Why don't we call women out on their sh!t?

[Atom Smasher]

I read on here a lot about sh!t tests and how we're never supposed to get "mad" at women, and that we should just act unaffected by their sh!t.

But when we do that, aren't we conditioning them to act like entitled little brats? It's like we're not supposed to hold them accountable for their behavior.

Why do we not show them that there are consequences for their behavior? Right now, they know that there are almost no consequences, and it seems like we are perpetuating that.

 

[Falcon25]

Because there are hundreds behind you that are ready to go once you act emotional. You can't call out someone that has options. You just hope that they like you more than you like them. Then she is yours for life. They can get whatever they want. So stay strong, healthy, make money, so that you too can have options.

 

[Bluntmaster]

Because there are hundreds behind you that are ready to go once you act emotional. You can't call out someone that has options. You just hope that they like you more than you like them. Then she is yours for life. They can get whatever they want. So stay strong, healthy, make money, so that you too can have options.

Yep this is true. I called my girl out on her ways and she hopped on another **** the very next day and wants to just be friends.

 

[Strelok]

If you treat a woman the same way you would treat a man you risk to suffer thanks to laws made to "defend" women.

You know those same laws that should make people egual in front of the law (sarcasm mode on).
And of course also what falcon said,even if i dont see it as the worst damage.

 

[Bluntmaster]

If you treat a woman the same way you would treat a man you risk to suffer thanks to laws made to "defend" women.

You know those same laws that should make people egual in front of the law (sarcasm mode on).
And of course also what falcon said,even if i dont see it as the worst damage.

I was ready to dump my girl for her ways so I decided calling her out was the best option. She left and saved me the trouble of dumping her.

Call her out if you are ready to get rid of her.

 

[Atom Smasher]

I hear what you guys are saying, but doesn't that just make us beggars with a scarcity mindset?

It seems to me that if a man can't get a girl emotionally hooked on him and dependent on him, she's not worth having unless it's just about s3x.

I'm open to be corrected in my thinking, but right now it seems like I'm sacrificing integrity if I just let a woman sh!t all over me and not respond by holding her accountable. I do realize that people who try to live by principal often have a hard time, but I wonder if it's worth it to pay the price by taking the high road. It repulses me to think that we are conditioning women to degenerate even further by conditioning them to think there are no consequences to their arrogant actions. It appears to me that we have turned our backs on integrity in order to get a little tail.

 

[sodbuster]

We need to get ALL men on board,not just us few.

 

[Atom Smasher]

That's just it. Things can only get worse if we just accept their bratty and arrogant behavior and their sense of entitlement.

Whatever happened to the idea of men living and dying and sacrificing by principal? It's like we've all given up and are just meekly accepting the way things are in the hope that we might be granted an occasional piece of candy. As each day goes by, it seems we are further perpetuating this behavior. It is OUR fault, if you ask me. Is s3x more important than integrity and authentic manhhod, by which I mean setting borders and parameters and expecting and demanding that they be respected?

 

[ArcBound]

I read on here a lot about sh!t tests and how we're never supposed to get "mad" at women, and that we should just act unaffected by their sh!t.

But when we do that, aren't we conditioning them to act like entitled little brats? It's like we're not supposed to hold them accountable for their behavior.

Why do we not show them that there are consequences for their behavior? Right now, they know that there are almost no consequences, and it seems like we are perpetuating that.

Well women are covert it is not like they are going to make it blatantly obvious it is a **** test. They leave it ambiguous enough so that they can deny it and turn the tables on you. If you call them out on it you can make things worse.. Plus people perpetuate it because aside from sites like this no one really knows what a sh!t test is anyways. So even if we have say, the maybe 100,000 people on this site who KNOW what a **** test even is, what number can actually consistently tell when they are being sh!t tested? And all men would have to be onboard like someone said for **** tests to end...

 

[lakeshore]

Its all about HOW MUCH she likes you. If she reaaally likes you then
you probably wont need to call her out on her sh*t that much because
there will not be too many games. And when there are, you can call
her out on them, she won't go anywhere.

If you call a girl out on her sh*t and she rolls out she had no
interest in you anyway and was probably looking for an excuse to
leave.

 

[Atom Smasher]

I feel that if we're not getting them emotionally dependent on us then we're not doing our jobs. Looking back, every time I've had a girlfriend I've called her out on her sh!t and I've always been the one to break up, because she was "hooked" on me.

I know that some guys here are just looking for one nighters and quick validation, while others are looking for a real relationship. Nothing wrong with either. But if you're looking for a relationship, you'd better make sure you wear the pants and set those boundaries. If she has "options", then we haven't set the stage properly. She should be emotionally dependent and saying and feeling that she "needs" you. This is vitally important in a LTR. You, on the other hand, must NEVER tell her that you need her (I say that for the sake of the youngsters). That is one of the prime respect killers. But I digress.

Naturally, this doesn't apply if a guy is just looking for some recreational s3x. Then, she will have options and I guess those guys are forced to put up with that sh!t. For myself, I can't bear the thought of perpetuating the very sorry state of affairs we find ourselves in. I would rather stay alone, and maybe I will have to, but if I have to pay a high price in order to be a part of restoring the natural order, then so be it. The way things are now with the shear arrogance of women (at least American women) is nothing short of disgusting.

 

[Kailex]

Silence is silver.
The view of your back as you easily walk away from her is golden.

 

[46and2aheadofme]

I hear what you guys are saying, but doesn't that just make us beggars with a scarcity mindset?

It seems to me that if a man can't get a girl emotionally hooked on him and dependent on him, she's not worth having unless it's just about s3x.

I'm open to be corrected in my thinking, but right now it seems like I'm sacrificing integrity if I just let a woman sh!t all over me and not respond by holding her accountable. I do realize that people who try to live by principal often have a hard time, but I wonder if it's worth it to pay the price by taking the high road. It repulses me to think that we are conditioning women to degenerate even further by conditioning them to think there are no consequences to their arrogant actions. It appears to me that we have turned our backs on integrity in order to get a little tail.

You hold her accountable by showing her the door.

 

[The Mad Ghost]

I read on here a lot about sh!t tests and how we're never supposed to get "mad" at women, and that we should just act unaffected by their sh!t.

But when we do that, aren't we conditioning them to act like entitled little brats? It's like we're not supposed to hold them accountable for their behavior.

Why do we not show them that there are consequences for their behavior? Right now, they know that there are almost no consequences, and it seems like we are perpetuating that.

I totally agree with everything you said here, however I am in the % of those guys who are looking for one night stands and eventually progressing into a relationship, but you're arguement is going up going up against death ears brother. It's not until the whole car takes action can we actually reset the order. You've been a registered member since '08, what brang you to thread this now? Just out of curiousity?

 

[Atom Smasher]

Silence is silver.
The view of your back as you easily walk away from her is golden.

True that. They must have an understanding that you are willing and able to walk away.

 

[Atom Smasher]

You hold her accountable by showing her the door.

True, but it seems like lots of the advice on this forum is all about not reacting to her behavior. I can understand that for the small stuff, but when the arrogance and entitlement rears its ugly head, it seems to me the proper thing to do is to quash it. Anything less is only perpetuating it, just like a parent who spoils a child and lets it have its tantrums. The child is in charge.

And believe me, there is not much difference between a child and a woman. In fact, they have to be treated as children, by and large. They need to be corrected and occasionally punished (withdrawal of attention). Anything less and they will run roughshod right over you.

 

[WORKEROUTER]

You should always call a women out on her sh*t so that she learns that you don't put up with it. But you need to do it in a ****y+funny sort of way, with a little bit of wit and humour. That will give you the upperhand and make her realize that you will not tolerate crap.

 

[OFWHAP]

Unless she's a long-term girlfriend or wife, it really doesn't do you any good to actually call her out. It's not as though she won't find some other guy who will put up with her nonsense. On the other hand, she'll probably go around and tell all her girlfriends that you're a drama queen and overly sensitive. Now that every girl she knows think you're a girl too, where do you stand?

 

[GetOveIT]

***** wiped comes to mind....

 

[hansol]

You're assuming that when you call a chick out, she is going to think about it RATIONALLY and go from there. Unfortunately, I have yet to meet a woman who, when told that she is acting like a selfish tart, reacts rationally to it.

As guys, we go "Wait, you know what, that makes sense. Sorry dude." and that's the end of it. Women go: "Me? Not Perfect? *thinking thinking* Nah.. That's silly. You're just being an *******." and off they go.

Don't expect irrational beings to react to logic or rationality. It took me a while to figure that one out, but it seems to hold true so far.