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Why smart betas do better than alphas

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Solomon said:
Why is the community so obsessed with the whole ALPHA concept?
It's no mystery.
In nature, the alpha males get the first choice of women.
Guys think "Hmm, maybe I can become an alpha male and get more women".
A lot of pickup gurus teach how to become an alpha male, so the idea gets spread around more.

There have been studies that show that even mimicking the behaviors of alpha or dominant males can increase your attraction level. So it's no surprise you hear about it so much.
 

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I have no interest in responding to anything you wrote because after watching your videos - it's clear you are not well....


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BettorOffSingle's "love" website:
http://www.ilovelexiainsworth.com/

YouTube account:
http://www.youtube.com/BettorOffSingle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqvbHybNhgs&feature=channel_video_title
Bekowski, you would definitely not dare say anything to this macho man's face. Now stop trying to out-alpha the alpha!
If this guy can show me a certified psychological evaluation from a mental health professional saying that he's in good mental health - i'll buy every book he's ever published X10.

The following can indicate a delusion:

1. The patient expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence or force.
2. That idea appears to exert an undue influence on the patient's life, and the way of life is often altered to an inexplicable extent.
3. Despite his/her profound conviction, there is often a quality of secretiveness or suspicion when the patient is questioned about it.
4. The individual tends to be humorless and oversensitive, especially about the belief.
5. There is a quality of centrality: no matter how unlikely it is that these strange things are happening to him, the patient accepts them relatively unquestioningly.
6. An attempt to contradict the belief is likely to arouse an inappropriately strong emotional reaction, often with irritability and hostility.
7. The belief is, at the least, unlikely, and out of keeping with the patient's social, cultural and religious background.
8. The patient is emotionally over-invested in the idea and it overwhelms other elements of their psyche.
He exhibits both Erotomania (the belief someone else shared a relationship with him that never existed), Grandiose (the belief that he created things that others are taking credit for), & Persecutory (the belief he has been done wrong by society; aka - women get the jobs over him when he's "more qualified.")

Also note: The chance of being addicted to gambling (and denial of being addicted) is almost 10 TIMES higher in people who suffer from psychological disorders. That means only 1 in 10 compulsive gamblers will be in good mental health.

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And here i thought he was trolling or just pushing his products....

(i just downloaded his book just to see how much crazy madman talk is in the book - and got as far as page 13 before it became clear that he also has a lying problem.) In the Spring of 1985 - he was apparently posting in a style that happens to contain tons of modern day "PUA" lingo and forum post style (this would also means he saved these messages for 25 years).

Get evaluated!
 
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It really depends on the definition of alpha or beta males.....Slapping on a label and expecting someone to fit into that box is a little naive in my opinion.

My opinions of an alpha male is someone who is:

Adaptable
Confident
Interdependent
Stoic
Assertive
Discipline
Responsible

It seems like your definition of an alpha male is something like an arrogant, obnoxious ******* (which works) and gets women because of risk taking and treating them like shi't. I agree with you there. Behavior like that isn't sustainable.
 

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'Betas' better off than 'alphas' at getting women. Thats like saying a cyclist is better off than a car. Maybe in a traffic jammed street, but the statement still holds no weight.

Betas are losers. They are weaker men. They are more insecure, weaker, smaller, losers. That is the definition.

How about you guys give up the rationalisation and learn how to be real man instead. Now that is actually something you have control over, its not just in the genes.


I just read his website about that girl 'lexi ainsworth' and i have to say bukowski is correct. Good spot on this one, he is definitely psychologically imbalanced. Best wishes i have nothing but sympathy.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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Ease said:
'Betas' better off than 'alphas' at getting women. Thats like saying a cyclist is better off than a car. Maybe in a traffic jammed street, but the statement still holds no weight.

Betas are losers. They are weaker men. They are more insecure, weaker, smaller, losers. That is the definition.

How about you guys give up the rationalisation and learn how to be real man instead. Now that is actually something you have control over, its not just in the genes.


I just read his website about that girl 'lexi ainsworth' and i have to say bukowski is correct. Good spot on this one, he is definitely psychologically imbalanced. Best wishes i have nothing but sympathy.

Real men don't ambush people with LIBEL while posting anonymously. You are all but proving my points. Do you know libel judgements CANNOT BE BANKRUPTED? That's a FINANCIAL DEATH PENALTY. I could easily just hand your post off to an attorney and let you be dealt with that way; bet you wouldn't be so brave in a court of law with your name known to everyone. that you post this anonymously actually makes what you're doing a FELONY under 47 USC 223. I'm not going to break the law to respond in kind, but let your behavior just speak for itself. Alphas seem to NEED to attack others, which is their primary weakness. "Betas" are much SMARTER than that, focusing on positive additions to their lives, rather than running on meaningless conflicts with people they don't know.

Legalities aside, you are showing the fake-alpha for what he is: a sniveling COWARD who often uses a FAKE NAME rather than stand behind his own words or insults. Of course you are MEN saying this, without any women in sight.

BTW, any man DUMB enough to listen to you guys when he could follow my blueprint for getting SUPER-ELITES deserves the inferior women and major problems that come with your fake chest-thumping. Odd thing is that Mystery's mental state is quite well documented (he's made violent threats over women to other men), yet people pretend not to see that. The audience should keep in mind that anyone anonymous could have ANY agenda, as well as the standard community advice that men who "AMOG" others online are the true betas, and weak.

Actually, since i's just a matter of paperwork to get the names of people who LIBEL me, I might just drop a subpoena or two and then a lawsuit so these "alphas" can be the same big men in court they pretend to be out here. Risking the loss of one's assets FOR LIFE is not something I would do just to lie about someone online, but apparently my posting here has cuased a few to determine that this level of risk is worth lying about me. Men usually don't take risks like that unless a great deal of money or sex is at stake. At least an "alpha male" never would.

Ever wonder why these men perform so poorly in front of mixed audiences? Women see thtrough them very easily.

As I've said before, my primary income comes from the racetrack, so while I do make SOME money in this field, my main income is untouchable, though I definitely can sue for damages over a hideous posting like the above.

The funny thing is that these cyber-AMOGs are the ones most likely to be ruled imbalanced by the doctors, not me. I just built a fansite for a great actress. If that makes me mentally ill, I can show 10,000 other people online who have gone way more overboard than me.

Hope you got 300k for a lawyer and another 20k for an expert witness to prove your claims.
 
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XMinister said:
It really depends on the definition of alpha or beta males.....Slapping on a label and expecting someone to fit into that box is a little naive in my opinion.

My opinions of an alpha male is someone who is:

Adaptable
Confident
Interdependent
Stoic
Assertive
Discipline
Responsible

It seems like your definition of an alpha male is something like an arrogant, obnoxious ******* (which works) and gets women because of risk taking and treating them like shi't. I agree with you there. Behavior like that isn't sustainable.

Stoic men don't go off on me the way the fake wannabes here do. They LIBEL me over what? An internet board? Is it worth 300k in legal fees for someone to do that?

True alphas also don't have to call themselves such. My point anyway is that betas do better with women than alphas, and always willl, for the reasons I outlined.

Pardon me, but it seems I have to sue the crap out of a few idiots on this board who don't understand the severe legal and financial consequences of their little outburst. Don't worry, they will.
 
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bukowski_merit said:
I have no interest in responding to anything you wrote because after watching your videos - it's clear you are not well....




If this guy can show me a certified psychological evaluation from a mental health professional saying that he's in good mental health - i'll buy every book he's ever published X10.



He exhibits both Erotomania (the belief someone else shared a relationship with him that never existed), Grandiose (the belief that he created things that others are taking credit for), & Persecutory (the belief he has been done wrong by society; aka - women get the jobs over him when he's "more qualified.")

Also note: The chance of being addicted to gambling (and denial of being addicted) is almost 10 TIMES higher in people who suffer from psychological disorders. That means only 1 in 10 compulsive gamblers will be in good mental health.

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And here i thought he was trolling or just pushing his products....

(i just downloaded his book just to see how much crazy madman talk is in the book - and got as far as page 13 before it became clear that he also has a lying problem.) In the Spring of 1985 - he was apparently posting in a style that happens to contain tons of modern day "PUA" lingo and forum post style (this would also means he saved these messages for 25 years).

Get evaluated!

You're so "alpha" you to hide behind a pseudonym and a computer monitor while trying to play internet doctor.

I guess he missed the IRS forms for my wins that were also in the book. Like the 8k won in two weeks from a $20.00 bill.

Oh wait, he's JEALOUS. Women see through that as well.

Wonder how he'll do when his ISP notifies him that I want his name so I can file a lawsuit against him.

As I said before as well, he and the others would **** their pants before ever talking to me like that to my face.

Oh and the "argument ad hominem" is an eighth-grade debate flaw. It's the IDEAS that matter, not the speaker.

See you in court, "Doctor." Hope you got 300k for a lawyer...
 

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Do omega's have it better than beta's? Cause threatening people on the net about 300k lawsuits is something only retards do who clearly are omega's instead of beta's...

grow up
 

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BettorOffSingle said:
You're so "alpha" you to hide behind a pseudonym and a computer monitor while trying to play internet doctor.

I guess he missed the IRS forms for my wins that were also in the book. Like the 8k won in two weeks from a $20.00 bill.

Oh wait, he's JEALOUS. Women see through that as well.

Wonder how he'll do when his ISP notifies him that I want his name so I can file a lawsuit against him.

As I said before as well, he and the others would **** their pants before ever talking to me like that to my face.

Oh and the "argument ad hominem" is an eighth-grade debate flaw. It's the IDEAS that matter, not the speaker.

See you in court, "Doctor." Hope you got 300k for a lawyer...
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Take a GOOD look at the behavior of the various posters in this gorup, folks. You'll see why this whole "alpha" posturing promoted by the commercial interests is just a pile of bullcrap.

We have the fake tough-guys who generally turn into whipped idiots when talking to women.

We have the "internet doctors" who think disagreeing with them is proof of mental illness.

We have men willing to risk 300k+ in legal bills, losing everything they have, and a LIFETIME IN BANKRUPTCY, so they can lie about someone they never met, over something they claim is not even a commercial interest (of course if they hide, we don't know if they have a hidden agenda).

We have men who say things they would NEVER say in front of a mixed audience, while what I say is basically what women will tell you straight up they like and appreciate. Contrary to popular belief, women DO want decent men, they just want decent men to be INTERESTING as well. Most betas aren't interesting. Many more just aren't good in bed.

The "alphalphas" don't seem to get that women are LYING when they "respect" their posturing. They just know the men eat it up and continue to behave stupid, which they find AMUSING. The ones who respond to this tend to be very slutty and with low self-esteem. The men who engage in the behavior lack the ability to attract the super-elites, so they have to settle for the slot-trash.

In the REAL world, anyone who talked about or to me as some have done here would not be able to cross my path again, or to pretend they are civilized. They would be ostracized as bullies, if not worse. They generally know the negatiev consequences of their behavior, so this is why they restrict it to the internet.

A STRONG BETA is a DECENT man who treats women well, is NOT desperate, has taken the time to understand women, and has developed some scorching sexual techniques (hypnosis, massage, and domination are my big three) that separate him from the lesser betas. He also APPLIES his intelligence specifically to seduction.

Most of all, the smart beta does not engage in conflict, because he knows that going home to a super-elite is all the WINNING he ever needs to do. He has nothing to prove, to anyone, or to the world.

As for why I post here, the men claimed to want HELP with their love lives. If they are lost, by definition they would not be able to know who knows what they are talking about and who does not. The cyber-AMOGs who interfere are essentially trying to play guru as much as those they bash. As Bruce Lee would have said: "When you bash the guru, you BECOME the guru."

Anyone who would BULLY someone with the crap posted to me here is not a real man at all. He's a COWARD who hides behind his monitor, too SCARED to post his real name. Women like REAL MEN, for sure. Real men have REAL NAMES and aren't afraid of using them. I don't post under a pseudonym.

To the men stupid enough to engage in the behavior I've cited, or reward it, look no further than this behavior as a sign of why you will always have problems with women, and probably with life in general. Many are just JEALOUS, something I've had to deal with since I started winning serious money betting at age nineteen. I guess it must eat someone alive to know I can make more money betting a single race than they would have to slave for a MONTH at a regular job to earn. Too darn bad. I took the time to develop my skills, both in betting and with women, and share my knowledge of women for men who are SMART enough to see the strength in my approach. No skin off my back if they don't, but the cyberbullying is a bit much.

I assure the reader that none of these men would ever have the courage to mouth off like that to my face. That's why they have to try to get their manhood at my expense, with cyber-ambushes. The very community gurus they cite about "alpha males" have noted that hating on others the way they hate on me is the #1 sign that they are the true betas. They think their aggression and noise is a substitute for manhood; it is not.

Now if they don't like my ideas, they are free not to read what I write, but this isn't enough for them. They want YOU not to read it as well, and will harass and lie about me until they accomplish their mission. This is why I GIVE away my book; no amount of hating in the world is going to stop someone from downloading something FREE that may solve a big problem in their lives.

To the idiot who noted I was posting ASF-style "field reports" in 1985, I was not. I posted them ABOUT that era, AS IF ASF had existed back then. Anyone who can think in the abstract would see this very clearly.

I will continue to post here, but will ignore the haters as best I can, usually just posting stuff in new threads, while the replies may go ignored. In cases of simple hating, that is to avoid fanning the flames. In the case of actionable libel, like imputation of mental illness (which is also harassment and a hate crime in my state, and federally), it is likely because I am quietly going to get lawyers involved and teach these people once and for all why there is a proverb that says if you can't say something nice about someone, not to say anything at all.

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BettorOffSingle said:
Most of all, the smart beta does not engage in conflict, because he knows that going home to a super-elite is all the WINNING he ever needs to do. He has nothing to prove, to anyone, or to the world.
So, why do you engage in so many conflicts and such? Your conflicts with various message boards are all over the internet and span back many years! You go to message board after message board and create conflicts (just search bettoroffsingle@aol.com in google). Over at PUAhate - they call you the king of all trolls. That's pretty remarkable considering almost all of them are trolls. If smart beta's do not engage in conflict - why does it follow you wherever you go?

Are you not a "smart beta"? Are you not above this?


BettorOffSingle said:
I assure the reader that none of these men would ever have the courage to mouth off like that to my face.
Why? And isn't this "Alpha" talk anyway? Saying someone wouldn't have the courage to say something to your face? If we are weaker than you in some way - guess what that makes you? The Alpha male!

Just saying.... (that's all im saying to you... period... so feel free to come at me as aggressive as you want.... i personally think you should be banned because from your history on other message boards - all you do is stir up trouble. but... the mods here suck (don't exist), so you'll probably be free to run amok as long as you want.)
 

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bukowski_merit said:
So, why do you engage in so many conflicts and such? Your conflicts with various message boards are all over the internet and span back many years! You go to message board after message board and create conflicts (just search bettoroffsingle@aol.com in google). Over at PUAhate - they call you the king of all trolls. That's pretty remarkable considering almost all of them are trolls. If smart beta's do not engage in conflict - why does it follow you wherever you go?

Are you not a "smart beta"? Are you not above this?




Why? Isn't this "Alpha" talk anyway? Saying someone wouldn't have the courage to say something to your face? If we are weaker than you in some way - guess what that makes you? The Alpha male!

Just saying....
+1 For you and your logic. Stupid trolls are stupid.
 

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bukowski_merit said:
So, why do you engage in so many conflicts and such? Your conflicts with various message boards are all over the internet and span back many years! You go to message board after message board and create conflicts (just search bettoroffsingle@aol.com in google). Over at PUAhate - they call you the king of all trolls. That's pretty remarkable considering almost all of them are trolls. If smart beta's do not engage in conflict - why does it follow you wherever you go?

Are you not a "smart beta"? Are you not above this?




Why? And isn't this "Alpha" talk anyway? Saying someone wouldn't have the courage to say something to your face? If we are weaker than you in some way - guess what that makes you? The Alpha male!

Just saying.... (that's all im saying to you... period... so feel free to come at me as aggressive as you want.... i personally think you should be banned because from your history on other message boards - all you do is stir up trouble. but... the mods here suck (don't exist), so you'll probably be free to run amok as long as you want.)
Buk the guy is a sensitive hypocrite, sound logic with "emotional Sally's" like him is pointless, this guy reminds me of my battles with another charlatan on this site who got banned a couple years ago.I truly believe guys like him are sick and delusional and they don't have the success with women as they claim, if they did. They wouldn't get in a huff every time some disagrees with them.

The fact that he is obsessed over some chick and made a website about it is beyond creepy

p.s. and OP I would say that to your face!
 

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Ray that is one hefty book! 600 odd pages! I skimmed it a bit, it's kind of like a diary? I like the format but do you get laid at any point in the book? I only skimmed it.

One thing though, do you actually get laid at any point in that book?
 

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Ladies and gentlemen of SoSuave, let this thread be a shining example of how reason can only exist in the realm of reason.

Meaning, when dealing with a batsh*t crazy man, you can't use reason to get him to concede.

This extends to how you deal with crazy women - you don't. You let them be crazy, and use your reasoning to leave, not to talk.

I'll be clever and make no implications as to who I think is batsh*t crazy here. I think it's fairly obvious, don't you?
 

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It can't be to sell books could it? I'ts like like two people in this thread have already bought it because of his ranting.
 
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