What about ugly girls? These girls settle for the most hideous, vilest, crudest, and most disgusting men to get some. Most guys have this option to get laid just as easily, but (hopefully) we choose not to. Women are not always the gatekeepers to sex. Guys have some control also. If a female wants to let you in but you find her ugly, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ENTER!!!!!!!
Why the double standard
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MR_PERFECT
Senior Don Juan
I wouldn't hold it against a woman for sleeping with me on the first date. If she's done it before (which is very likely), I just need to feel secure in knowing she's just as attracted to me as any other guy in her past.
I can get over an occasional ONS here and there in the past, what I can't get over is a gang-bang. I also need to feel that she doesn't cling to every guy she sleeps with because she's afraid to be alone.
Another thing I've noticed about women that sleep around vs. women in steady LTR. Women that sleep around, from what I've experienced, really take good care of their skin from head to toe. On the hand, they usually aren't as good in bed as the LTR women.
I can get over an occasional ONS here and there in the past, what I can't get over is a gang-bang. I also need to feel that she doesn't cling to every guy she sleeps with because she's afraid to be alone.
Another thing I've noticed about women that sleep around vs. women in steady LTR. Women that sleep around, from what I've experienced, really take good care of their skin from head to toe. On the hand, they usually aren't as good in bed as the LTR women.
( . )( . )
Banned
what a stupid post, for starters not all guys have double standards, dont include me and alot of other dudes in that imature style of thinking.
i have 10 times more respect for chicks who know what they want and goes for it, and does'nt let society (mainly people with your type of attitudes) determine how long they should make the chump wait and jump through hoops to get some pu$$y.
its just pu$$y fella , it aint a shareholders right to a goldmine.
WRONG, they are the gatekeepers of sex to AFCs.
WRONG, only clueless idiots would think something this ridiculous. you think that chick who made you wait a couple of days is more worthy?.......pffft wake up and smell the come spattered on her face fool.
funny, i always thought that chicks who are keen for c@ck are WAY more feminine than ANY other kind.
a masculine trait, to want c@ck and forego games.... what fantasy land is this?
slutty girls wtf.
i have 10 times more respect for chicks who know what they want and goes for it, and does'nt let society (mainly people with your type of attitudes) determine how long they should make the chump wait and jump through hoops to get some pu$$y.
its just pu$$y fella , it aint a shareholders right to a goldmine.
dont pass off bullsh!t thinking as every other guys way of thinking.
tiburon
Banned
hats off to ( . )( . )
Man every time thsi guy puts a post down ....seems to be on the money!
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex, sorry if it is unfair but that is simply how it is.
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WRONG, they are the gatekeepers of sex to AFCs.
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Man women decide, yes this is true, but realize if dealing with an AFC this decision making becomes just as you mentioned a gatekeeper of sex. A DJ keeps her coming and every time he goes for sex he is succesful(unless sickness)! Why? Easy the ball is always in his side of the court and maybe he got turn down once by the called "Gatekeeper" but that was the first and last time as he told at the moment, that he doesnt play games, and that to get herself together because he can find sex anywhere else and is not going to be manipulated by a womaman who thinks a vagina is a leech on a MAN! When a women sees this reaction from a man ...she doesnt play games,(because if she does she knows the guy is going to fly away ) she is not a gatekeeper but a sexual partner, and her decisions , well lets say if she decides to not have sex in a controlling way, well then OUR DJ goes and get another girl who wont control him this way, so pretty much her decision is controlled by the interest on the DJ! This shows differences between DJS and AFCS!
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Only men will make the comment if I can get into her pants that easily she is not worthy of a long term relationship.
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WRONG, only clueless idiots would think something this ridiculous. you think that chick who made you wait a couple of days is more worthy?.......pffft wake up and smell the come spattered on her face fool."
Ok so girls that give it on the first night in a way you should thank them! ATLEATS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH!
But the fact she doesnt give it that easy..doesnt make her wife material either! She could just be using this for you in particular, because she know thsi will get you!THEY ARE VERY SMART! I agree with ( . )( . ) in that its idiotic to think that just this makes them worthier! if a women is not a virgin I would recommend you evaluate her from the outside. See how she handles herself, see how she reacts to MEN who flirt with her, see what she does when she is single, see what she does when in a relationship, etc....this will gave you a better indicator of worthiness! How you evaluate from the outside, well you can be a co worker, you can be a friend ( not a very close firend but someone she knows and sees that is not interested in her because you have a GF)., or anything that can get you to evaluate without suspicions! A virgin can be a slutt by nature so dont assume because she was a virgin that she is already a decent women either!( She might have potential.. ...lol ...i seen this case many times!!!)
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For me personally it actually has nothing to do with morals, it has more to do with feminity. I do not find that it is feminine for a woman to sleep around.
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funny, i always thought that chicks who are keen for c@ck are WAY more feminine than ANY other kind.
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OFcourse this is funny...to be feminine has nothing to do with sleeping around! A woman who doesnt sleep around has great control to hold her desires but she is still hungry for c@ck !You might not finded feminine but i guess you dont know what feminine is ! Actually the more feminine a woman the more sex she WANTS!
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Guys if you like slutty girls go get em, I do as well, but don't complain when she screws your best friend before the wedding.
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slutty girls wtf.
i have 10 times more respect for chicks who know what they want and goes for it, and does'nt let society (mainly people with your type of attitudes) determine how long they should make the chump wait and jump through hoops to get some pu$$y.
its just pu$$y fella , it aint a shareholders right to a goldmine."
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Man i have to say ..that that your indicator for worthiness ...can get you a girl that screws with your best friend ..(i dont know what kind of friends you have ..lol) as much as the guy that marries the girl that slept with him on the first night! Now here is were i disagree with ( . ) ( . )....i hold respect for this type of women that ( .)( . ) refers to , but i dont think that women who holds it to marriage because religion, societies view should be hold any less respects towards. I think that it shows some control...but even though it wouldnt be ideal! I hold the most respect for the women who gives her flower under love, everytime, she can only have sex with someone she loves and loves her back!( they are outhere...believe me!..hard to find tough!) I hold even more respect for the women who holds it for the man of her dreams ...a woman who cleanly believes in love and knows she wants to love only one man for her entire life. Maybe sounds stupid now and days with the way everyday life is , maybe sounds like a fantasy, maybe it sounds like Tiburon is a kid that believes women to be angels ! Well i dont believe in women to be angels, and i think is difficult to find this woman now and days, but i seen it happen before in other generations, and i believe there might be a few women that can still Dream!
Tiburon
Man every time thsi guy puts a post down ....seems to be on the money!
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex, sorry if it is unfair but that is simply how it is.
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WRONG, they are the gatekeepers of sex to AFCs.
quote:"
Man women decide, yes this is true, but realize if dealing with an AFC this decision making becomes just as you mentioned a gatekeeper of sex. A DJ keeps her coming and every time he goes for sex he is succesful(unless sickness)! Why? Easy the ball is always in his side of the court and maybe he got turn down once by the called "Gatekeeper" but that was the first and last time as he told at the moment, that he doesnt play games, and that to get herself together because he can find sex anywhere else and is not going to be manipulated by a womaman who thinks a vagina is a leech on a MAN! When a women sees this reaction from a man ...she doesnt play games,(because if she does she knows the guy is going to fly away ) she is not a gatekeeper but a sexual partner, and her decisions , well lets say if she decides to not have sex in a controlling way, well then OUR DJ goes and get another girl who wont control him this way, so pretty much her decision is controlled by the interest on the DJ! This shows differences between DJS and AFCS!
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Only men will make the comment if I can get into her pants that easily she is not worthy of a long term relationship.
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WRONG, only clueless idiots would think something this ridiculous. you think that chick who made you wait a couple of days is more worthy?.......pffft wake up and smell the come spattered on her face fool."
Ok so girls that give it on the first night in a way you should thank them! ATLEATS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH!
But the fact she doesnt give it that easy..doesnt make her wife material either! She could just be using this for you in particular, because she know thsi will get you!THEY ARE VERY SMART! I agree with ( . )( . ) in that its idiotic to think that just this makes them worthier! if a women is not a virgin I would recommend you evaluate her from the outside. See how she handles herself, see how she reacts to MEN who flirt with her, see what she does when she is single, see what she does when in a relationship, etc....this will gave you a better indicator of worthiness! How you evaluate from the outside, well you can be a co worker, you can be a friend ( not a very close firend but someone she knows and sees that is not interested in her because you have a GF)., or anything that can get you to evaluate without suspicions! A virgin can be a slutt by nature so dont assume because she was a virgin that she is already a decent women either!( She might have potential.. ...lol ...i seen this case many times!!!)
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For me personally it actually has nothing to do with morals, it has more to do with feminity. I do not find that it is feminine for a woman to sleep around.
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funny, i always thought that chicks who are keen for c@ck are WAY more feminine than ANY other kind.
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OFcourse this is funny...to be feminine has nothing to do with sleeping around! A woman who doesnt sleep around has great control to hold her desires but she is still hungry for c@ck !You might not finded feminine but i guess you dont know what feminine is ! Actually the more feminine a woman the more sex she WANTS!
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Guys if you like slutty girls go get em, I do as well, but don't complain when she screws your best friend before the wedding.
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slutty girls wtf.
i have 10 times more respect for chicks who know what they want and goes for it, and does'nt let society (mainly people with your type of attitudes) determine how long they should make the chump wait and jump through hoops to get some pu$$y.
its just pu$$y fella , it aint a shareholders right to a goldmine."
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Man i have to say ..that that your indicator for worthiness ...can get you a girl that screws with your best friend ..(i dont know what kind of friends you have ..lol) as much as the guy that marries the girl that slept with him on the first night! Now here is were i disagree with ( . ) ( . )....i hold respect for this type of women that ( .)( . ) refers to , but i dont think that women who holds it to marriage because religion, societies view should be hold any less respects towards. I think that it shows some control...but even though it wouldnt be ideal! I hold the most respect for the women who gives her flower under love, everytime, she can only have sex with someone she loves and loves her back!( they are outhere...believe me!..hard to find tough!) I hold even more respect for the women who holds it for the man of her dreams ...a woman who cleanly believes in love and knows she wants to love only one man for her entire life. Maybe sounds stupid now and days with the way everyday life is , maybe sounds like a fantasy, maybe it sounds like Tiburon is a kid that believes women to be angels ! Well i dont believe in women to be angels, and i think is difficult to find this woman now and days, but i seen it happen before in other generations, and i believe there might be a few women that can still Dream!
Tiburon
tiburon
Banned
STR8
Deffinitely agree that some men believe what a woman tells them becaus of a need to believe this becasue it makes them happy and makes them feel better! THIS IS VERY STUPID AND AFC TO DO ! And women could have as much sex as men do ...very true ...in fact i believ they like it more!
Tiburon
Deffinitely agree that some men believe what a woman tells them becaus of a need to believe this becasue it makes them happy and makes them feel better! THIS IS VERY STUPID AND AFC TO DO ! And women could have as much sex as men do ...very true ...in fact i believ they like it more!
Yeah but there are women who like the idea of having lots of sex and crazy sex with just one love! I believe is easy getting blinded but you have to admit the fact women like sex as much as men doesnt mean all women want to go fvcking a different guy every day!
Tiburon
MysteryWoman
Master Don Juan
It's so sad sosuave has come to this, there are more and more angry DJ's coming through. I use to think that Jake Steed was the most obnoxious guy on this forum, but he was an angel compare to a few guys (won't mention names) he never preached this double standard. The same goes for Sir Chancealot.
There use to be very successful DJs who use to write regularly on this site Jake Steed, Power Trip, Sex PDX and a few others. They wrote a great posts and I found them to be potential threats to beating us women at our game. There are hardley any ever great articles by Allen Thompson anymore, maybe he is running out of ideas or is getting fed up with a few angry DJ's who are attacking everyone's posts and are dominating the threads.
No, there are hardley any guys who I think of that are really successful with women, the amount of virgins on here speaks volumes.
As for the guys who ruthlessly dump girls who put out to soon, yet have the intention of sleeping around with as many girls as possible, and then expect a virgin bride. And then have the arrogance to complain that there are so many sluts around, there karma will come back to them one day (probably three times as hard ) when they least expect it.
Guys you should be glad that there is so much free psychological advice here, the way things are going I can' see sosuave lasting another three years. So are you going to let us girl win? or are you going do something about it?
Thats all I have to say.
There use to be very successful DJs who use to write regularly on this site Jake Steed, Power Trip, Sex PDX and a few others. They wrote a great posts and I found them to be potential threats to beating us women at our game. There are hardley any ever great articles by Allen Thompson anymore, maybe he is running out of ideas or is getting fed up with a few angry DJ's who are attacking everyone's posts and are dominating the threads.
No, there are hardley any guys who I think of that are really successful with women, the amount of virgins on here speaks volumes.
As for the guys who ruthlessly dump girls who put out to soon, yet have the intention of sleeping around with as many girls as possible, and then expect a virgin bride. And then have the arrogance to complain that there are so many sluts around, there karma will come back to them one day (probably three times as hard ) when they least expect it.
Guys you should be glad that there is so much free psychological advice here, the way things are going I can' see sosuave lasting another three years. So are you going to let us girl win? or are you going do something about it?
Thats all I have to say.
ShortyBrown
Master Don Juan
It's there. It's ingrained in the beilefs of a lot of people. It ain't gonna change. Sad, but true.
I have to respectfully disagree Mystery Bytch.
Sure there are a lot of crappy posters these days, but this is due to the sheer volume of budding DJs swho have registered here. Yes we get some clueless assh0les but there is still inspiration to be found here. Look at Brazilian Blues Boy, Vassago, Mr. Fingers, xxblitz44, Walden(I could go on and on) these guys represent a new generation of SoSuavers and probably the main reason Allen doesnt post anymore is because these players are representing the vibe quite nicely. I guess this is the classic "glass is half full/empty" argument, but you get what I am sayin right?
I do agree that there is a lot of agression and rage happening on this board lately. I think we should have a section of the forum entitled "Angry Rants" so we can weed out the anger from the wisdom...hmmm think I will be visitin the Suggestions Forum next.
Oh and dont let these guys discourage you. Some of us do value your input here!
Sure there are a lot of crappy posters these days, but this is due to the sheer volume of budding DJs swho have registered here. Yes we get some clueless assh0les but there is still inspiration to be found here. Look at Brazilian Blues Boy, Vassago, Mr. Fingers, xxblitz44, Walden(I could go on and on) these guys represent a new generation of SoSuavers and probably the main reason Allen doesnt post anymore is because these players are representing the vibe quite nicely. I guess this is the classic "glass is half full/empty" argument, but you get what I am sayin right?
I do agree that there is a lot of agression and rage happening on this board lately. I think we should have a section of the forum entitled "Angry Rants" so we can weed out the anger from the wisdom...hmmm think I will be visitin the Suggestions Forum next.
Oh and dont let these guys discourage you. Some of us do value your input here!
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Adding my two cents for the AFC posing as DJs:
I can't remember if I had ever had a preference for virgins but I can say that if I did, I outgrew it VERY long ago. Experienced women rock!
As for women who 'sleep around,' who the fvck cares?!!! If you profess to be a DJ you sure as hell wouldn't. Why would you want to feel so insecure to know that she is more experienced than you?
The fact of the matter is that she is with you now and if you had your game on high, she would be trying her best not to get NEXTed by you. She'd be hanging onto your pole for dear life!
If the only way you guys can feel good about yourself is by building up your egos by putting other people down and attempting in vain for the elusive 'virgin,' you had better get use to being pissed off for the rest of your lives. Until you realize that taking it upon yourself to judge a person's merit only prevents you from realizing your own personal issues. You will always feel second class, you will always be angry for some bazaar reason, and you will always be a AFC.
Finally someone who truly understands what I am getting at.
You all make me laugh, you are being hypocritical in your own way. No I am not an angry guy, trust me on that. It is like alot of people here say to afc's, being a doormat won't get you women and you can disagree with that statement as much as you want it won't change the truth. You can disagree with the double standard as much as you want, it is still going to be there.
By the way, I see alot of accusations being thrown my way, I would like to see a particular quote by me where you see complaining. I am not complaining, simply stating a view society has.
Do you see anger in my posts, show me where.
Oh yeah one last shout,
oh please great gods of djdom, please don't call me an afc, oh what will I do now, I am no longer a dj as a bunch of people I don't know have taken to calling me an afc.
Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
I agree completely with everything said in this post. When I said I was unatrracted to girls that have sex alot, maybe I should have mentioned I am really unatrracted when the they looking for sex.
If women want to do that, fine. I personally like a girl to be a bit more challenging than to fall right away though.
Right again, as well after you get into a relationship the man becomes the one completely in power. But I am talking more in general. When I see even an attractive girl that will sleep with me right away I am pretty much turned off. I do get have a tendency to get fooled by wild girls(not to say slutty, have to be p.c. here)
that pretend they are not.
Matt ala Casanova
Master Don Juan
I really don't believe in the double standard rule anymore. I mean if a girl wants to have s3x, she can! In general guys have to truly try for it. Me personally, I don't have to. I'm at a stage where its simple and a big game for me. I always win.
I don't look at girls as s!uts or goody girls, they are all the same. 9 out of 10 times if the girl is attracted to you, it would be long before you could have s3x with her. It's just a matter of your skills and her attractive/IL towards you.
my 2 cents.
M.A.C.
I don't look at girls as s!uts or goody girls, they are all the same. 9 out of 10 times if the girl is attracted to you, it would be long before you could have s3x with her. It's just a matter of your skills and her attractive/IL towards you.
my 2 cents.
M.A.C.
But as your game improves don't you want to seduce women that make it more challenging for you?Originally posted by Matt ala Casanova
I really don't believe in the double standard rule anymore. I mean if a girl wants to have s3x, she can! In general guys have to truly try for it. Me personally, I don't have to. I'm at a stage where its simple and a big game for me. I always win.
I don't look at girls as s!uts or goody girls, they are all the same. 9 out of 10 times if the girl is attracted to you, it would be long before you could have s3x with her. It's just a matter of your skills and her attractive/IL towards you.
my 2 cents.
M.A.C.
Matt ala Casanova
Master Don Juan
Honestly.....I seduce women now. I mean I can always improve my game but I have what it takes now to walk into a room and either leave with a HB or atleast get her number.
M.A.C.
M.A.C.
Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Matt ala Casanova
Master Don Juan
Either way...its a game. After the initial meet & greet, the verbiage you use and the way you let off that confident persona, the rest is easy once you know what you want. If you want to pursue a relationship or a ONS, the choice is yours.
M.A.C.
M.A.C.
