I go gym 6 days a week for about an hour a day. If you want to get a really good physique and maintain it, you need to be ready to commit a lot of time to it. It took me 2 years of consistent hard work/dieting to get to my goal body.
That is an impressive amount of time in the gym. I think that's worth doing.
Getting muscles is good, but one thing a lot of gymcels neglect is working on their social skills. You meet women by putting yourself into contact with social groups on a regular basis.
If you have big muscles and ripped abs, you don't need as good of social skills in order to get laid. The problem might be that there are enough people with big enough muscles but extremely poor social skills, even below the lower threshold of social skills needed when big muscles are present.
Meeting women at the gym is challenging.
When considering the general gym floor environment, the majority of women are in their own worlds with their earbuds and oblivious to stuff. It's possible to get attention from women at the gym if your physique is really good. They might get out of their earbuds world if that's the case. That won't be reality even for the majority of fit men.
The best workaround to the earbud problem if you're part of the majority of men at the gym is going to fitness classes at the gym or a separate class-based fitness concept. Fitness classes are less about building big muscles though. The big chain gyms like 24 Hour, LA Fitness, Lifetime, and Equinox all have classes. Then, there are class-based concepts like a SoulCycle or Title Boxing. Ratios are generally good at these classes and better than the general gym floor, especially in the weights area of the gym. Fitness class approaching isn't the easiest thing either. You have a 5 minute window before/after a fitness class to strike up a conversation and get a number. It's easiest to do it after class as compared to before class. During the 45-60 minute class, you can make strong eye contact and smile to try to assess who is most approachable. Even when you do all of this, it's no guarantee of anything because a lot of women aren't social with strangers at fitness classes.
There are jacked guys that are insecure, that isn't an excuse to not work out tho. This reminds me of a college friend I had, Vinny. He was once a "skinny loser with no self esteem" as he put it. When I met him he looked decent he had been working out for about a year and a half. We would go out to meet girls. Sometimes chicks would go for him and they would mention his physique, he still blew it with a lot of them. Reason being he was largely the same guy but with muscles. The problem was the mind, it hadn't caught up to the body.
Vinny seems like one of those guys with zero social skills. As I said earlier, you don't need as much charisma when you have big muscles, but there's a baseline of charisma needed even when big muscles are present, and he didn't have it.
Women definitely desire the body. To say otherwise is akin to saying tits and ass doesn't contribute one iota to a females attractiveness. Attractive, confident women will appear to he more unphased- some will even dismiss a guys physique, treat it as if it means nothing(guys that just rely on their looks fold at this point). See it for what it is, its a manipulation tactic. They want the body but also want the whole package ie a confident, charming, ambitious fit man. They don't want to be duped by some gym rat socially awkward loser that has nothing else going for him.
No need for that but any self respecting male will take up some form of exercise and yes it will make him more attractive by default.
This is all accurate. Big tits and a great ass will attract me, even more than personality. The big tits and great ass need to be a part of a woman who isn't overweight.
Even Vinny with muscles and zero charisma was better off than Vinny with no muscles and no charisma.
Let's say a guy has big muscles and gets sex from a party gal. How is this is a problem? It isn't. Party gals are often under 27 women with nice enough bodies.
It depends if you are just looking for sex or not. If yes, then this ain't a problem. If no, then this will be a problem because you will never have a healthy relationship with a party girl. Eventually she's going to get bored and want to try out the streets again. It's going to be extremely hard for a gymcel to relate to normal women because of his lifestyle and the things he follows on the internet from the redpill pipeline.
I agree that men need to tone down red pill commentary around most women. Going full red pill or black pill isn't attractive. Subtle red pill is acceptable.
If a guy can get party women for sex, that's an achievement. Also, all relationships have a shelf life of goodness. The shelf life is likely shorter with a party gal, but even regular women have a shelf life of goodness. Trying to put a ring on a party gal is a bad idea and there are men who try that. Some party gals are good about exiting interactions before a man is silly enough to try that.
If a man has big muscles and isn't getting laid, could part of the problem be a marketing problem? Perhaps he's targeting the wrong behavioral group? Maybe he needs to focus more on women who live for the gym and partying. Sex and shorter term relationships with those women seems like a good solution. As said earlier, some small level of social skills are needed for that attraction-seduction.
