Why is it ok to insult somebody as an Incel?

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

Incels belong in their houses.

They have no one to blame but themselves.
They could hit the weights, eat healthier, and even read some amazing books and learn a thing or two...

But they choose to play Halo, eat Lucky Charms, and wait in their rooms for their Mom to bring them their mid-afternoon snack.

Don’t feel sorry for people who choose to be a certain way.

god helps those who help themselves

 

[characternote]

I think many on this forum ignore the fact that there are some men out there putting in effort and still failing.

Yeah, some of the replies have been super blue pill - along the lines of 'take a shower, bro' lol.
I have some friends who are maybe considered 'incel' (by the modern definition which no longer seems to mean 'virgin', but someone who very rarely gets laid with hot girls?)
They have good jobs, play sport/work out etc.
They aren't 300lbs of fat, failing to take showers and spending all day playing fortnite eating lucky charms lol
They're just not good looking enough to get any luck on tinder, and don't have the balls to withstand 100's of cold approach rejections (from girls who have their pick of way more handsome guys) before opening an attracted girl (That's MY superpower and probably the reason i'm not 'incel' lol. Numbers game! haha. Pre covid i'd sometimes approach 50 girls in a night and end up getting lucky!)

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Why is it ok to insult somebody as an Incel?

Because it is fun! lol

 

[Bigpapa]

Yeah, some of the replies have been super blue pill - along the lines of 'take a shower, bro' lol.
I have some friends who are maybe considered 'incel' (by the modern definition which no longer seems to mean 'virgin', but someone who very rarely gets laid with hot girls?)
They have good jobs, play sport/work out etc.
They aren't 300lbs of fat, failing to take showers and spending all day playing fortnite eating lucky charms lol
They're just not good looking enough to get any luck on tinder, and don't have the balls to withstand 100's of cold approach rejections (from girls who have their pick of way more handsome guys) before opening an attracted girl (That's MY superpower and probably the reason i'm not 'incel' lol. Numbers game! haha. Pre covid i'd sometimes approach 50 girls in a night and end up getting lucky!)

not being good looking does not mean that you can not get laid at all , just that it is a little bit more difficult

it is ok to make fun of them or roast them as they are weak mean , not having the balls to face rejection

till like 100 years ago , men would die in battles , and nothing was worst than that for them . Nowadays guys are like “ dude , I do not want my feelings to be hurt “ . That is just lame

 

[SW15]

Keep in mind in the year 2000 the average married man fvcked 2x a week. Not 1x a month like today. I used to think 2x a week was pathetic. My how have things changed.

If I had a live in gf that I was attracted to I'd be laying pipe every day.

Sex twice a week is decent and not pathetic. There's never been a time I thought sex twice a week was bad. I've always thought of that as a baseline for a relationship.

For a short amount time, you would do that. After something like 6 months to a year at most, the sex frequency would diminish to some degree. Cohabitating couples often see their sex lives diminish in both frequency and quality, depending upon how long they live together.

Long term relationships kill libido. It's less common to see couples together for 5 years or more to have active sex lives. In longer term relationships, there is a lot of sex for the first two years. From the 2 year anniversary to the 5 year anniversary, some couples have a good sex life while others start to fade. Mostly everyone has seen sex frequency dip by the 5 year anniversary.

Men who are serial monogamists have good sex lives. Serial monogamists are men who have 1-5 year long relationships in perpetuity from ages 15-55 with limited breaks in between them. So long as you don't put a ring on it (then it becomes a serial monogamy marriage path) or have kids with any of your lovers, you'll have a solid sex life. You'll also deal with a lot of female drama, especially in the downside in all those relationships. It does beat putting a ring on it and having a nasty divorce, as well as beats paying child support to some bitter ex.

the millennial generation is unique due to our boomer parents who enjoyed a period of success that was virtually unheard of and unique in it's own way, we've discussed this on here before. I feel that many millennials grew up with an excess that no other generations had enjoyed and when you combine this with the tech boom we had going into the first decade of this century it created many social issues.

Millennials as a whole got a raw deal. You're right the Boomers benefitted from coming of age in the 25 years post World War II when American supremacy was at its peak. A lot of Boomers graduated into good economies. For the Boomers that graduated into mild recessions during the Ford and Carter presidencies, they had a lot of their careers occur during the Reagan/Clinton booming economy years, which is when they had their Millennial children.

A lot of Boomers were able to get decent factory jobs early in life before offshoring and outsourcing happened. The Boomer generation didn't necessarily need a college degree to get a job, unlike a lot of Millennials. Also, for the Boomers that pursued higher education, higher education cost a lot less when Boomers were going to school. By the time Millennials went to college, college was already more expensive for a lower quality education and you had less plentiful job opportunites. The first half of the Millennials were finishing their education depending upon where they stopped either with the 9/11 recession or the late 2000s/early 2010s recession. The time in between the 9/11 recession and 2008 (Classes of 2003-2007) were not all that amazing either unless you were a real estate broker, banker doing shady loans, or Wall Streeter operating with bad financial instruments that nearly sunk the system in 2008. A lot of the early Millennials (1982-1987) got screwed big time by 2008-2011.

Whenever recessions hit, men get screwed more than women because most men's SMV is tied into their earning potential, unless they are complete deadbeats and get the vag excited as a result of their awesome criminal deadbeat lifestyle. Those men are more exception than rule. When recessions hit, in white collar, the women are often retained at first while the white men (the undesirables and so-called privileged) are the first to get laid off. It's usually the young white men that are the first to get laid off in white collar jobs, followed by the older white men, then minority men. All women are later in the priority order in terms of white collar layoffs. You know a company is in bad shape when they are laying off white collar women in masse. In smaller, more isolated terminations, the woman had to be far more incompetent than her male colleagues to absorb a termination.

When any woman gets laid off, her SMV doesn't take much of a hit. Women's SMV isn't at all tied into their jobs. Some women can actually become better girlfriends after a layoff because she has time to breathe and isn't career obsessed. Some women after a layoff can start porn cam sites (pre-Only Fans this was common) and now OnlyFans in the last few years. There are women who have either supplemented their white collar job income nicely from OnlyFans or replaced their corporate income from OnlyFans.

Growing up I remember video gaming was the norm for other boys my age, where as in the early 90s you'd have to get out of the house and go to the arcade to play. I feel you take some boys who are naturally more introverted and the next thing you know they use video games as a means to keep themselves occupied and they go through high school having never even talked to a girl, gone to prom, etc. I feel that if young men like this don't develop these skills in high school they get a second chance in college, if they even go, but after that it becomes increasingly difficult to overcome these issues. I've overheard so many conversations with even ugly women who'd say they would never date a virgin or inexperienced man. Society as a whole has placed, in my opinion, a lot more demands on men but coddled women like princesses, which I'll get into below.

I am an early Millennial and interacted with 1982-1985 birth years during my high school and college years. During my high school and college years in the late 1990s and early 2000s, it was becoming more common to go through high school without doing much in-person approaching or going to prom. The 1982-1985 birth years were on the first wave of the lot of the things that you illustrated that became even more common in the latter half of the Millennial generation.

Agree completely that there has been a coddling of women while demanding more on men. Women being less likely to get terminated in corporate setting is a part of that coddling.

I feel that social media is ultimately what is to blame for the unhealthy dynamic that women have with themselves. Go on any woman's social media and you'll see constant ego boosting, mostly from her female friends. It's now become acceptable, at least in white America, for women to get tons of tattoos, become fat, a *****, drug user, etc. You now have a bunch of trashy and low quality women but yet due to the current social culture they feel entitled to high quality men. I've heard of stories of overweight women refusing to date men for being overweight. As a 6'4", broad shouldered white man who lifts regularly I've had a couple women point out a fat chick and say to me that is my league and what I should be dating. Even a man like me only gets matched with fat chicks on tinder, last time I checked most men aren't well over 6' nor are they fit/muscular.

All true.

Your league as a 6'4" muscular man is not a fat woman. You deserve at least a normal weight woman and a woman who is at least average looking. A 6'4" muscular guy with a plain looking 5'5" woman who isn't overweight but isn't quite fit is somewhat of a settle job on the part of the man. It's acceptable but totally uninspired.

Women have so many men on social media trying to get with them. Then, if they decide to put themselves out on a swipe app, that number increases a lot. Women also field some amount of in-person approaches depending upon how they look. An average looking, childless 35 year old woman has more in-person options than a man who spends a lot of free time on swipe apps.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Sex twice a week is decent and not pathetic. There's never been a time I thought sex twice a week was bad. I've always thought of that as a baseline for a relationship.

For a short amount time, you would do that. After something like 6 months to a year at most, the sex frequency would diminish to some degree. Cohabitating couples often see their sex lives diminish in both frequency and quality, depending upon how long they live together.

Long term relationships kill libido. It's less common to see couples together for 5 years or more to have active sex lives. In longer term relationships, there is a lot of sex for the first two years. From the 2 year anniversary to the 5 year anniversary, some couples have a good sex life while others start to fade. Mostly everyone has seen sex frequency dip by the 5 year anniversary.

Men who are serial monogamists have good sex lives. Serial monogamists are men who have 1-5 year long relationships in perpetuity from ages 15-55 with limited breaks in between them. So long as you don't put a ring on it (then it becomes a serial monogamy marriage path) or have kids with any of your lovers, you'll have a solid sex life. You'll also deal with a lot of female drama, especially in the downside in all those relationships. It does beat putting a ring on it and having a nasty divorce, as well as beats paying child support to some bitter ex.



Millennials as a whole got a raw deal. You're right the Boomers benefitted from coming of age in the 25 years post World War II when American supremacy was at its peak. A lot of Boomers graduated into good economies. For the Boomers that graduated into mild recessions during the Ford and Carter presidencies, they had a lot of their careers occur during the Reagan/Clinton booming economy years, which is when they had their Millennial children.

A lot of Boomers were able to get decent factory jobs early in life before offshoring and outsourcing happened. The Boomer generation didn't necessarily need a college degree to get a job, unlike a lot of Millennials. Also, for the Boomers that pursued higher education, higher education cost a lot less when Boomers were going to school. By the time Millennials went to college, college was already more expensive for a lower quality education and you had less plentiful job opportunites. The first half of the Millennials were finishing their education depending upon where they stopped either with the 9/11 recession or the late 2000s/early 2010s recession. The time in between the 9/11 recession and 2008 (Classes of 2003-2007) were not all that amazing either unless you were a real estate broker, banker doing shady loans, or Wall Streeter operating with bad financial instruments that nearly sunk the system in 2008. A lot of the early Millennials (1982-1987) got screwed big time by 2008-2011.

Whenever recessions hit, men get screwed more than women because most men's SMV is tied into their earning potential, unless they are complete deadbeats and get the vag excited as a result of their awesome criminal deadbeat lifestyle. Those men are more exception than rule. When recessions hit, in white collar, the women are often retained at first while the white men (the undesirables and so-called privileged) are the first to get laid off. It's usually the young white men that are the first to get laid off in white collar jobs, followed by the older white men, then minority men. All women are later in the priority order in terms of white collar layoffs. You know a company is in bad shape when they are laying off white collar women in masse. In smaller, more isolated terminations, the woman had to be far more incompetent than her male colleagues to absorb a termination.

When any woman gets laid off, her SMV doesn't take much of a hit. Women's SMV isn't at all tied into their jobs. Some women can actually become better girlfriends after a layoff because she has time to breathe and isn't career obsessed. Some women after a layoff can start porn cam sites (pre-Only Fans this was common) and now OnlyFans in the last few years. There are women who have either supplemented their white collar job income nicely from OnlyFans or replaced their corporate income from OnlyFans.



I am an early Millennial and interacted with 1982-1985 birth years during my high school and college years. During my high school and college years in the late 1990s and early 2000s, it was becoming more common to go through high school without doing much in-person approaching or going to prom. The 1982-1985 birth years were on the first wave of the lot of the things that you illustrated that became even more common in the latter half of the Millennial generation.

Agree completely that there has been a coddling of women while demanding more on men. Women being less likely to get terminated in corporate setting is a part of that coddling.



All true.

Your league as a 6'4" muscular man is not a fat woman. You deserve at least a normal weight woman and a woman who is at least average looking. A 6'4" muscular guy with a plain looking 5'5" woman who isn't overweight but isn't quite fit is somewhat of a settle job on the part of the man. It's acceptable but totally uninspired.

Women have so many men on social media trying to get with them. Then, if they decide to put themselves out on a swipe app, that number increases a lot. Women also field some amount of in-person approaches depending upon how they look. An average looking, childless 35 year old woman has more in-person options than a man who spends a lot of free time on swipe apps.

2x a week is pathetic when your lady wants to give it almost every day. If you don't initiate, she will. So backing down from 6-7x a week to 1-2x a week sucks. Going from 1-2 a month to 1-2 a week is a huge upgrade. And comparing to inceldom or many droughts 2x a week is a great core standard.

 

[Velasco]

I have some friends who are maybe considered 'incel' (by the modern definition which no longer seems to mean 'virgin', but someone who very rarely gets laid with hot girls?)

Incel = not having a sex life. Cure to incel is to get a girlfriend. Only takes one girl. Then for variety sake, go to bars and pick up new girls.

don't have the balls to withstand 100's of cold approach rejections (from girls who have their pick of way more handsome guys) before opening an attracted girl

If your shooting way above your looks this might be true. Less likely any of those girls will find you hot (you'll get lucky as you say). If your shooting at or just above your looks, odds are higher one of those girls will find you hot. Reducing the number of rejections it takes to take a girl home.

5's want 9's not girls in the 5's-7's range. Then get pissed when said 9's want 9's not guys in the 5's-7's range.

I believe the high standards in men is due to excessive porn/masturbating. Where anything below a 9 doesnt turn them on. If you go a week without porn/masturbating, go out and drink alcohol while out approaching (increased horny), your standards drop and you end up getting turned on by girls closer to your range, and end up fcking them. Wont impress anyone obvi (as the lucky lays do), but you'll have a sex life/wont be incel, and is that not want you want at the end of the day? (Or maybe impressing others is a higher priority to you than having a sex life)

 

[characternote]

I believe the high standards in men is due to excessive porn/masturbating. Where anything below a 9 doesnt turn them on. If you go a week without porn/masturbating, go out and drink alcohol while out approaching (increased horny), your standards drop and you end up getting turned on by girls closer to your range, and end up fcking them.

Yeah, that likely plays a role.

Wont impress anyone obvi (as the lucky lays do), but you'll have a sex life/wont be incel, and is that not want you want at the end of the day? (Or maybe impressing others is a higher priority to you than having a sex life)

Not sure if 'you' means me or 'people' - I'm not an incel lol. And I don't really care about impressing people, although I do tend to go mainly for girls out of my league and will play the numbers game until I find one who has unusal taste and thinks i'm hot haha
But if you mean 'people', then sure I agree. People should drop their standards some if they aren't happy with never getting laid

The friend i'm thinking of with my last post (well paid accountant, plays football, takes showers (lol) etc) could probably get laid a little bit if he tried more and dropped his standards

 

[corrector]

Yeah, some of the replies have been super blue pill - along the lines of 'take a shower, bro' lol.
I have some friends who are maybe considered 'incel' (by the modern definition which no longer seems to mean 'virgin', but someone who very rarely gets laid with hot girls?)
They have good jobs, play sport/work out etc.
They aren't 300lbs of fat, failing to take showers and spending all day playing fortnite eating lucky charms lol
They're just not good looking enough to get any luck on tinder, and don't have the balls to withstand 100's of cold approach rejections (from girls who have their pick of way more handsome guys) before opening an attracted girl (That's MY superpower and probably the reason i'm not 'incel' lol. Numbers game! haha. Pre covid i'd sometimes approach 50 girls in a night and end up getting lucky!)

What type of rejections do you get from the 50? Harsh ones or you are just ignored or given attitude?

 

[corrector]

Incel = not having a sex life. Cure to incel is to get a girlfriend. Only takes one girl. Then for variety sake, go to bars and pick up new girls.

If your shooting way above your looks this might be true. Less likely any of those girls will find you hot (you'll get lucky as you say). If your shooting at or just above your looks, odds are higher one of those girls will find you hot. Reducing the number of rejections it takes to take a girl home.

5's want 9's not girls in the 5's-7's range. Then get pissed when said 9's want 9's not guys in the 5's-7's range.

I believe the high standards in men is due to excessive porn/masturbating. Where anything below a 9 doesnt turn them on. If you go a week without porn/masturbating, go out and drink alcohol while out approaching (increased horny), your standards drop and you end up getting turned on by girls closer to your range, and end up fcking them. Wont impress anyone obvi (as the lucky lays do), but you'll have a sex life/wont be incel, and is that not want you want at the end of the day? (Or maybe impressing others is a higher priority to you than having a sex life)

That is total bs. Most incels are good with an hb 5 or higher. People making all sorts of nonsence assumptions that are not true.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Incels described in one image:

 

[characternote]

What type of rejections do you get from the 50? Harsh ones or you are just ignored or given attitude?

not 'usually' harsh. (although have certainly had some brutal ones lol) - Mainly just semi ignored/one word answers whilst looking away etc.
No big deal and to be expected. If you're not her type, you're not her type. Move on to the next!

 

[corrector]

Hmmm....I think it depends on the definition of the word 'incel'

When I first heard the term like 5 years ago or whatever, it definitely meant a virgin. An adult who had just no chance of getting laid due to a mixture of being ugly and also maybe autism or whatever. No social skills and not good looking enough for 'game' to help, anyway. But certainly a virgin (discounting hookers)

More recently, the definition of the word seems to have changed into one where 'incel' is basically someone who isn't enjoying a great sex life with various hot girls lol. That basically means that nearly all of the guys I know are incels (e.g - they don't get laid much, and they certainly can't just bang most hot girls they want). So 'incel' = 'non chad' lol. So yeah, basically everyone

But this (definition changing) could be a way for legit incels to cope and try to group everyone in with them. I must have banged 40+ girls from cold approach, and i'm pretty sure i'm an 'incel' according to some peoples definitions lol (very low odds of banging the hot girls I go after. Decently long spells without sex etc)

But personally, i'lll always think of an incel as a virgin, basically. And even with that definition, I tihnk I have a handful of friends who fit my definition of incel tbh lol (i've got an extremely varied group of friends in different 'groups')

The defination changed in 2014 when I got married and divorced later that same year.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Incel = not having a sex life. Cure to incel is to get a girlfriend. Only takes one girl. Then for variety sake, go to bars and pick up new girls.

If your shooting way above your looks this might be true. Less likely any of those girls will find you hot (you'll get lucky as you say). If your shooting at or just above your looks, odds are higher one of those girls will find you hot. Reducing the number of rejections it takes to take a girl home.

5's want 9's not girls in the 5's-7's range. Then get pissed when said 9's want 9's not guys in the 5's-7's range.

I believe the high standards in men is due to excessive porn/masturbating. Where anything below a 9 doesnt turn them on. If you go a week without porn/masturbating, go out and drink alcohol while out approaching (increased horny), your standards drop and you end up getting turned on by girls closer to your range, and end up fcking them. Wont impress anyone obvi (as the lucky lays do), but you'll have a sex life/wont be incel, and is that not want you want at the end of the day? (Or maybe impressing others is a higher priority to you than having a sex life)

Some alcohol and the bros

If I had a live in gf that I was attracted to I'd be laying pipe every day.

IF she let you...

 

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

Some alcohol and the bros

IF she let you...

mine would let me...
except im tired of the broad

 

[Blacksheep]

Being an incel isn't something someone should be proud of and i'm not defending these guys but women constantly insult men as incels when they are criticised.

Women are basically shaming men who do not belong to the 20 percent of sexually successfull men while ANY woman can have sex at any time. This is a gender difference because for men it takes effort to have sex while for women there is almost no effort. Women attack incels because they point out the fact that there are gender differences and they expose their hypocrisy.

It's also a fact that Incels are not necessarily unattractive. Many men are at least average or attractive and they still don't have a sex life. Women have none of these problems even if they are fat af, broke, ugly af, drug addicts etc. doesn't matter how low they are, they have always options when it comes to sex.

Again, i don't like whining incels but they do have a point and all these women insulting them and attacking them are tolerated even encouraged to do so. That's a big double standard.

Incels are celebrating lockdown because attractive people can’t have casual sex

On popular forums like 4chan and Reddit, involuntary celibates are flocking to rejoice at people forced to live sexless lives – like them.

www.newstatesman.com

Our culture doesnt nurture respect as a principle.

Just take a look hoe society works and you will understand why our humanity is getting lost.

People say they want to be loved, but in fact this love means intimacy with the hottest ones. Women and men... They both do it.

Look at social media and how it benefit people showing their bodies and how people are reacting at it. Im not saying we shouldnt feel attracted, cause of course its attractive.

Our animal side seems to be more present in todays society... The part that controls that animal is not being cultivated. So we behave more instinctively.

 

[SW15]

I think the pseudo-incel population is larger than the incel population. However, we are seeing an increase in male sexlessness, which relates to both incels and pseudo incels. Guys in Group 4 below can go over a year without sex.

Who are pseudo incels? They come from a wide range of circumstances. These are the guys I identify as psuedo-incels. Some of the groups overlap.

1. Married men with marriages of 5 years or longer. This is the largest group of pseudo-incels. They blend in well in society. They are very mainstream. The early parts of marriages tend to have regular sex but sex frequency drops off around the third anniversary of marriage (usually the 5-6 year point of the relationship in point), kids or no kids. Some men can get their marriage to the 5 year mark before the sex drop off. Married men with marriages of 5 years or longer often have kids too. Kid-related activities get in the way of regular sex. In long term relationships, women's libidos drop. Being more alpha can extend the period before the drop off but it will happen. As relationship progress, men tend to get more beta.

These married men are still getting laid, but it's less frequently than they desire and definitely not what they signed up for when they put a ring on it.

Not all marriages are like this, but a lot of marriages are like this. Most of the sex in marriages is earlier in the marriages. This is why the statistics say that there's more sex in marriage than non-marriage. The early stage marriage people are skewing the data and there are a lot of unattached betas who struggle to get laid.

2. Any man in a long term relationship (5+ years) co-habitating with a woman. Many men enter co-habitation relationships (ring or no ring) expecting the sex will increase. For a short time, it does. When the novelty wears off, there's a sex drop off.

3. Men who rely upon escorts or sugar babies to get laid. This is a small-ish group compared to Group 1 but it might be growing fast due to the growth of Seeking (formerly Seeking Arrangement) and sugar dating as a whole. Higher income and/or net worth is required to be in this group.

4. Beta males who get some relationships but often suffer long droughts in between relationships. 80% of men are betas. There are plenty of beta males who get married. There are also betas who don't manage to get married but get in extended relationships who are uninspiring as marriage options for women. Both divorced men and never married men can fall in this group.

 

[Baibars]

I think the pseudo-incel population is larger than the incel population. However, we are seeing an increase in male sexlessness, which relates to both incels and pseudo incels. Guys in Group 4 below can go over a year without sex.

Who are pseudo incels? They come from a wide range of circumstances. These are the guys I identify as psuedo-incels. Some of the groups overlap.

1. Married men with marriages of 5 years or longer. This is the largest group of pseudo-incels. They blend in well in society. They are very mainstream. The early parts of marriages tend to have regular sex but sex frequency drops off around the third anniversary of marriage (usually the 5-6 year point of the relationship in point), kids or no kids. Some men can get their marriage to the 5 year mark before the sex drop off. Married men with marriages of 5 years or longer often have kids too. Kid-related activities get in the way of regular sex. In long term relationships, women's libidos drop. Being more alpha can extend the period before the drop off but it will happen. As relationship progress, men tend to get more beta.

These married men are still getting laid, but it's less frequently than they desire and definitely not what they signed up for when they put a ring on it.

Not all marriages are like this, but a lot of marriages are like this. Most of the sex in marriages is earlier in the marriages. This is why the statistics say that there's more sex in marriage than non-marriage. The early stage marriage people are skewing the data and there are a lot of unattached betas who struggle to get laid.

2. Any man in a long term relationship (5+ years) co-habitating with a woman. Many men enter co-habitation relationships (ring or no ring) expecting the sex will increase. For a short time, it does. When the novelty wears off, there's a sex drop off.

3. Men who rely upon escorts or sugar babies to get laid. This is a small-ish group compared to Group 1 but it might be growing fast due to the growth of Seeking (formerly Seeking Arrangement) and sugar dating as a whole. Higher income and/or net worth is required to be in this group.

4. Beta males who get some relationships but often suffer long droughts in between relationships. 80% of men are betas. There are plenty of beta males who get married. There are also betas who don't manage to get married but get in extended relationships who are uninspiring as marriage options for women. Both divorced men and never married men can fall in this group.

That’s right. Most men believe that those „incels“ are all fat ugly guys who play video games all day and complain. That’s just not a fact. Especially women like to call all kinds of men incels when they criticise them or the dating market because it’s rigged.

Only the top 10 % of guys are not called incels because they have extreme abundance and calling them incels would be insane. Average looking guy with low-average success with women? That already makes you an incel misogynistic loser and we have more average men living on this planet than ever before.

 

[Bigpapa]

That’s right. Most men believe that those „incels“ are all fat ugly guys who play video games all day and complain. That’s just not a fact. Especially women like to call all kinds of men incels when they criticise them or the dating market because it’s rigged.

Only the top 10 % of guys are not called incels because they have extreme abundance and calling them incels would be insane. Average looking guy with low-average success with women? That already makes you an incel misogynistic loser and we have more average men living on this planet than ever before.

I would say that the overall problem is that guys gave up power in order to get p8ssy

if you talk with women , it is Normal for them to want to sleep and date only the top guys , because they do not understand their smv ( a lot of male thirst - if a lot of guys are thirsty after me then it means that I am hot ) and because of the new female mentality that it is imposed by society ( nothing but the best )

there is no coincidence that women are unhappier now Than ever , but in the same time they are followers of the society , and would continue doing things as they are considered normal as they do not want to be outcasts

so again , guys have to men up , they are the ones who let things go out of control so they should be the ones to fix

they have no right to complain about how bad things are

 

[corrector]

so again , guys have to men up , they are the ones who let things go out of control so they should be the ones to fix

I thought it was technology and dating apps/internet. Man up is convenient way of saying be the 10% or a mass MTGOW/monk mode and stop buying into onlyfans, etc... to stifle the thirst demand that is wrecking everything?