Why the F*ck are you having problems with women?

[lifeislearning]

I can't understand why so many guys on here are having woman issues. I see so many guys here and in the world talk a big game of having good jobs, money, bulging muscles, interesting lives, sleek cars, and 10 pound c*cks, and I can't help but wonder why the hell you are having women problems?

Guess what: if half of that is true and you make any effort, you shouldn't be having women problems.

I know women who have settled for one of those things from the first guy who made a decent effort.

FACT IS: if you're having woman issues, either your life sucks or you just aren't trying. Women are everywhere and they are pretty simple to figure out. Actually they're not easy to figure out, but how YOU should act is.

Can we all be honest for a minute? Your problem isn't with women, it's with YOU. Your life may sound interesting, but maybe you don't think it is. Maybe you wish you were working on different goals or in a different field. Maybe you don't hit the gym enough to get rid of your gut. What ever the problem is, something doesn't match up.

I'm certainly not perfect, and my life is in many ways a work in progress. I have a neat job that doesn't pay enough, but it helps me work toward my career. My car is a piece but the mileage is great, I'm no pornstar, and I don't have the time to hit the gym as much as I would like.

All our issues boil down to things that are wrong with US! Stop believing women have such power and influence over your life, and accept that there are things you need to change in your life.

I would love to see us, as "mature men," discuss the real issues in life. Work not meeting the expectations you thought it would. Life goals turn out to be more challenging than you thought they were. You hit a wall in your workout. You realize your lifestyle is no longer giving you joy. In short, the real issues. When you fix those, all the women problems fall into place. Let's focus on the issues that plague real men.

 

[Jitterbug]

How dare men on a forum about women issues discuss.... women issues!!!!????

You gonna go to a bodybuilding forum next and complain about guys having issues with losing bodyfat?

 

[( . )( . )]

Let's focus on the issues that plague real men.

I'll start.

* Men constantly portrayed as incompetent,goofy douchebags by mainstream media, can't do anything right without the firm mature hand of a woman.

* No reproductive rights. A woman can do whatever she wishes with a child, it's her body her choice, not so when it comes to men, he is to "man up" and pay regardless or feel the wrath of the state and society or else be shamed "deadbeat dad".

* Next to no parental rights.

* Gender biased legal system.

* Male suicide 4 times more likely than female and rising every year.

* The "disposable male" phenomenon (women and children first) that is still indoctrinated into young boys but without any rewards of the past.

* Highest non interest education dropout rate for boys ever seen, courtesy of a fem-centric education system (a for women by women learning curriculum in other words)

* An over abundance of emasculated and clueless enablers with quite literally half the testosterone levels of their forefathers.

* Men's achievements and sacrifices throughout history continually downplayed, especially the sacrifice of literally millions of men's lives during wars of the past and present.

 

[GotED?]

I think that women themselves are finding a rollercoaster ride of 'Loss of Identity' as a woman and the role of a woman in the past 60 years and it will get worse. Hence, the divorce rate (or race) is crippling in any society worldwide - until women figure out that they have a Vag, Boobs, and Womb for a fookin' good reason; that is, to be a WOMAN. Get them to put the WO- back in -MAN.

Men are not just hurting, women are getting it worse I believe - they do it unto themselves by testosteroning up, we just get the flashburn of their poorly acted masculinity and feminism.

Look for a REAL woman, feminine and knows her place with a man - then you have found the true meaning of companionship and happiness.

with respect,

Exodus

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Royal Flush,
"Women don't fall into place anymore, hence the existence of this forum.".....That really does say it all,doesn't it?

 

[Cremasta]

I can't understand why so many guys on here are having woman issues. I see so many guys here and in the world talk a big game of having good jobs, money, bulging muscles, interesting lives, sleek cars, and 10 pound c*cks, and I can't help but wonder why the hell you are having women problems?

Bingo! This is the reason why a lot of guys came here in the first place. They've got everything else sorted, but still can't connect with women in the way they'd like.

I wouldn't mind hearing how you managed to get everything to just "fall into place".

 

[Burroughs]

I'll start.

* Men constantly portrayed as incompetent,goofy douchebags by mainstream media, can't do anything right without the firm mature hand of a woman.

* No reproductive rights. A woman can do whatever she wishes with a child, it's her body her choice, not so when it comes to men, he is to "man up" and pay regardless or feel the wrath of the state and society or else be shamed "deadbeat dad".

* Next to no parental rights.

* Gender biased legal system.

* Male suicide 4 times more likely than female and rising every year.

* The "disposable male" phenomenon (women and children first) that is still indoctrinated into young boys but without any rewards of the past.

* Highest non interest education dropout rate for boys ever seen, courtesy of a fem-centric education system (a for women by women learning curriculum in other words)

* An over abundance of emasculated and clueless enablers with quite literally half the testosterone levels of their forefathers.

* Men's achievements and sacrifices throughout history continually downplayed, especially the sacrifice of literally millions of men's lives during wars of the past and present.

well said.

the pendulum will swing back to women becoming property of men in the near future...as economies dissolve and currencies become useless suitable only as kindling for fire men will once more have to roll up their sleeves, smash their x boxes (they'll be no power for them lol) and get back to the work of civilization building...or in this case re-building....there will be no room for narcissistic wasteful feminism in this new reality...women have to submit once more to the rule of men lest they be left in the cold at the mercy of starvation or the rape gangs.

women given too much freedom become slothful and arrogant unable to nurture families or raise children...they become life long cvm dumpsters fit only to be communal prostitutes...all civilizations have known this since the dawn of time...only western civilization has forgotten this truth to our peril.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

Lifeislearning--

This forum is specifically a place where people come who are struggling, or those who have 'overcome' to share what they have learned. There are a variety of schools of thought that people prescribe to in order to 'improve'. If you went to a religious forum, or a car-forum and wondered why god or corvettes were being discussed, people would probably wonder why you came here in the first place. SS is filled with some people who just experienced heart-break, some who thought things were 'all good' and it crashed and burned, and others who have overcome their hurdles and are successful in ways they once weren't.

All people have battles. Everyone here has some other struggle they are facing. Man, I could rant about the lack of satisfaction and $ in my current business...I could vent about the hurdles that hold back some of my dreams...these are Bigger Fish that I am working on trying to evaluate, understand and act upon. The general consensus from older successful males I've met (in healthy relationships) is exactly what you are describing -- take care of your personal empire (your body, mind, finances, and driving towards what means something to you) and probably a lot else will fall into place. Being broke as a joke and trying to use DJ tacts to get some bish back to Mom's crib while she's out working probably isn't really what people here are seeking. At some point, if your CORE being is not solid, doesn't matter how much tang you're going through or what tricks are up your sleeves...you're still left unempowered.

People are mostly here to improve, vent or gain perspective. That's why it's a woman forum for self-help. Everyone here certainly has many other struggles and aspects.

I do agree that we have to truly look at OURSELVES and not blame the outside world. I also agree the sooner we take a mindset that its not US vs THEM, that there are tons of awesome amazing babes in the world, this is when we start to break more free. Reading this place (where people come to vent) you'd think every woman was a cvm guzzling wh0re, but not the case, it's important to know many whom are in great relationships (a) don't come to a place like this, and (b) are with women who likely aren't evil. So you're sort of steeped here in a place where there is a lot of pain and suffering and confusion. Some here have seen the light and grasp it. Others are working towards that and this is the void where they discuss and vent in anonymity.

 

[Mike32ct]

Most "single" women today aren't even really looking for a guy. She's happy (or at least content / not unhappy) getting stuffed and plenty of attention from the existing guys in her social circle. She's not taking applications from any new guys unless the guy is exceptionally good at making her panties soaked. Nobody else need apply.

That's why I laugh when they say there are soo many "single" women out there. "Single" means available on paper, but secretly "taken." Yeah the car is still on the dealership lot (without a "sold" sticker), but somebody already placed a deposit on it (or in it lol).

 

[Burroughs]

Most "single" women today aren't even really looking for a guy. She's happy getting stuffed and plenty of attention from the existing guys in her social circle. She's not taking applications from any new guys unless the guy is exceptionally good at making her panties soaked. Nobody else need apply.

That's why I laugh when they say there are soo many "single" women out there. "Single" means available on paper, but secretly "taken." Yeah the car is still on the dealership lot (without a "sold" sticker), but somebody already put a deposit on it (or in it lol).

Bingo you hit the nail on the head...hahah deposit in it

For any HB age 20-28 its ALL ABOUT SOCIAL CIRCLE

any nondruggie, non psycho hottie has a crew that she runs with and 99% of her fvcking occurs within that crew....you can get in if you're a co-worker friend of a friend...but if you want to displace a dude she is fvcking and you are new to the crew you better bring something significant.....status, money, looks...otherwise the hb hottie will be safely in her crew comfort zone fvcking the lineup so to speak.......this is the point that often gets lost...only hotties with serious issues don't have 3-5 guys on rotation...slvtification is the norm...only frigid indian girls and med student chicks roll solo and most of these chicks are psycho.

if you are on the outside without a crew you have an uphill climb.

For me its the indie rock scene...i've been in it for 9 years I know everyone. But even then its hard because everyone knows everyone else's business.

 

[backbreaker]

I've said this at least 100 times, yet no one seems to give a ****. Maybe I'm right maybe I'm wrong I don't know but I what has worked for me.

The thing about women an d dating.. it's kinda like swimming in the sense that, if you have to think about your swim stroke you are probably doing it wrong.

I mean, half the people here make women out to be **** they aren't, either good or bad. Women aren't goddesses nor are they all *** dumpsters. All aren't sluts, and all aren't feminist.

I think most of the problems that most guys here honestly have, are problems that themselves are creating by becoming acutely aware of every last thing.

I mean, when you first typed in i want to get laid and found this forum, you didn't know what the fvck the difference was between alpha and beta male, you didn't know what DJ or C/F meant, you didn't know what HB stood for and you didn't have the slightest clue what the schedule of mating meant. You weren't' getting laid, and you wanted to get laid. pretty cut and dry. Or if you were like me, you wanted a particular girl and wanted to figure out how to get her.

and along the way start picking up new ****. When you start to have a clue about body language now you are worried about rather you are projecting the correct body language when as before you didn't give a damn either way. Now it's a concern. When you came here, **** you just wanted to get laid. you didn't know you had to go cold approaching girls to do it lol. You don't know **** about cold approaching. And even if you do know **** about it, now you have the internal debate of does it work or not. Before you got here you saw the cute girl at Starbucks and you wish you had the nerve to talk to her. Now you ask yourself is day game even worth it? half the guys on sosuave don't think it isn't, but what if it is? so you have internally taking something quite straight forward; talking to the cute 21 year old at starbucks or not, into this huge internal mental masturbation issue.


another factor is the type of people that this site draws; i me
e to go online and ask for help on how to get laid, and these people by nature are over analytical.


so you have a site full of guys who like information, information is good, and they see all this information and want to digest it, but the more they digest, the more self aware they are the less likely they are to actually take any action at all.


If this were my forum, and it's not, but if it were, I would do 2 things.

1. i would not let anyone start a new thread about anything until they have cold approached 100 women. and provided a detailed report about each cold approach. There are some things you just can't convey on the internet that you have to get out there and see, then those guys who would be scared ****less of cold approaching anyone is telling guys who to do a good approach or even worse, telling guys that all day game is worthless

2. I would start a new sub forum and every poster would have their own thread where every month they set new goals, not just women... reading books, learning to cook ****, working out, wahtever. they set goals and once a week they had to login and report how they are doing wtih the goals. and if you did not keep it updated you were not allowed to post anywhere else on the forum.


see, number 2 would cure 80% of the issues that most guys here are having with women by itself. it would make the advice given much more accurate and give off a more action oriented vibe to the site.


I mean, I have some things working for me personally; just to put it out there i'm in the top 1% of income earners, i'm not a bad looking guy at all in fact i think i'm quite handsome lol, i'm funny when i want to be, i'm pretty intelligent, i am a hard worker, and something that i think gets overlooked, i'm unique enough of a person where people are interested in getting to know me.

however, i got **** that works against me just like everyone else does. I'm black and I haven't dated a black girl in almost a decade. damn lol. Alot of women don't approve of how I make a living (while I own a web development company, about 70% of my income comes from gambling), i don't have the biggest d!ck on earth; if a woman is expecting some ron jermey **** she is with the wrong dude lol. I have a high pitched voice, i'm only 5'8, and i work from home meaning i don't get to get out like normal people to do meet people / women regularly. I mean i get out but i have to make an effort to do so. And I lothe social media; refuse to use any of it. So some women, e ven when i was single thought that was 'creepy'. And if i get past that, and a woman gets to know me, she will learn that i am a recovered/recovering drug addict. That's not something that particuarly sites well with some. Can't say I blame them honestly but it is what it is.

I say all that to say, there has not been a time since i have been what, 22 years old that ***** has not been a phone call away. not once. **** more times than not i had choices. If you would spend, half the time you spend dicseting every debate about women, in the gym on the bench press, or half the time you spent *****ing about hypergamy, going to the mall and trying out new outfits to see what looks good on you and what doesn't reading a classic novel like Ulysses or something, or doing something uniquely interesting just for you, you you will have women beatin down the freaking doors to find you. I promise you. Do you understand how much more of an interesting person you become when you actually do and experience ****? very much more. The more interesting you are the more likely you are to make the gina tingle.

I mean, managing them, entertaining them, sexing them, dating them, marrying them that's one thing. I get that. but just getting them to LOOK at you? that **** is extremely easy. and the fact that so many guys can't get DATES is mindboggling to me. even in my most AFC days i could get dates. even get laid from time to time. i just had this deal where every woman eventually became the love of my life and they ran the other way lol.

You got guys talking about man the only way a woman will date you is if she knows you in your social circle. on an avg month, and mind you i live in LA, i would say I get approached/looked at hard /invited to approach about 5-6 times by HB acceptable women.

the fact that you have to put this much thought to get a woman to notice you or to have interest at all in you, in itself you are going the wrong way. for the game to work, you have to give a woman something she wants. you have to become something that women want to see, women want to get to know, maybe beucase you are so clean cut, maybe beucase you are ripped, whatever. u just can't sit around and rip women all day long and come up with new theoryss on why women do this and do that and then just expect women to just knock on your door and throw panties at you.

lol the late robbin harris had this joke in his stand up (very underrated comedian BTW, teh bebe's kids dude), black people looking for jobs, like they just sit there and wait for a job to knock on the door "knock knock knock"

"who is it"

"job"

but that's what a lot of guys here do.

 

[zekko]

however, i got **** that works against me just like everyone else does. I'm black and I haven't dated a black girl in almost a decade

Most girls I know find black men attractive. They have the exotic thing going for them.

I say all that to say, there has not been a time since i have been what, 22 years old that ***** has not been a phone call away. not once. **** more times than not i had choices. If you would spend, half the time you spend dicseting every debate about women, in the gym on the bench press, or half the time you spent *****ing about hypergamy, going to the mall and trying out new outfits to see what looks good on you and what doesn't reading a classic novel like Ulysses or something, or doing something uniquely interesting just for you, you you will have women beatin down the freaking doors to find you.

Let's be real, reading James Joyce is not going to have women beating down your door. If that were true, he'd be a very, very popular author.

Also, I've been doing weight lifting and cardio for nearly 30 years and I've never noticed any difference it has made in the way women responded to me. I was very fit before I started however, from playing sports and whatnot, maybe that has something to do with it. It's not like I went from a fat slob to being buff. Things got better for me over time (with girls), but it's a culmination of a number of things, not just one.

on an avg month, and mind you i live in LA, i would say I get approached/looked at hard /invited to approach about 5-6 times by HB acceptable women.

I was looked at hard by at least six HB acceptable women this afternoon. Two smiled at me, three actually did double takes (looked, looked away, and looked back)! One who was staring a hole in me looked like my ex-wife lol. Girls don't approach me though. And I have a girlfriend so I didn't approach them. Other days I will go out and no one will look at me, I don't know what the difference is.

 

[backbreaker]

Most girls I know find black men attractive. They have the exotic thing going for them.

I'll give you that.

Let's be real, reading James Joyce is not going to have women beating down your door. If that were true, he'd be a very, very popular author.

you miss the point

not to sound like a direct TV commercial but

when you do new things, you get new ideas

when you get new ideas, you try out new ideas

when you try out new ideas, you develop new and interesting passions and hobbies

when you develop new and interesting passions and hobbies, you become more interesting because you have a boader array of things to talk about that you have experienced


and when you have broader array of things to talk about that you have experienced, she sees you as interesting, different and exciting

and when she sees you as interesting,different and exiting, the gina tingles. we want the gina to tingle.

like, take my saltwater fish tank hobby. i don't look like the type of guy that loves salt water fish but i do. the biggest fight my wife and I got in all year is when she tried to feed my tank one day and put too much food in there and i had to spend a week and about 75 dollars buying peppermint shrimp trying to get rid of algae that was able to grow beucase of all the access food in the tank. i was pretty pissed. and i never would have even considered it had i not went to the matinee county aquarium when i lived in Sarasota on a day I had absolutely nothing to do. I wasn't raise by fish loving people, the biggest fish I had ever had was the ****ty goldfish every kid gets and kills beucase he has no idea what he's doing lol. And you walk into my house and bam it's 2 of them right there and it's an attention grabber, and it's not an amature setup like oh i have 2 little fish no i have a big boy tank lol. it makes a woman go "humm.. more to him than I thought.. wonder what else about him i don't know"

that's what keeps em coming back. you walk in 9 dudes houses and all of them have the ****ty ass generic furniture with 1-2 books laying around and a TV and a ps3 hooked up and maybe a DVD player, and your house may be clean but if you don't have a unique personality, or it's just another house that the girl is going over to kill time.

to me the most important thing a guy can do to make women's gina tingle, si to do new ****. the more new **** you can do the more interesting youa re the easier it is to attract women.

i don't attract women beucase i'm good looking and i am,... you know what.. i;lll take it furthe rthan that,. i don't attract women i attract people period. i'm interesting. people like knowing me. i can take you to the horse track or to a the la brea tar pits and be just as comfortable either place. my hobbies, the music i listen to, what i do for a living, what i like what i don't like, are all ME to a T. I'm unique. and the more things I do the more things I try, and **** not even just for women, my wife doesn't give a **** if i try anything exiting and new, but i'm growing as a person. '


you physically attract women to you. you KEEP them attracted by giving them a reason to keep coming back. Not beucase you are spending money on her or you touched her just right, but because.. this guy is very different, humm...

i just don't see how guys don't get this. to me it's common sense. spend half the time you spend *****ing becoming a better more unique version of you. figure out who YOU are. not what you think i women want you to be but who you are what you enjoy, try new ****.

 

[backbreaker]

Most girls I know find black men attractive. They have the exotic thing going for them.

I'll give you that. I"ve even said I don't know why most black guys think it's so hard. **** I wouldn't' have it any other way. My wife told me point blank on our first date she thought iw as cute but she had never went on a date with a black guy before and wanted to see what it would be like.

Let's be real, reading James Joyce is not going to have women beating down your door. If that were true, he'd be a very, very popular author.

you miss the point

not to sound like a direct TV commercial but

when you do new things, you get new ideas

when you get new ideas, you try out new ideas

when you try out new ideas, you develop new and interesting passions and hobbies

when you develop new and interesting passions and hobbies, you become more interesting because you have a boader array of things to talk about that you have experienced


and when you have broader array of things to talk about that you have experienced, she sees you as interesting, different and exciting

and when she sees you as interesting,different and exiting, the gina tingles. we want the gina to tingle.

like, take my saltwater fish tank hobby. i don't look like the type of guy that loves salt water fish but i do. and i never would have even considered it had i not went to the matinee county aquarium when i lived in Sarasota on a day I had absolutely nothing to do. I wasn't raise by fish loving people, the biggest fish I had ever had was the ****ty goldfish every kid gets and kills beucase he has no idea what he's doing lol. And you walk into my house and bam it's 2 of them right there and it's an attention grabber, and it's not an amature setup like oh i have 2 little fish no i have a big boy tank lol. it makes a woman go "humm.. more to him than I thought.. wonder what else about him i don't know"

that's what keeps em coming back. you walk in 9 dudes houses and all of them have the ****ty ass generic furniture with 1-2 books laying around and a TV and a ps3 hooked up and maybe a DVD player, and your house may be clean but if you don't have a unique personality, or it's just another house that the girl is going over to kill time.

to me the most important thing a guy can do to make women's gina tingle, si to do new ****. the more new **** you can do the more interesting youa re the easier it is to attract women.

i don't attract women beucase i'm good looking and i am,... you know what.. i;lll take it further than that,. i don't attract women i attract people period. i'm interesting. people like knowing me. i can take you to the horse track or to a the la brea tar pits and be just as comfortable either place. my hobbies, the music i listen to, what i do for a living, what i like what i don't like, are all ME to a T. I'm unique. and the more things I do the more things I try, and **** not even just for women, my wife doesn't give a **** if i try anything exiting and new, but i'm growing as a person. '


you physically attract women to you. you KEEP them attracted by giving them a reason to keep coming back. Not beucase you are spending money on her or you touched her just right, but because.. this guy is very different, humm...

i just don't see how guys don't get this. to me it's common sense. spend half the time you spend *****ing becoming a better more unique version of you. figure out who YOU are. not what you think i women want you to be but who you are what you enjoy, try new ****.

I mean, there isn't anything really interesting about 80% of the guys here. you work a job you don't like most likely, you can't talk about anything in depth beucase you don't read **** so you can't form your own opinion about anything really rather it's a book or a political platform, you don't have any interesting hobbies, you probably buy your clothes off the rack or whatever the chick at xpress tells you is cute on you, and you think beucase you are a man with a **** that women should just be flocking to you for no other reason than you are a dude and youaren't fat/out of shape.

that, is why women aren't interested in dating you. Because you aren't interesting.

 

[silvioman]

Hi, I'm from Portugal.

I would like to comment something:

every woman is different personality. they are not all the "same" profile.
women are very very influenced (programmed) by television shows and tv series.
the novels, and «big brother» programs, are influencing.
women watch on television pretty guys with muscles, and they want a husband like these ones.
women watch on the tv novels, some bad wives cheating on husbands, and they think its "funny" and «normal in society».
and they start doing the same.

women are very influenced by her woman friends too.
If a friend cheat her husband, it seems «normal» and the other friends will cheat too

 

[Mike32ct]

when you develop new and interesting passions and hobbies, you become more interesting because you have a boader array of things to talk about that you have experienced

and when you have broader array of things to talk about that you have experienced, she sees you as interesting, different and exciting

and when she sees you as interesting,different and exiting, the gina tingles. we want the gina to tingle.

to me the most important thing a guy can do to make women's gina tingle, si to do new ****. the more new **** you can do the more interesting youa re the easier it is to attract women.

that, is why women aren't interested in dating you. Because you aren't interesting.

Good eye opener. I have been thinking about this a lot lately. Over time, I got too cynical and assumed it was all about looks (and social circles) and neglected the "hobbies" portion of my life. I still think those things are important, but hobbies definitely give you things to talk about and make you interesting.

I started a ballroom dance class recently.

 

[Atom Smasher]

My goodness, I tried to read through this thread but couldn't even keep focused. It's not all that complicated.

OP, forums like this exist because men have grown up severely damaged by their feminized education, and also I would bet dollars to donuts that most of us did not have a male role model while growing up to teach and balance us.

A strong male role model who displays integrity virtually guarantees a boy's successfull (ie, well-balanced) graduation into manhood.

So OP, while all your tips and advice in your thread are very good, you need to remember that men come here for rehabilitation. They are in need of the help and guidance that was denied them while growing up. Expecting them to understand your advice and tips right off the bat is like expecting a grammar school student to understand theoretical physics.

The lack of male mentors in our society, plus that lack of a formal rite of passage into manhood, are largely what necessitate sites like this. I consider SS a sort of hospital.

 

[Colossus]

I'm in agreement with Backbreaker these days....I think too many guys over-think everything with women!!!

The problem with a place like this---while a great resource and a popular Pro-Male haven---is that it becomes an echo chamber. The more time you spend here (or elsewhere in the manosphere) the more you start to see everything in this hyper-analytic, cynical light. You cant get out of your own damned way.

Guys that come here and stick around tend to be thinkers. And the problem with thinkers, with intelligent guys who need to know how everything works, is that they never do themselves any favors with women. Example: last night I was at the local pub and I observed a lot, as always. I noticed there are usually two types of guys at bars--the ones who tend to hang out with each other or their group, and the ones who are either dumb enough, drunk enough, or just ballsy enough to walk up to women and say sh!t. Women who go to bars dont necessarily want to get approached by douchebags, but they dont do it just to gaggle up with their girlfriends either. They are just as insecure (probably more so) as any quiet guy in the bar. If someone with even an ounce of charm just walks up to them and puts forth a little effort, they like it. Half the time they probably end up fvcking them. They just want to feel wanted.

The point of that anecdote is that while it's good to read and be introspective at times, don't over-think everything. I read these agonizingly complex and long diatribes here about why women are difficult and why the male-female balance is askew in society today....and while there is usually some truth to all of them, at the end of the day it amounts to academic masturbation. You arent doing yourself any favors by filling your head with this nonsense because you will convey your negative feelings and misgivings in your interactions with women. I know because I've been guilty of it for a long time.

Yes, there is a lot that is fvcked up about the way society views men collectively and they way we are treated in the family court system. But rallying on the internet only goes so far. Start being the men you want to be. Start choosing ONLY women who are truly feminine and believe in traditional gender roles. Women who have to be miss bossy pants about everything and believe that male leadership is antiquated can get left for guys who will tolerate that sh!t. It's not your problem.

 

[Mr.Positive]

What I think happens on internet forums, this one, and most all, is that folks tend to post problems and issues they have. If a person starts reading, and learning, and then base their whole view about women on just what they read, they just see the problems.

Same with feminism, etc. As men, we live in a time where we are perhaps the most free we have ever been. We can do whatever we want, whatever we choose.

For example, at 39 years old, I don't want to get married, and I don't want to have children. 40 or 50 years ago, that would seem very eccentric. The path to manhood back then was to get out of school, get a job, get married, white picket fence, kids, etc. Most women followed that path too. Yes, there was better wife material back then, but how many men felt trapped in lives that we predetermined for them?

In our times, we can do whatever we want. If you want a wife, you can find a woman that will fit, if you want to. If you want easy sex, lot's of loose women as well.

Tom Brown Jr said it best. In life, there is two types of people. Critics, and Doers. The critics will always sit back and criticize the people out doing things. The doers don't have time to be critics, because they are out doing whatever they choose to do.

 

[backbreaker]

LOL. I'm sorry but this makes zero sense. Have you heard the utter horse**** that most women talk about? Most of the people here are light years ahead of women in introspective ability and learning. The dumb jocks/meatheads/ models clean up with women. Maybe men need to pick up "hobbies" like listening to top40 music, watching sh1tcoms or dancing to relate to these empty headed "programmed" women like someone else said. The 1% of men that are super introverted and cannot carry a conversation line up nicely with the 1% of educated women who can talk about something besides their empty lives.

lol whoever said women made sense in the first place

The lack of male mentors in our society, plus that lack of a formal rite of passage into manhood, are largely what necessitate sites like this. I consider SS a sort of hospital.

sadly I agree. Most men, that I know for all intents and purposes fall into one of two catogories. You got, my dad for instance.. he has the women part of his life down to a T. but not **** else lol.


Then you have men, who, they have the other **** in their life down, like they have a good career and they work hard, but they are just, not interesting and have no clue with women

very few men have both. at leats men that I knew growing up.