Why: Thinking of every girl as girlfriend material?

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I dont know why im always wondering if "that" girl would be a good girlfriend? And if we go on a date i treat her like a girlfriend and trying to be a "gentleman". And that strategy cost me totally seven years of realationship because I have too much of a heart to tell them I'm not interested in anything more than sex.

I dont know why I always think that I can't just have sex with women and then walk away. Or I do know, social conditioning, but I dont know how to get rid off it? I would love to be able to show my intensions...
 

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When you pursue a woman, you can do it in a way that makes the interaction clearly about a one-off night of sex or in a way that makes your intentions clear that you are pursuing something more than that.

What confuses women (and often the guy seducing her) is when he gives her the signals that he thinks of her as girlfriend material when in fact he's only thinking of pumping and dumping her. If he does this, she often feels used, manipulated, and so on. Also, for newer DJs, something similar can happen: "When, I banged her and now she's angry because I refuse to giver her a relationship." Well, of course she is, given you gave her every indication that your intentions were more than just sex.

Girls are not fragile little flowers.

If you pursue a woman just for sex and do it in a way where she knows that's what is up, she can decide whether she's on board or not. Very many are, if turned on enough.

And you can pursue a woman in a way that gets across the idea that you are interested in more than just quick sex but rather would like to date her on the regular.

All that said, don't get me wrong, if you want to pursue sex by giving women the impression you are pursuing a relationship, go for it. That often works to get the lay as well, but just don't be surprised when they react negatively afterward when they realized you are not gonna girlfriend them up. That's a predictable reaction, one guys have as well when women do the same thing.

One situation, though, I have found myself in sometimes is when I am willing to date a woman and pursue something more than just a few bouts of sex and then after a few dates/bangs, I pull back a little to make her do some work. That is, does she expect me to do ALL THE CALLING and ALL THE SETTING UP OF MUTUALLY FREE DAYS TO GO OUT and therefore ALL THE CHASING? Well, when that happens, I sometimes fade away. I'm willing to make the plans, but she should call and see when I'm free once in a while, especially if she has a busy schedule. Women's entitlement complex tells them they have to do NO INVESTMENT beyond showing up and spreading. I think that's the wrong frame to continue to pursue. It puts you in needy chump mode. So, there's been times where there's been women I'd like to see more than a few times but didn't because she did not put in any work whatsoever to move things forward. When that happens, it APPEARS TO HER that I pumped and dumped her when in fact she undermined my own interest by expecting me to be beholding her to golden vagina while showing me too little mutual pursuit.

Anyway, I hope this helps you with your question.
 

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Hi. I get what your saying, and it this I dont feel comftarble with:
When you pursue a woman, you can do it in a way that makes the interaction clearly about a one-off night of sex
I also have the problem of almost "falling in love" with every random girl that I somewhat connected with. But the problem with those girls are that I dont want an ordinary realtionship, I just want to hang out with them, have fun and being free to hook up with other girls. How do you tell them that?
 

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DJ7 said:
Hi. I get what your saying, and it this I dont feel comftarble with:


I also have the problem of almost "falling in love" with every random girl that I somewhat connected with. But the problem with those girls are that I dont want an ordinary realtionship, I just want to hang out with them, have fun and being free to hook up with other girls. How do you tell them that?
You don't. You don't bring up anything. Go on dates, fvck her, don't see her too much, and when she brings up a relationship, brush it off. Say something like "I like you but I like how things are now. Lets just see how this goes."

Sooner or later though she will prob give you an ultimatum. She will either get attached or find another guy.
 

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DJ7 said:
I dont know why I always think that I can't just have sex with women and then walk away. Or I do know, social conditioning, but I dont know how to get rid off it? I would love to be able to show my intensions...
Are you actually having sex with lots of women, and then having trouble when the relationship problem comes up? Do you have no troubles getting dates/numbers?

If so, then just be clear with your intentions WHEN she asks about any kind of relationship.

If you ARE interested in a relationship, take some time to figure out your criteria if what you'd like in a gf (non physical traits) and STICK TO THEM.

Then you'll be able to separate girls into categories rather quickly.

Have sex with ALL girls as soon as possible, and then just let them filter themselves out.

Eventually one will mention a relationship, and since she meets your criteria, you'll keep her.

As far as being clear up, front a friend of mine had an ingenious solutions.

On the very first date, he would tell them a "story" about a "friend" of his. This "friend" dated plenty of girls and never settled with just one.

If the girl he was telling this story to reacted in horror, then he knew she would NEVER stand for some guy seeing other girls.

If, on the other hand, the girl said something like, "Well, I guess if everybody know's what's up"

then he knew it was game on.
 

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taiyuu_otoko said:
On the very first date, he would tell them a "story" about a "friend" of his. This "friend" dated plenty of girls and never settled with just one.

If the girl he was telling this story to reacted in horror, then he knew she would NEVER stand for some guy seeing other girls.

If, on the other hand, the girl said something like, "Well, I guess if everybody know's what's up"

then he knew it was game on.
That's genius. :rolleyes:
 

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DJ7 said:
I dont know why im always wondering if "that" girl would be a good girlfriend? And if we go on a date i treat her like a girlfriend and trying to be a "gentleman". And that strategy cost me totally seven years of realationship because I have too much of a heart to tell them I'm not interested in anything more than sex.

I dont know why I always think that I can't just have sex with women and then walk away. Or I do know, social conditioning, but I dont know how to get rid off it? I would love to be able to show my intensions...
I myself date only for long term relationships. Otherwise its pointless. I guess I am a physicist and my time is valuable. So I don't see a point of doing something for one night if it is not going to lead to anything further. That plus also I have very hard time finding women. So why throw away something I "finally" found and then spend more months or years looking for something else, if I could instead just keep it and then the problem would be solved?
 

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DJ7 said:
I dont know why I always think that I can't just have sex with women and then walk away. Or I do know, social conditioning, but I dont know how to get rid off it? I would love to be able to show my intensions...
You're fighting your inner self here. It's a biological imperative for men to 'collect' women. Unfortunately society seems to frown on us if we try to collect a new one before getting rid of the old one.

So when you pump and dump, blame society! :up:
 
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