Why men have turned to awful models of masculinity and how to change it(Redpill in mainstream media)

[Gamisch]

Again the manosphere makes it to the big stage. Crazy to hear a politician speak as if he is a member of this forum. Seems like more and more women becoming unhappy about the fact that men leave the dating world.

One YouTube comment nailed it. It said: "women have slowly been changing dating for years. Now men opt out and suddenly there's panic everywhere. "

 

[Bokanovsky]

Again the manosphere makes it to the big stage. Crazy to hear a politician speak as if he is a member of this forum.

Maybe he is. We need more politicians like him.

 

[BadBoy89]

Seems like more and more women becoming unhappy about the fact that men leave the dating world.

One YouTube comment nailed it. It said: "women have slowly been changing dating for years. Now men opt out and suddenly there's panic everywhere. "

I wouldn't say men are opting out, they are just opting out with women over 30. Any normal man would love to date a decent-looking woman with 0 kids and 0 divorces under 30. It's when the woman gets over 30 things get dicey.

OK, let's say these politicians are right. But if you want men to become men, you have to give men laws and public opinion to work with.

You can't portray young women as the goddess that should be worshipped, give women power to work, make money, not be virgins before marriage, divorce at will, take half the man's money, crucify men for wanting kids or family, have every tv show and movie (ahem...Barbie) promote feminism, arrest men for making a sexual move on women, and then say "Why are men so weak nowadays?"

Well, because you politicians made the laws that if they show any strength their lives will be ruined.

Idiots.

 

[Solomon]

Gen-Z isn't with the chasing women, approaching women, dealing with women b.s.

I typically see two types of Gen-Z dudes

That Guy-who gets the women he wants whether me makes 6 figures, or is a handsome guy, or got "Rizz" those guys clean up with pretty wh0res you know the top 10%

The average guy- who is struggling or doesn't get ****, this is 80% of Gen-Z men, have no masculine frame, and are feminist by default

 

[Reincarnated]

Gen-Z isn't with the chasing women, approaching women, dealing with women b.s.

I typically see two types of Gen-Z dudes

That Guy-who gets the women he wants whether me makes 6 figures, or is a handsome guy, or got "Rizz" those guys clean up with pretty wh0res you know the top 10%

The average guy- who is struggling or doesn't get ****, this is 80% of Gen-Z men, have no masculine frame, and are feminist by default

This is a relatively accurate description in my experience.

 

[The Duke]

In the past 70years there have been two powerful forces that have greatly influenced society. Those are Hollywood and Technology.

There was a time when Hollywood promoted strong masculine figures in their movies. John Wayne, Samuel L. Jackson, Denzel Washington, Wesley Snipes, George Clooney, Clint Eastwood, Bruce Willis, Sylvester Stallone, Robert Redford, etc. These were great male role models that embodied masculine traits. You don't see these types in the leading Hollywood roles like you used to.

Technology has made it so women can do things only men were once capable of. Only men used to work in factories, modern machines changed all of that. Medical technology produced the pill so women could fuhk with next to no consequences.

In the late 80's and 90's video gaming really took off. Instead of boys playing outside learning how to socialize with others, staying active, they stayed indoors staring at screens for hours on end, more isolated from the real world. Dating apps have done the same thing. Porn used to be hard to get a hold of. Now its everywhere, more extreme, and most of its video. Social Media(twitter, instagram, onlyfans, etc) hasn't helped one bit. Its a platform for women to seek free attention from males and guys are happy to oblige. 77% of influencers are female, imagine that. All of these things have led to the demise of masculinity.

Up until recently, men have controlled every segment of society. Male dominance in Hollywood, Technology, Religion, Politics, Education, etc been eroding away for years. Every thing I listed above was created and controlled by MEN. And @Gamisch Women didn't change the dating scene, men did. We invented damn near every thing on the planet. Women accepted it like the good submissive servants we always wanted them to be. Men have gotten lazy, and women keep filling the positions. Now look at the schitt storm we have created.

Men need to own up to their role that has led to their demise. As masculine males we have to bring awareness to the others that don't see it.

 

[The Duke]

You can't portray young women as the goddess that should be worshipped, give women power to work, make money, not be virgins before marriage, divorce at will, take half the man's money, crucify men for wanting kids or family, have every tv show and movie (ahem...Barbie) promote feminism, arrest men for making a sexual move on women, and then say "Why are men so weak nowadays?"

The politicians are paid puppets. Large wealthy men that run corporations fund the politicians and thats why the laws are what they are.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Maybe he is. We need more politicians like him.

Yes. Vote Dr.Suave for World President.

 

[mbc0029]

Once the 2024 elections are over, I'm assuming most of the mainstream political outlets (Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc.) will suddenly forget about this topic (masculinity crisis, dating crisis, etc.). "Let's have the conversation, but never actually do anything about it".

I'll take it, but it seems to be more about the "Beta Bucks" side of hypergamy. To me, it's that simple. Even the most masculine guy on the panel (the guy on the bottom right), still thinks of masculinity as a construct.

When campaign season is in full swing, I expect to hear more about the manosphere. It'll likely die down after 2024, but it's interesting to see.

 

[The Duke]

I was very surprised the video was on MSNBC. All the left wing news outlets have changed their tune slightly in the past year. It's all about ratings and advertiser dollars. Look what happened to CNN.
The woke deal doesn't pay the bills anymore. Media is the biggest bunch of legalized prostitutes you'll ever find . My grandpa always said, you want the answers you follow the money. Means a lot when it comes from the son of a poor German immigrant turned multi millionaire.

 

[Gamisch]

I was very surprised the video was on MSNBC. All the left wing news outlets have changed their tune slightly in the past year. It's all about ratings and advertiser dollars. Look what happened to CNN.
The woke deal doesn't pay the bills anymore. Media is the biggest bunch of legalized prostitutes you'll ever find . My grandpa always said, you want the answers you follow the money. Means a lot when it comes from the son of a poor German immigrant turned multi millionaire.

I have no doubts that media outlets are reluctant to broadcast shyte like this . Basically any big channel like that can invite any dating coach and let him explain these dynamics in a eli5 way, yet they refused to do that for years now .

No matter how much they're trying to hide this, its still a HUGE portion of people's lives. The whole premise of " work hard and marry a good woman " is suddenly gone. While we were trained to be like that . Men wanna take care of their loved ones ,while women wanna be independent ( and still I'm baffled that so many men give up on LIFE and their ambitions because they " don't have a woman boohoo") .

Meanwhile the people running these media outlets probably do live a rather traditional life. Even they'll have to acknowledge that..things aint going too well. Because dating is reduced to online venting, ruled by one company while nobody knows how the really operate, and 60 if not more percentage of men already kinda gave up on dating .

 

[mbc0029]

I was very surprised the video was on MSNBC. All the left wing news outlets have changed their tune slightly in the past year. It's all about ratings and advertiser dollars. Look what happened to CNN.
The woke deal doesn't pay the bills anymore. Media is the biggest bunch of legalized prostitutes you'll ever find . My grandpa always said, you want the answers you follow the money. Means a lot when it comes from the son of a poor German immigrant turned multi millionaire.

100% agree

 

[SargeMaximus]

They gaslit men (who keep society running) and now they realize how much they need us. Too late. Ai sex robots wen?

 

[The Duke]

They gaslit men (who keep society running) and now they realize how much they need us. Too late. Ai sex robots wen?

It's coming. Wait until they equip full size
silicone love dolls with AI. Make them vibrate here and there, get wet, a little feedback. Another segment of male society will check out. It's not far off.

 

[SargeMaximus]

It's coming. Wait until they equip full size
silicone love dolls with AI. Make them vibrate here and there, get wet, a little feedback. Another segment of male society will check out. It's not far off.

Am I the only one that wants that? Sounds incredible to me.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Throughout history, men loved and protected women. Men gave them washing machines, indoor plumbing, tampons, clean water... ample food such that we have an obesity problem that the world has never seen before. Men gave women everything they could have wanted. As men paused to look upon their achievement, feminist turn to woman and say, "you don't need a man. Men are the ones 'holding you back'".

Women listened. In return, men got divorce, broken families, low morals, infidelity, inequality at work, the me2 movement, etc.. etc..

Young men see the situation, and they turn their backs. Who can hold out the longest? I don't think it's going to be women. Tick tock.. tick tock.. hear that? It's the biological clock. If women do not reproduce, their stupid ideas will die with them. Who are they going to teach their philosophy to? Children of other parents? Good luck. A lot of parents are noticing this and are doing things to protect their kids from bad ideology.

Men do control the world. And men do take charge. Waking away. Making sure there will be more unmarried women in their 40's, etc.. etc.. that's the silent power of men. Society will change. Women either "wake up" to the brain washing, or most will die alone; and a new generation raised by a different ideology will come into power. It already happening.

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

Throughout history, men loved and protected women. Men gave them washing machines, indoor plumbing, tampons, clean water... ample food such that we have an obesity problem that the world has never seen before. Men gave women everything they could have wanted. As men paused to look upon their achievement, feminist turn to woman and say, "you don't need a man. Men are the ones 'holding you back'".

Women listened. In return, men got divorce, broken families, low morals, infidelity, inequality at work, the me2 movement, etc.. etc..

Young men see the situation, and they turn their backs. Who can hold out the longest? I don't think it's going to be women. Tick tock.. tick tock.. hear that? It's the biological clock. If women do not reproduce, their stupid ideas will die with them. Who are they going to teach their philosophy to? Children of other parents? Good luck. A lot of parents are noticing this and are doing things to protect their kids from bad ideology.

Men do control the world. And men do take charge. Waking away. Making sure there will be more unmarried women in their 40's, etc.. etc.. that's the silent power of men. Society will change. Women either "wake up" to the brain washing, or most will die alone; and a new generation raised by a different ideology will come into power. It already happening.

That was such a cool post. I really like it

 

[Bokanovsky]

It's coming. Wait until they equip full size
silicone love dolls with AI. Make them vibrate here and there, get wet, a little feedback. Another segment of male society will check out. It's not far off.

Silicone women equipped with AI vs. biological women equipped with silicone. Your future choices right there

 

[The Duke]

Silicone women equipped with AI vs. biological women equipped with silicone. Your future choices right there

The feminists and beta's will surely make it criminal to pull the batteries out of the AI woman and leave her in the closet for a few days. Haha.

 

[Smok1nAce]

Throughout history, men loved and protected women. Men gave them washing machines, indoor plumbing, tampons, clean water... ample food such that we have an obesity problem that the world has never seen before. Men gave women everything they could have wanted. As men paused to look upon their achievement, feminist turn to woman and say, "you don't need a man. Men are the ones 'holding you back'".

Women listened. In return, men got divorce, broken families, low morals, infidelity, inequality at work, the me2 movement, etc.. etc..

Young men see the situation, and they turn their backs. Who can hold out the longest? I don't think it's going to be women. Tick tock.. tick tock.. hear that? It's the biological clock. If women do not reproduce, their stupid ideas will die with them. Who are they going to teach their philosophy to? Children of other parents? Good luck. A lot of parents are noticing this and are doing things to protect their kids from bad ideology.

Men do control the world. And men do take charge. Waking away. Making sure there will be more unmarried women in their 40's, etc.. etc.. that's the silent power of men. Society will change. Women either "wake up" to the brain washing, or most will die alone; and a new generation raised by a different ideology will come into power. It already happening.

Yep and perfectly stated. Its the war on women.