backbreaker said:
one thing i have always wanted to ask you and I will do so now point blank; why do you try so hard to be difficult? why are you so hell bent on taking extreme points of view?
I think the problem you're having here is something that I often do myself. I read something you said which I found interesting, and it inspired me to say something else on the topic. What you said gets kind of lumped in with about 10 other posts that I read that said something very similar, and I wrote out what I think about it. It's not that I was trying to attack you personally, or even trying to argue with you really.
But I've felt this way before too, when someone responds to something I say. I may feel like they're trying to refute me or attack me, when what is really happening is that they're taking my comment as a jumping off point for what they want to say.
I don't feel like I take extreme points of view, though. I feel like some stances that you read here are extreme in themselves and I try to move them back toward the center (For example, the idea that all women fvck bad boys in their 20s, then marry a chump in their 30s, all the while fvcking a bad boy behind their back. I've given up at tilting at that particular windmill, however).
As for going out of my way to be difficult, I may have a problem with that. I rarely accept what people tell me, I have to make up my own mind about it. And if what they say doesn't match my experience, I will say so.
backbreaker said:
i cannot stress this enough; i am not taking about dating a girl in a relationship or blowing her mind out in bed or being able to successfully spin 5 plates at a time. I am simply talking about, being a normal guy and having normal women, look at you and say "humm.. he looks interesting"
Having a girl look at you and say "humm...he looks interesting" is a lot different than someone saying "women will flock to you" or "women will be beating down your door". I've been reading quite a few posts where guys will say "I started working out now women are flocking to me" or "Get a hobby and women will flock to you".
I'm objecting to this "women will flock to you" idea, because I have not found any one thing that will literally make women "flock to you". Because if there was one thing I could do that would make women beat down my door, I would do it lol. Although I'm sure that would get old fast.
backbreaker said:
that's not hard to do. it really isn't. and you make it sound like some draconian task or some ****. Even guys who are clueless with women, are still able to get them interested in them. **** just about every guy I know is fvcking clueless with women and just about none of them have any real problem finding dates and chilling with girls or what not.
See, now I agree with you completely. Most guys I know have a girlfriend or whatever, or if they are more into just getting laid, they have their little stables of slvts or whatever, or know how to get the one night stands. Getting women is a lot easier than they make it out to be here, where you have to fold flap A onto flap B, then stand on your head while you recite the alpha oath, etc. At the same time, it will never be as simple as they make it here, either, where it falls neatly into a formula. Everybody is different, every girl is different, every guy is different. I've never made any claim of being a player, I don't even have any ambition to be a player. But my girlfriend finds me interesting.
The main thing to take from this place is to avoid the AFC mistakes (and you don't have to go overboard about it) and to put yourself out there, and get experience. Most guys are not going to be able to get every hottie they want, but they'll get some.
no it's not. but once you actually meet a woman, the fact that you have a broad scope of interests, women do like. There is a very good reason why i slept with at least, well over 50% of the girls i went on dates with. I do not understand why you are aruging with me about this it's fvcking common sense. it really is.
it's like you and others are just, fvcking hell bent on being negative nancy's about dating. if that's the case why are you even here
I agree it's good to be a well rounded person, I think I even said that. I was just pointing out that some hobbies will draw women moreso than others. By the way, at one point I was considering getting a saltwater tank, but I decided it looked like too much of a pain in the @ss to mess with. But they're definitely cool, and I'm sure any girl who came into your house and checked it out would find it interesting.
I don't think I'm negative about dating though, except I do buy into a good deal of the misandry laws/don't get married attitude that's going on now. The culture (and the current morality) is in a bad place right now. IMO.
As for why I'm here, that's a question I've asked myself more than once lol. Most of this stuff is aimed at younger guys who go to clubs. Someone recently said they come here mainly for entertainment, and I think that fits me pretty well. I like message boards, and for the last several years at least, this one has caught my attention, and imagination.