Why is it so hard

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When you look at the avg person, most people dont look good or built. I have tried to bodybuild but its so hard, and it takes alot of dedication and effort.

I am the lazy type and I want to know how can I motivate myself to get off my ass and workout. I feel lazy and tired. I rather just watch a movie.

I get discouraged fast, I expect to see results in a few workout like 2 or 3. I want to be ripped and huge and I work out like three times and I get upset that I dont look like what I want and my motivation tanks.

I hate this because it really affects my ability to get any results.

How can I solve this problem?
 

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Easy way to deal with that is just keep at it man just keep going add morew weight more reps and keep increasing, but thats not the key. The key is to hardly ever look at your body in a full mirror nude, try that for a few months then go take a peek not a hour long gaze just a peak, I done that for 6 months and well it worked wonders.

If that doesnt work just sit there and daydream about having a hot body and get ugly and fat.
 

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typical said:
The key is to hardly ever look at your body in a full mirror nude,
Guess it works differently for everybody :D , I am motivated by admiring the hunk in the mirror :up: (Gym addict)
 

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Set small goals based on the amount of weight you're lifting. IE If you start by benching only 130lbs, set a goal to increase that by 2.5lbs a week. Focus on how much stronger you're getting by working out and before you know it you'll start looking better too. That's why I like it when I get a little muscle soreness - sure it can be a little painful, but I also know that my body is repairing itself to a point where I'll be stronger than I was before.
 

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One of my biggest drives to get into bodybuilding was a state of depression. I had lost a lot of weight and had become rather skinny. People (including my ex) commented on how thin I looked, guys talked down to me like a wimp, women treated me like a sweet asexual and to make matters worse, I had just been rejected by a fat chick!

This got me motivated enough to start. Even though I didn't see any quick results, I noticed that every week I started to feel better about myself and I actually started to enjoy it. It gave me a purpose and a goal, something to look forward to. Then gradually I started noticing people's attitudes change towards me, I could feel my muscles stretching my shirts and then I started getting more comments on my physique. I noticed girls staring at my chest and arms, I saw girls ogling me as I past and while on a bus I even had a girl "accidentally" fall on me and stroke my chest, twice! At this time I was not ripped or anywhere near the goal I'd set myself, but I was seeing results I never expected!

My sex drive rocketed, I felt bold and confident, and generally healthier and happier. One instance I will never forget is when I was out with a girl one evening and a gang of rough guys started hassling her. I was terrified to be honest, but I stepped in and to my surprise they all backed down, apologised and shook my hand! There's no doubt they could have beat me (and probably would have if I was still the skinny wimp I used to be), but I suddenly had this presence that commanded respect...and still do.

This is just a few personal experiences which I hope will help motivate you. It's a fact that you won't see any dramatic results in a matter of weeks, but the process is gradual and ongoing. Every week you workout brings you closer to your goal, and every week you'll feel better than the last, notice attitude changes and compliments. Just keep in mind that even if you aren't moving fast, at least you are moving forward. Compare this to the alternative of stagnating in front of TV.
 

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It's only hard because you haven't set any goals for yourself.

You have no point of reference to see where you're at compared to where you've been and you don't know where you're going.

You have a quasi idea of where you'd like to be but haven't realized the commitment and effort getting there is going to take...

4 weeks ago I was 215 @ 21% BF
now I'm 226 @ 19% BF

slow going I know but I'm still workin with my schedules but...

I have a goal to get down to 10% BF like I was in high school...

You wanna know what keeps me motivated....


I have been keeping track of what I'm doing...and I'm seeing the results on paper even though I can't really see a difference in the mirror

That and even though I've only made a small dent in my goal other people are taking notice....

so keep at it ....buiding a nice body isn't like winning the lottery it's more like growing a forest....it's gonna take some time to see the results

:up:
 

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ssj245 said:
When you look at the avg person, most people dont look good or built. I have tried to bodybuild but its so hard, and it takes alot of dedication and effort.

I am the lazy type and I want to know how can I motivate myself to get off my ass and workout. I feel lazy and tired. I rather just watch a movie.

I get discouraged fast, I expect to see results in a few workout like 2 or 3. I want to be ripped and huge and I work out like three times and I get upset that I dont look like what I want and my motivation tanks.

I hate this because it really affects my ability to get any results.

How can I solve this problem?
i think that's because you(like most people) only work out half-azzed. talking about not focusing on the compounds and nutrition. in return you see little results which isn't motivating. personally i either a)hardly work out at all b)full motivated never missing a workout, very good diet or c)when i just want to stay in the same shape: consistently working out with acceptable diet and weekend cheating(when i'm going out).

i have mates how go to the gym like 4-5days a week for 2,5years now....and they improved only slightly because they drink a lot and dont watch their diet. i am ASTONISHED that they still go to the gym 4-5days a week, i would have lost any motivation if i were them. either go all the way or not at all.
 

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I will only

I'll only work for a while and then maybe after two weeks just give up and quit. I dont know I just say F it. Even when I know its important.
 

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The hardest part about going to the gym for a gym newbie is to feel comfortable in an area where there are so many people who seems to be much stronger and built than yourself. It is nothing really, nobody around the gym will be laughing at you because you are new to working out, everyone was like that at one stage.

Once you get over that mentality, gym will become something invaluable in your life. I found that at the start, if i went with a friend, or made some new friends in the gym, i would be more motivated to go. Of course, after a week or two, there will be some big results if you are doing your excercises properly, that is huge motivation.

I recommend http://forum.bodybuilding.com/index.php for people interested in fitness, nutrition and weightlifting, it is great and will teach you a lot of important knowledge :)
 

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Genetics make it hard.
 

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The key is to hardly ever look at your body in a full mirror nude
I do that all the time. I used to not watch in the mirror that much. But lately, since I started to look better I really enjoy seeing myself. And I think that is a pretty healthy thing to do. Don't go over the top with it though.


What I did was get a notebook or piece of paper or whatever. Make a record of how much you train for like one month straight. I started it with pushups. I do 4 series before I go to bed and mark that in my notebook. I did that for a month, then started a new graphic. If you're tired or upset or whatever. Just push through it.
I started with series of 15 pushups or so and now I do 30 sometimes. After doing that for a few weeks you will see your muscles get stronger. Keep in mind that your muscles do need rest too. So if you're going for heavy training you might want to insert some rest days. If you don't do that your muscle mass won't increase as much.

Focus on quality of the exercise, not quantity

It's also important that you have a confident posture. I mean, you can have all the muscles you want, but if you feel like approval seeking loser you're still coming across that way.
 

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SS, your profile says you're 19. I was going to bust out a hardcore reply questioning how as a grown man do you get through life being lazy and expecting great results with little persistence and effort, and who knows maybe you need a kick in the nuts to get you motivated, but if you're only 19 the lack of life experience is understandable. I had much the same attitude at that age.

I think one idea that you should consider, and you'll definitely understand this better as you gain a few years of life experience, is the concept of 'Rome wasn't built overnight.' Most things in life that are of any value, require a long-term approach. Long-term is measured in years, not weeks. This doesn't just apply to bodybuilding, it applies to any area of your life. Success is the result of your habits. Great achievements are the result of a strong desire and work ethic, applied consistently over time.

THELAZY mentioned that it's difficult to get started at the gym when half the people there are already big. An excellent point. You have to play the game against yourself, and better your score. Comparing yourself to others will only frustrate you.

When you look at the avg person, most people dont look good or built. I have tried to bodybuild but its so hard, and it takes alot of dedication and effort.

I am the lazy type and I want to know how can I motivate myself to get off my ass and workout. I feel lazy and tired. I rather just watch a movie.
The average person looks the way they do because they are "the lazy type." The only real reason you find bodybuilding hard is because you've adopted the attitude of laziness. To specifically answer your question of "how do I solve this problem," you need to become the "hard worker" type. The sooner you do this, and most never do, the sooner you'll see the quality of your life increase dramatically.

Try reading up on Vince Lombardi. Some of the stuff that guy said was so simple, yet pure genius. Here's a good link with some of his ideas summarized.
 

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On Excuses:

People tend to use excuses why they are not doing the things they want.

I am the lazy type and I want to know how can I motivate myself to get off my ass and workout. I feel lazy and tired. I rather just watch a movie.
Here is a nice excuse. I'm not succesfull because I'm lazy. I've always been lazy, that's just the way I am.

I get discouraged fast
And look another one. I'm not succesfull because I get discouraged fast.


I think you probably think to yourself right now: "hey, these excuses aren't helping me in life, do they? How can I get rid of them"


Great question.
You do that by believing that you are the kind of person you want to be. Say you want to be able to train well, hard and frequently.

First thing to do is:

-Stop focusing on the reasons why you're not able to train succesfully


Second:

-Start immediatly, stop *****in and get of your rear end :up:


Third:

-See yourself training well, hard and frequently and see yourself improving. Believe that it's possible. Create some affirmations for yourself like for example:
-I am a healthy person that works out frequently
-I have discipline and make sure I always work out on planned dates
-My body is powerfull and beautifull
-I always focus on the quality of my exercises, not the quantity
etc.
and repeat these frequently to yourself


Third:

-Be unattached to the outcome for at least 3 months of a good training program


And cherish every improvement

Good luck
 

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ssj245 said:
When you look at the avg person, most people dont look good or built. I have tried to bodybuild but its so hard, and it takes alot of dedication and effort.

I am the lazy type and I want to know how can I motivate myself to get off my ass and workout. I feel lazy and tired. I rather just watch a movie.

I get discouraged fast, I expect to see results in a few workout like 2 or 3. I want to be ripped and huge and I work out like three times and I get upset that I dont look like what I want and my motivation tanks.

I hate this because it really affects my ability to get any results.

How can I solve this problem?
set short term goals.

in 3 weeks i want to be able to do so many 100 metre sprints so fast,
in 9 weeks i want to have lowered my bf% by 4%
for the next 2 wees im going to go swimming twice a week every week, for 30 minutes all laps not more than 3 secs rest between each length.
and dont set goals for lifting a larger amount of weight, if you are in to be healthy and big, weight doesnt matter, only results do.

dont set goals like in 4 months i want this, obviously you need to set small short term goals.

remember even the guy thats 300 lbs lean that currently uses gear, didnt just start last fall, hes been at it for quite some time.:woo:
 

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I skipped all the replies, so pardon me if I repeat information.

Think of it this way. You want to look big after a few workouts, but lose motivation when you don't get there. So you stop.

You're going to get bigger by lifting, not by quitting. Nobody ever got big and buff by sitting on their lazy ass. Nobody ever got ANYWHERE by giving up. You want to give up? You want to get all down on yourself because you're not packing on 20lbs of muscle in a few weeks? Too f*cking bad. Get your ass into that weight room. Focus on the main three, deadlifts, squats, and bench press. Compound movements my friend will make a man out of you. Now stop whining and complaining and get the f*ck in that weight room.

:)
 

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I'm in the exact same boat. I wish I could tell you that I've been through it already, but I'm still going through the same stuff you're going through now, being only about 3 weeks into training.

One year from now, on May 30th, 2007, are you going to ask yourself "Gee, I wonder how much weight I'd be lifting today if I stuck with it? What if I took the advice that the posters on the DJ forum gave me to heart?"

I know and empathize with the fact that living the lifestyle of a bodybuilder is hard when the mirror tells you that you definitely don't look like a bodybuilder. You lift hard, eat big, but you still look like the same person you were before you started everything. This phase is the hardest part.

It may seem like it'll take an eternity to make huge progress, but let me ask you this. Does two or three years ago seem like a long time ago to you? It doesn't to me, it seems like the blink of an eye, actually.

Where do you think you'll be a few years from now? I'll tell you. It'll most likely go one of two ways: You'll either be a hell of a lot stronger and more built than you are right now, if that's the path you choose, or you'll be in the same boat you're in now, only with a few more years added on to your regret.

I'm terrified of wondering "What if?" and living a life of regret. Not just in regards to bodybuilding, but life as a whole. We're at a crossroads here.
 

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Consistency Is The Key

Here's one way to look at it: simple make it part of your lifestyle. Sounds cliche, but it's the only thing that will change you for good. For some people, changing their self-image and their body is extremely difficult if not impossible.

You set goals and wait and watch and nothing seems to happen so you give up.
This is natural. It's human nature.

But, let's say you don't set any goals at all but instead you simply set up your life so that you do or do not do certain things. Set up your life so that you only eat well and that you go to the gym and work out hard on certain days.

Do that consistently and your body WILL respond. It doesn't have a choice. You'll wake up one day months and months down the line and you'll see that you DID IT. Good luck.
 

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Implementing a Habit

by Tyler Durden

I noticed a pattern recently about how I implement habits.

Here is how I implement a habit.

Usually I'll get some idea of some over the top thing that I want to accomplish.

So maybe I weigh 120 pounds and I want to make the college football team. Or maybe I've had failing grades all through high school and I want to get in to the best college. Or maybe I can't get a girlfriend and I decide to be a PUA. I have tons of these.

First I will get an idea of what I'm trying to accomplish and what will be involved.

I have the general principle that while I'm not that smart, I know that most other people aren't that smart either. Or rather, its not that people aren't that smart, but just that most people walk through life in a trance and generally don't break out of their habits. They just listen to what other people tell them and aren't willing to look at the finer details of things, so it is easy to get to the top of any field if you are willing to do that. Everyone thinks that there are all these conspiracies and super ways that people do things, but usually the top guys are just as disorganized as the average dudes on the street. It's like kids at top colleges who pay six figures to attend school. You'd think that they'd show up to class, but they don't show up any more than the kids in cheaper schools. Human habit is human habit. I figure that there is pretty much no limit of what level I can reach so long as I have an idea of what the top level looks like. In fact, I assume that I can surpass it before I even start.

From there, I decide what I'll have to do to get to that point. I figure how long it will take, and the habit that I'll have to integrate on a DAY TO DAY.

This is what I consider PROACTIVE and LOGICAL reasoning. I don't wait until some girl dumps me to start going out when I'm emotionally compelled, and then stop going out when I feel better about myself. That is REACTIVE.

Instead, I figure to myself, "Alright, I have to go out 3-7 nights a week for around three years. Fine."

At that point I FULLY ACCEPT that this is what I will be doing. I also am unlikely to change my plans, as I tend to think that if I can't trust myself to stick to one area then I can't trust myself to stick to my next area, so there if I'm going to be like that then there's no point in even starting anything.

The big thing for me, is that I will get out there whether the conditions are ideal or not. So if I'm not dressed properly, I will still get out there. If I'm not feeling well, I'll just go out for a bit and come home to keep the habit. I do the same thing in the gym if I have not slept properly or if I am busy or sick. If I know that I'm too tired to get a good workout I'll still show up and push through it. If I'm too busy then I'll just rush through it and won't worry about eating before or after. And if I'm sick then I'll at least show up to the gym and stretch.

I don't think about these things. I just accept them.

Now the big thing when you start something new is that progress is going to be non-existent at first and will go up in a j-curve if you can make it through the initial pain. Most people quit because starting something is REALLY hard and usually feels directionless for a long time. The guys who make it through that initial part will eventually get to a level where progress is really fast and noticeable, and for them it will become a hobby and fun. But at first it is purely banging your head against the wall to make the most minuscule advancements. Not fun.

So in an area like pickup, if you are starting off as a total dork like I was then it is pretty much going to be zero progress for a few months. You will go out and people will be really unresponsive and hard on you. It won't change for a long time either, because the more you're getting rejected the more you're feeling ****ty. The only plus side is that you're learning that you won't die, which is actually pretty important.

When you start anything, whether sports or dance or music, it will probably be pretty embaressing and painful. You'll be around people who have it all figured out, and their neural connections will be fine tuned from what seems like infinite repetition. You'll see this, and it will just give you a headache. Literally, for me, I see this kind of thing and I feel nauseous because it is so intimidating.

The way I get through it is literally BLIND FAITH. I will figure out what the basic training is and do it OVER AN OVER, regardless of whether or not I get a result.

A big part of this is that I have NO OUTCOME for a very long time. My only outcome is to get my ass out of the house and to wherever I'm supposed to be. My criteria for success isn't how well I did. It's IF I SHOWED UP and did what I was supposed to do. My expectations of myself are very low.

I read posts on here about guys in the field for six months and frustrated that they aren't getting results, and I really don't relate to why they're finding this to be unusual. When I took my first workshop I was getting laid, but I had a major social fear of clubs and my goal was to learn how to game girls in that environment. It took me a few months to get my first club makeout but I never thought anything of it. It wouldn't have occurred to me to be one of these guys who comes on a month later and says "I still haven't gotten laid." I was told that it would take me six months to get "passably not lame," and I took that at face value. There was no way after I spent all that time and money that I wasn't going to go out and do what the guy told me to do. That would have devalidated the whole thing. To be honest, although I learned a lot on the program, I couldn't remember **** afterwards because the whole thing was shocking like a whirlwind. The big thing I took from it was INSPIRATION and CONFIRMATION THAT IT WAS POSSIBLE. That was ALL I needed to get good.

First I learned how to open in a club environment. OK, got that. Then how to hook attention for thirty seconds. Ok, got that. Then how to tell stories. OK, got that. Then how to tease and create sexual tension. OK, got that. Then how to get a number. OK, got that. Then I realized they all flaked. OK, scrap everything, back to the drawing board. Then how to deliver it better. OK, got better reactions. Then how to slow it the **** down to get the same reactions without being a dancing monkey. OK, got that. Each of these took weeks or months at a time.

The process went on for years, but now I have the exact result that I want.

Guys say to me "Wow, you had such dedication" and I can't relate to that. To me, that's like telling a kid who goes to play basketball after school for a few years that he has dedication. It wasn't dedication. It was a routine. A habit. A hobby. I made the time for it in my life, and I never worried about how well I was doing. I assumed with blind faith that everything would take care of itself if I just kept going out and meeting people to get advice on how I was doing.

Jlaix and I were talking, and he was like "Dude, my skills are in like the stratosphere lately. It's getting so good it's scary." I was like "Think about it. Remember back in the day when we were dorks, and we were like 'all we have to do is go out for six months and we'll be decent'? Six months seemed like forever back then, but now six months breezes by like its nothing, and every time that happens our skills are going up at the same rate that they were back in the day. The improvement keeps compiling and that's why these results are showing up."

If you think back to the last six months or a year, it seems like nothing. That time passes so fast. You get older and decades start to fly by.

When you implement a habit, you're thinking about the outcome and how hard the training is. So you go through the one night and because its one of your first nights you remember every detail and it seems like a lifetime. And then you think "Six more months of THIS? Or a YEAR?!"

But that's the wrong thinking. If you're thinking like that there is no way you'll get anywhere. The point is to just keep going out and not try to get results. Just go out and do your exercises and it will come naturally. Don't think of it as "Six more months." Think "This is what I'm doing now. My day consists of this now. This is my lifestyle."

To me, it comes down to this: 1-Get an idea of what you want. 2-Formulate a plan of how often you need to show up to get there. 3-Accept that your new activity is a part of your life for the duration of the time you've decided, and never decide based on emotions if you're going to show up or not. Just show up. 4-Don't worry if you're getting results, just stick to the plan with blind faith, and make your criteria for success just to show up. 5-Make it a hobby, look at the details critically without taking advice dogmatically, and take the initiative to shift the focus of your training when your intuition tells you that it might help.

Don't focus on chasing outcome. Focus on sticking to habits. Make your criteria for success if you stuck to the habit.

Anyway, hopefully that was helpful to some people.

Tyler Durden
Nice article about how to form good habits
 
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