oakraiderz2 said:
What are you comparing this too? You just sound like a frustrated chump. Meeting a girl one night and taking her back and boning her with no strings attatched is pretty bad ass, not that you would know. But it is cool to have sex with a girl you like and chilling afterward, once again, not like you know.
haha, so I sound like a frusterated chump because I'm not desperate for ass and would rather have fun with a girl. There's more to women than sex. And thus there's more to life than woman.
This site is about being a man and learning to attract women, you should've posted this topic on FriendZone.org.
I loved the part where you compared the certainty of banging a chick with the possibility of hanging out with her.
You were onto something in the first couple of sentences, but then you derailed after that, and then every point on your train of thought died a horrible death when you said "Now I've never had sex,..."
Now I know that being open and honest is important and always a key to great relationship, BUT are you really being honest if you are trying to friend your way into a relationship/FB???? NOOOOOOOO!
As Sin said the two aren't mutually exclusive. Though gun to my head, I'd choose the sex over being a seen as therapist every time.
You're looking at it the wrong way though. Being a man is more than being able to pull ass. If you want to just be able to pull ass become a player. You fail to realize that it's the fact you're not desperate for sex that attracts them. And you're trying to say you can't be honest with a girl and still pull her? Heh.
You don't realize that it's not the lines that pulls the chicks, but a man with TRUE confidence. A dude with true confidence in himself doesn't need any lines or techniques and he can go up there and pull her simply by saying hi and socializing with her. And being yourself, isn't being a p*ssy, it isn't being an AFC. If you're being an AFC, you're not truly being yourself because you're still afraid and unconfident with yourself.
You have the misinterpretation that if you actually have genuine fun with a girl, you can't pull her, not true. Infact the reason most guys don't pull is because they're being ingenuine or she can tell you're being fake. Infact it's the guys that go into sets TRULY being themselves, not caring if they mess up or not caring if the chick doesn't like them, that pull the most chicks. Most dudes just care about pulling ass rather than having genuine fun with her, before pulling the ass. That way, it doesn't come off as you talking to her just cause she was sexy.
(OP) Major AFC post, or hasn't read the DJ bible. Read more, post a hell of a lot less.
AFC are you ignorant? Being real and honest with a girl is not AFC. An AFC is a man who has fear and is afraid of what the women thinks. He is not truly comfortable in his own skin as a confident man is. An AFC doesn't know "himself" as well as a confident man. An AFC doesn't subcommunicate anywhere near as well as a confident man does. Tell me? Have you ever tried to go into a set, with no gameplan but being confident and in the moment? Probably not. But most of the experienced guys can do that. You'd be surprised how much better sets would go if you just forgot about the outcome and had a good time with her. So AFC? No, infact guys who are TRULY being real when they approach and are TRULY confident, pull much more ass than you players who go up there, all ingenuine in stuff, using some line you probably learned on the board.
nailed it. Also the original posters fear is obvious and on display for all to see. He has that "I'd settle for being her friend than risk trying to fock her and failing". He's afraid to fail. Failure is how you learn. Embrace failure OP. Stop being scared or live like this with no sex....
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You just did the 7th sin, putting words in my mouth as I've never said anything CLOSE to this. The point of the OP post is basically, when you approach her, actually focus on having a good time with her BEFORE you pull her. You'll only get friend zone if DURING this fun interaction, you don't use kino or try to escalate. So basically if you're having a nice, genuine time with her and you get friend zoned, that's because you didn't escalate.
Very real with them?
I'll tell you what's real. Waking up the next morning after plumbing through a woman's insides. The look on their faces are priceless when they get up the next morning next to your studly self.
Next thing you know, she's asking you if you want breakfast.
"Oh no, I think I'm ok."
"Oh, but WC I'll pay don't worry!"
As I'm feeling her snatch up on the way out of my place, I'm fantasizing about my free eggs and battered pancakes, reminding me of the battering I laid on her the night before.
And see, at breakfast we will do some real vibing. Not some let's be friends and get to know eachother vibing; but some sexual vibing. I'll find out more about that girl in a 30 minute breakfast than her father ever knew about her his whole life.
A few days later she will be calling me to get to know me better. I'll tell her that if she wants to know me better, she's welcome to come by--- later tonight.
And so the cycle continues.
And what did I miss out on? Getting to know her major in college or where she grew up?
Don't worry, I will find those things out indeed if I want to. But I don't necessarily want to know these things. If she proves to me she is a quality catch then maybe I will ask one day.
But for now I like to keep it slam-bam-thank you mam.
So tell me, is all the effort to befriend a woman before sex really worth it?
But you fail to see the point that there is more to girls than getting in their pants. You'd be surprised how fun some girls can be when you actually get to know them. And being genuine with them, actually does make it easier to get in their pants because you're just having a good time and NOT trying to get in her pants. It seems the more the girl KNOWS you want to f*ck her, the less chance it has of happening. Sure you can still do your one night stands if you want and that's okay. But after the sex, you could still talk to her as a friend and probably a f*ckbuddy. Even as you have sex with other girls, you could talk to this girl, because you'd be talking to her because she's cool and you wouldn't even see her as a potential sex interest anymore. And if you're having difficulty befriending, you're trying too hard, overthinking it and probably not being real.
So basically you can trick her, then f*ck her or you can have a nice time with her, then f*ck her. It's all up to you.
