Why Men Have Given Up On Dating Women

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It's OVER for ShortBaldCels.
The most successful seduction student of all time is a 5'6" man who was balding at the time he started studying pickup and seduction.

Circa 2000, Neil Strauss was around age 30, 5'6", and was balding. He had a Ivy League bachelor's degree and had some career accomplishments since his 1991 graduation. He had written for the New York Times and Rolling Stone. He co-wrote Marilyn Manson's 1998 autobiography and co-wrote Motley Crue's autobiography in 2001. Despite his status as a music journalist, Ivy League graduate, and good financial situation from solid earnings from his high profile journalism work, he had struggled to get attention and get laid with women. He was an incel/borderline incel.

Strauss was quite successful in learning concepts of seduction and applying them in real world settings. He went from being ignored by women to being able to have sex with many women.

Most students of seduction are not nearly as successful as Strauss. He was outlier level in terms of his success in applying learnings.
 

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Not MGTOW or anything, but I have stopped caring for a minute. I want to focus more on what I'm really trying to do, and dating is a distraction.
 

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Again it depends on the age of the woman, but I don’t think it’s mindset holding men back. Don’t want to sound like a broken record, but a lot of it js height and hair, After a man has that, then other attributes are important. If a man lacks that, he won’t even get into the game.

Now when we talk women, we are talking hot young women under 30 with 0 divorces and 0 kids. If you want to f a single mother in her 40s, then yes, mindset is important and height and hair is not.
I disagree

You're basically saying mindset depends in regards to success on the type of quality woman you are approaching basically putting her value over yours.

As a man your mindset is based on you, Height/Hair/Money etc none of that means anything with women unless you have the mindset as a man first to be willing to succeed even if you fail. This means taking intentioal action, and if the outcome doesn't go your way, you try again. If the outcome does go your way great. Even if the outcome doesn't go your way as long as you learn from it and are willing to try again. That's a major factor, a lot of men nowadays lack resilience and dedication. The fact that your'e thinking that is all about hair and height subconcously you're already setting yourself up for failure cause you look at women under 30 with no kids and no marriage as the prize(hence putting them on a pedestal)
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The mindset of any successfull guy with women is that he's the prize, and I'm saying this from expertince, regardless of the woman's value. This isn't to say that height/hair etc doesn't matter but before you get in the game, you have to have the mindset that you will win(or at least learn). Some examples of bad mindsets that a lot of men have is fear of rejection or social interactions hold guys back from pursuing women. Negative self-talk, self-doubt, and bad experiences can destroy confidence, making it harder to approach potential partners. These can all kill a postive or motviated mindset with the quickness. To say that men aren't suffering from negative or bad mindsets, is like a fat woman calling herself a "10" on a Redpill podcast.

Have you noticed that successfull people tend to hang around other successful people why do you think that is? Successfull people tend to graviate towards each other and understand surrounding yourself with postive and motivated individuals can boost your mindset and help you get to the next level(wheter it's women, business, life, etc). Successfull people understand to get to the level that they want takes hard work, dedication and perservancer. To have this type of resolve it takes a mindset that is focused not just on results but embacing the journey of learning, striving and improving.

When I read posts from men who sturggle today with women compared to 15 years ago. I don't get that vibe that men are focused on embracing the journey of learning, striving and imprvoing. It's quickly becoming a lost mindset
 
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