Why life and romace suck..

[cola]

Guy 1: Treats girl like crap, calls her out of her name, embarasses her infront of peers, ignores her completely as a person.

Guy 2: Buys her whatever she needs, Tells her he Loves her, Flatters her infront of peers.

We're all don juans. We know whos going to end up with the girl in this situation.

-- Why I wrote this thread?
Because it basically means that all the bs we were taught as children about being gentleman was a big fat greek lie. We are genuinely in a age where being naturally kind is a detriment to your success not just with women but in life.
You have to be underhanded, sneaky and devious to get where you want to go in life.


This ****s with my outlook. I am pessimistic now. I dont want to be known as a pessimist but when people tell me this bs about falling in love and how he or she is the one after discovering this community i have to be the grim reaper in the conversation..

You know don juans sometimes i wish we were brainwashed..
instead of everyone else..

 

[Hughman]

How morbid, but with so many rings of truth. I hate what we have to go through before we reach the state of mind we are aiming for.

Tbh I don't care about the number of women I sleep with, as long as I'm satisfied. Sure I'm all for plates, but if i find someone who cares for me, and I can quite happily spend my time with or without her, and gives me a fulfilling sex life, why fix what is not broken? (as soon as it breaks, attempt to fix and then dump, again, I agree with that principle as well)

I like to think I'm a pessimist. I have no faith in the New Media, in the Global Corporations, in the World States. But ultimately I always have faith in humanity, even when it seems to be lacking so much. I always look to tomorrow when today appears to hold no hope for me. I have friends who I am willing to lay down my life for, and I am certain they think the same for me. Flame me for not saying that your life is the most important thing, but in my opinion, it is not always the most important thing.

 

[pLaYtHiNg]

I hate that there are so many girls out there who fall for the Guy # 1's and color the way men think about them. That's too bad. I'm really starting to wonder if anyone else out there is like me, and waiting for the Guy # 2 to come along.

But ultimately I always have faith in humanity, even when it seems to be lacking so much. I always look to tomorrow when today appears to hold no hope for me. I have friends who I am willing to lay down my life for, and I am certain they think the same for me. Flame me for not saying that your life is the most important thing, but in my opinion, it is not always the most important thing.

I totally agree with you.

 

[search1ng]

You do realize not everything is set in black and white. You just adjust to the situation. Some girls require the jerk, some you can be the perfect gentleman with. By gentleman i don't mean AFC style, i mean the alpha DJ gentleman. At the end of the day after going through all those women I'm sure you'll find 'her'. Unless that's not ultimately what you're after.

 

[mothballs]

You do realize not everything is set in black and white. You just adjust to the situation. Some girls require the jerk, some you can be the perfect gentleman with. By gentleman i don't mean AFC style, i mean the alpha DJ gentleman. At the end of the day after going through all those women I'm sure you'll find 'her'. Unless that's not ultimately what you're after.

Yup. There are a lot of girls that will be attracted to that bad boy and think they should try to fix him or that he's more of a real man... and there are plenty of AFC's who are going to be on the sidelines whining about how they could never get that girl because they are a gentleman and not a jerk. However, a true DJ could probably get the attention of most of those girls and still be a gentleman. The "jerk attraction" only occurs because jerks appear to be more interesting on the surface... all you need to do (not saying it's easy, but it is simple) is project the confidence and excitement of the jerk without mistreating her.

 

[WhtRbt]

Guy 1: Treats girl like crap, calls her out of her name, embarasses her infront of peers, ignores her completely as a person.

Guy 2: Buys her whatever she needs, Tells her he Loves her, Flatters her infront of peers.

We're all don juans. We know whos going to end up with the girl in this situation.

Guy 1 is a Jerk.

Guy 2 is a Niceguy.

We strive to be Guy 3. The Don Juan.

We are mature men that have our sh*t together. We work hard. We treat people with respect, and expect to be treated with respect ourselves. We are leaders. We are smart.

Not only that but we are fun and exciting to be around. We are playful. We always try to be positive and put a positive spin on things. We can always look at the bright side. We are funny as hell. We can banter like nobodies business with women and with anyone. We have a sharp wit and a great attitude.

We take very good care of everything we own. Our houses are clean. Our clothes look good. Everything is in order.

We can be stern if we need to. We are always honest, but not open. We don't take sh*t from anyone. We are strong. We are healthy.

The Don Juan does not treat women like a jerk or a niceguy, because he is nothing like those people. Every girl wants to be with someone like the DJ. If you can become like a Don Juan, women will flock to you and you can still be a gentleman.

The Don Juan is a combination of the Jerk and the Niceguy. He is made up of a mixture of the good or desirable qualities of the Jerk, and the good or desirable qualities of the Niceguy put together without the bad qualities.

But there is another combination that can be made with the Jerk and the Niceguy. He is:

Guy 4 the AFC.

He is the negative mixture of Niceguy and Jerk. He is made up of their bad or undesirable qualities.

The Jerk will get the damaged or crazy women.
The Niceguy will get the fat or ugly women.
The AFC will get no women.
The Don Juan will get the best women or the keepers.

We can all be whichever Guy we choose. Throughout our lives, we've been all of these Guys at one time or another. Even the Don Juan. If there were no AFC, there could be no Don Juan. If we want to be a Don Juan, we need only spend more time acting like one.


To the OP:

You seem frustrated. You seem negative and pessimistic. Which guy are you spending most of your time as?

 

[Daydream Engineer]

A Song, musica maestro!

Dear studio audience i have an announcement to make!

Guy one, The Jerk treats her like parrot crap,
while Guy 2 gives her things and a buck,
Guy 3 the real manly one, the Don Juan
is thinking naughty like senior thief Ali baba,
the reason why life and romance rocks,
is because while The Afc gets no girls,
The nice guy makes all his romance known
and the jerk makes her heart swirl and twirl,
but the Don Juan is explosions and firepower,
because he shows her the fun side of the world,
and takes her on a ride thru the sexual atmosphere,
checkmating her like a king, like a true sire,
levitating her into a rare orgasmic desire,
Be the Don Juan, that's how its done
Follow Don Juan, and your life and romance won't suck!.

 

[omkara]

It does seem that certain aspects of modesty, humility, selflessness, putting others before oneself, honesty, etc. are antithetical to attracting lots of women--at least in the sense of being a PUA. That is why I chose the Don Juan community over all others. I wouldn't want to spend five minutes hanging out with Mystery or David D. Sure they are good at attracting stupid women, but that's about it. I am trying to find a way where I can be alpha and score without having to give up my values, which ultimately are the source of my confidence and inner strength.

And yes, it is disconcerting at times that those who are more in-your-face, selfish, and less scrupulous tend to attract women better at the outset. But, I asked a girl about this, why jerks tend do better with women. And she said that they may be good at picking them up, but they are terrible at keeping them. I have been great at keeping women in the past, so I guess having principles has helped me in the game in a roundabout way. Integrity is rare nowadays. It may not be so obvious at first, like in a pickup situation in a bar. But if people get the sense that you are a man of substance, then they will want to keep you around. Or at least I hope so.

 

[Paintballguy]

Bottom line is that women want a man. A man doesn't supplicate her and serve her every need.

 

[MisterMcGee]

I don't know how long its going to take people to realize that guys that are supplicant, easily tranced by a woman, and needy, are in no way ideal. It's not "aw, poor guy. hes so nice but cant get women cause women are sick and like jerks!"
I'm not going to finish this post because it's all in the dj bible.

ps. aw, poor nice guy.

 

[axxo]

Listen to Good Charlotte - Break Apart Her Heart. It says much about this topic.

 

[Willis]

whoever that ***** is she got it good...

A Lame Niceguy to buy her stuff, give her attention, and be a shoulder to cry on when the jerk is being mean

And the Jerk who makes her ***** wet and ****s her like the slut she is....while on the Harley