that pain, now you can get to the next level. It's like working out. Growth of muscle is only possible so long as you're inflicting constant, growing pain. Your size increases, and the pain never stops, only your threshhold for pain grows, so you can handle MORE.

I'd have to say TD sounds more genuine than a lifestyle-focused robot. He goes out to be in the trenches, makes friends for the sake of friends, and while he does go after girls, it's the girls saying yes, and not any tricks a PUA uses.

A-Unit

 

[RaWBLooD]

... I was on the impression a social robot seeks validation from the people he hangs with, this guys "just goin n havin fun" isnt being a social robot. Social robot is what the losers do when they try to steal your girl right in front of you.

 

[The Antichrist_Star]

If sleeping on the floors of various hotel rooms but sleeping with a myriad of women is his idea of a great time then more power to him...

^ That however, isn't my idea of a good time...

To each is own.

AS

 

[Jay-X]

this post is awesome... pros to tyler durden and to the guy who reposted it

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by The Antichrist_Star
If sleeping on the floors of various hotel rooms but sleeping with a myriad of women is his idea of a great time then more power to him...

^ That however, isn't my idea of a good time...

To each is own.

AS

see how rich guys lived while they started out, the ones that went from nothing to lots, from 12 karats to rocks.

 

[locarius]

This is clearly a response to a post by Style.

And you know what... Tyler D IS a social robot. I've seen seminars featuring Tyler, I've heard tapes featuring Tyler, I've read **** from countless other PUAs and they all say that Tyler D is a nerd who needs his whole life to be a routine because he has NO PERSONALITY. He has had to **** up hundreds of thousands of social experiences to figure out what to do and what not to do. He has programmed himself. He doesn't do what he wants, he does what his social self programming tells him he should do. Cold and calculated.

But to his credit, I've never met the guy yet. Im sure he is a great PUA, but I am also sure he doesn't do LTRs because after a few days the girl realizes that he is an automaton.

 

[locarius]

To me, the game is just a tool.

Let me 'splain. No... there is too much. Let me sum up.

I worked hard on my inner game issues, changed my attitude, set goals for myself... and basicly figured out who I am and who I will be in 5, 10, 25 years.

The game to me is just a way to find the girl I am going to share that with. I've worked really hard on myself and I will find the best girl out there so I can lead her through life. When I see a guy like TylerD or any other number of PUAs, all I can think is "Damn it must be sad to dedicate your whole life to sleeping with lots of girls". No wonder so many PUAs feel empty. But hey, we all have different goals.

 

[Jay-X]

I don't give a rat's fùck about TD's life... what this post has taught me is that you don't have to concentrate on your lifestyle or on your inner game, but just on the Game... at least, until you're able to pull almost every chick in sight...

if you concentrate on lifestyle and such, you'll always find excuses for not approaching or not improving your real Game...

when you are a Master PUA, you can start concentrating on your lifestyle and stuff if you want, but not before

 

[thederekeffect1]

I haven't read the whole thing but based off the first few sentences, I can say one thing... This **** IS a lifestyle. *shakes head* Well, whatever helps you guys.

 

[Boner da Stoner]

3 out of 10 are not AFC's... damn somebody's gotta spread the definition of AFC to another extreme. I'd be a proginator but why fight the whole river when I just gotta play the fish?

tyler durden is a little baby *****, being a social robot is not when he's spreadin in da post, he's spreading 'I'm not going to ***** about what they say about me! NONONO I won't cry, NOOOOOO I AM NOT SCREAMING ABOUT IT!!!!!'

He's talkin bout how others have the nerve to talk about you behind your back, whilst having the knowledge(beyond common sense that's where game comes from. You get no game from guessing, guessing leads to empathetic BS that leads to inferances due to implications that are beyond your control) that you will hear what they speak.

Durden's got game, soially inept game albeit, but it's still game.

He'll bounce and pounce, but he believes otherwise. He can groove, too bad he doesn't realize the truth.

I give my props to TC he's got a step up on millions, light years ahead of billions. but still he's got a few bricks missing. Over and over again I see the same.

 

[Eulogy]

Originally posted by Boner da Stoner
3 out of 10 are not AFC's... damn somebody's gotta spread the definition of AFC to another extreme. I'd be a proginator but why fight the whole river when I just gotta play the fish?

tyler durden is a little baby *****, being a social robot is not when he's spreadin in da post, he's spreading 'I'm not going to ***** about what they say about me! NONONO I won't cry, NOOOOOO I AM NOT SCREAMING ABOUT IT!!!!!'

He's talkin bout how others have the nerve to talk about you behind your back, whilst having the knowledge(beyond common sense that's where game comes from. You get no game from guessing, guessing leads to empathetic BS that leads to inferances due to implications that are beyond your control) that you will hear what they speak.

Durden's got game, soially inept game albeit, but it's still game.

He'll bounce and pounce, but he believes otherwise. He can groove, too bad he doesn't realize the truth.

I give my props to TC he's got a step up on millions, light years ahead of billions. but still he's got a few bricks missing. Over and over again I see the same.

Your post made absolutly no sense. Also, you are an eskimo.

 

[Boner da Stoner]

I know I'm an eskimo, it's literally living inside of an airport up here. Hell if I want to make sure I get my food in da winter now I gotta make sure I watch the weather and check if my damned veggi tables aren't frozen yet. I hate the word eskimo, I've learned about cooking my food, I don't eat imported chicken, I make sure I ain't eating no damned cow brains, and pinik stinks, I gotta beat it brown and floppy!

Hehe, that post makes perfect sense to me

I just have to reread it a few times and remember that I don't say what I mean, I only say what should be heard.

For your sake and for durden's there is no way I'm going to write a rebuttal against this post, I will only comment. For if I respond, in an intelligent manner, to anything I find remotely inspiring, I am likely to pop a few neurisms in yo thick skull.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

I'm a firm believer in the "fake it 'till you make it" personality model, but the problem inherent in it is determining just when you've "made it."

I've read The Game and I can certainly understand why TD would feel the need to defend himself, but the problem with expecting former AFCs to become PUAs (particularly in the course of one expensive PU workshop) is that some never make this determination in their own personalities. I would assume TD has and has his own rationale for recognizing this change in himself, but that doesn't imply that other will have the same epiphany he's gone through, thus the backlash. Even Style admits to this in the opening of the book. He rakes TD over the coals and defines him as a 'social robot', but was he really any less when he was a 'student' of Mystery, d Angelo, Jefferies or any of the others he names in the book when he was learning how to sarge? I don't know any of these guy's personally, but it may be that Style's reaction to TD was uncomfortable to him because he was reviewing his own progress to becoming a mPUA and didn't like what he was too preoccupied to notice in himself.

I can also empathize with TD in that Style needed a pathetic charaterization of the community to engender and pander to this stupid, regressionary, AFC romanticism in summing up his experience to sell books and TD was the most convenient player to fill that role. I'm not saying Style was dishonest, but I will say that I noticed how conveniently TD (and Mystery to a lesser degree) filled this pathetic, 'social robot' fallout from the community, to give his progression towards being 'better" than the rest because 'he cares about people' more legitimacy. And trust me, this is exactly how the movie for The Game will end (there are film rights in negotiation right now) with this syrupy, "you were right all along dear" recanting of his PUA mastery in pursuit of his ONEitis soul-mate to make himself better than "those other guys" (like any good Nice Guy/AFC). Mystery was too close to his mark and someone we can sympathize with, Strauss needed an unsympathetic characterization to embody a 'social robot'. To do this Style needs a Tyler Durden.