Why does this site advocate spinning plates instead of relationships

[Zarky]

Why does this site advocate spinning plates instead of relationships

Because I wanna f*ck lots of girls? Is this a trick question?

 

[corrector]

It does not matter how good looking or rich you are. It's hard enough for me to get one girl, but four, that's nearly impossible.

It doesn't really matter how good looking or rich you are? Is that a joke? A good looking person just has to put a profile on the internet and all his problems are solved. Rich, ditto, plenty of gold-diggers and sugar-daddy websites around. I think if you are low status type of guy or are average looking that doesn't have a charismatic personality that it would be difficult to spin plate. Especially you can't relate with women that much in the first place then it takes a special type of woman to understand you. How can you spin plates then?

Look at the Italian PM Bulusconi, he has no problem spinning plates.

 

[DJ7]

Insecurity in men is conditioned by society. Post modern decaying feminized society. Society wants you to be insecure

Hey. I really like this thread, and espacially this last conclusion. Why do you think so? Any book you would recommend on this topic?

 

[SirFratserlot]

Any man that thinks wealthy men are drowning in poon is just insecure and blaming his troubles on something else.

 

[floydb25]

Any man that thinks wealthy men are drowning in poon is just insecure and blaming his troubles on something else.

This is projection at its finest. As far as I can tell, the only insecure one blaming his troubles on someone else is YOU. Saying that wealthy, high status, good looking guys having it easy isn't a form of hatred or envy or resentment - it's just a fact. I've seen and experienced it personally. And don't give me that racial BS, because I'm middle eastern and had no troubles attracting good looking women. What attracted them WAS these three things - and they even admitted it. "You look like a player; you look like money; you're very attractive; you turn me on; you have a nice car"... All shallow, superficial ****... even down to the body parts they commented on (ie, "nice ass"), and the interests they had (ie, mainly sexual). And they DO literally throw themselves at you - without any class or respect - if they find you "hot", with a lot of money, of great social ability and likeability - only to pull a complete 180 once they find out you're not rich, don't date a lot of women, or aren't respected by your peers, or whatever shallow criteria they have for you.

 

[cordoncordon]

OP you have to realize that this site is basically a site for men who have had troubles while dating women, and for men who can't get date women period. It used to be a site for the overall growth of man, the betterment of man, but lately has become just a giant how to guide on 'how to fawk as many women as possible while hating women at the same time'. The majority of men who post here nowadays have been scorned by women, some their entire lives, and so as a result they are very jaded, very anti women, very anti relationship. They just want to stick their cawk in as many holes as possible regardless of the circumstances. So you are not going to find too many men here who are positive on women and relationships. There are other websites for that.

I am not making a judgement either way on this, just stating facts as they presently are.

 

[floydb25]

OP you have to realize that this site is basically a site for men who have had troubles while dating women, and for men who can't get date women period. It used to be a site for the overall growth of man, the betterment of man, but lately has become just a giant how to guide on 'how to fawk as many women as possible while hating women at the same time'. The majority of men who post here nowadays have been scorned by women, some their entire lives, and so as a result they are very jaded, very anti women, very anti relationship. They just want to stick their cawk in as many holes as possible regardless of the circumstances. So you are not going to find too many men here who are positive on women and relationships. There are other websites for that.

I am not making a judgement either way on this, just stating facts as they presently are.

Can't disagree entirely... but for some of us, it's not an issue of attracting women, or landing dates, but finding out what they're really like once you do, and what really attracts them... even as you've been on both ends of the spectrum at different times. Reality is harsh; it's a shallow world out there. Not that most of us are any better... But the red pill can be difficult to swallow. A lot of what you might THINK would work, or what people are looking for, and are like - simply isn't the case. Even as they're complaining (about the same things they are), feeling entitled, having double standards, contradicting themselves, etc... especially when you don't realize it. Then it's like, **** this!

 

[PlayHer Man]

OP you have to realize that this site is basically a site for men who have had troubles while dating women, and for men who can't get date women period. It used to be a site for the overall growth of man, the betterment of man, but lately has become just a giant how to guide on 'how to fawk as many women as possible while hating women at the same time'. The majority of men who post here nowadays have been scorned by women, some their entire lives, and so as a result they are very jaded, very anti women, very anti relationship. They just want to stick their cawk in as many holes as possible regardless of the circumstances. So you are not going to find too many men here who are positive on women and relationships. There are other websites for that.

I am not making a judgement either way on this, just stating facts as they presently are.

See you've got it all wrong. Its not about being positive vs. negative towards women and relationships --> Its about REALITY.

Its about understanding the climate of the modern world and doing what's in your best interest. There was a time when marriage and commitment was in a man's best interest. Even today there are a few rare situations where it still is. But overall its NOT.

Today, for most men.. spinning plates or having a FWB situation is what's in his best interest. This is not being "negative" this is being realistic.

Toyota has a legacy for making cheap and reliable cars. So for many people its in their best interest to drive a Toyota. But if suddenly, Toyota started making crappy, unreliable cars.. would it be "negative" or "jaded" to admit its not worth buying a Toyota? NO. You are simply looking at the reality of the CURRENT situation and doing what's in your best interest.

 

[cordoncordon]

See you've got it all wrong. Its not about being positive vs. negative towards women and relationships --> Its about REALITY.

Its about understanding the climate of the modern world and doing what's in your best interest. There was a time when marriage and commitment was in a man's best interest. Even today there are a few rare situations where it still is. But overall its NOT.

Today, for most men.. spinning plates or having a FWB situation is what's in his best interest. This is not being "negative" this is being realistic.

Toyota has a legacy for making cheap and reliable cars. So for many people its in their best interest to drive a Toyota. But if suddenly, Toyota started making crappy, unreliable cars.. would it be "negative" or "jaded" to admit its not worth buying a Toyota? NO. You are simply looking at the reality of the CURRENT situation and doing what's in your best interest.

Good points, but you are assuming that your reality (sexing as many girls as possible) is what is best for just about everyone. That is a big assumption. And not a true assumption imo. It is for younger guys and guys just getting out of a LTR, but for everyone else? The importance of fawking multiple girls at once loses its luster and significance.

 

[backbreaker]

cord lol that asain chick is puttin it on you thick lol.

that's good though man you got you one that is a keeper obviously. at the end of the day you are happy that's what matters.

 

[floydb25]

See you've got it all wrong. Its not about being positive vs. negative towards women and relationships --> Its about REALITY.

Its about understanding the climate of the modern world and doing what's in your best interest. There was a time when marriage and commitment was in a man's best interest. Even today there are a few rare situations where it still is. But overall its NOT.

Today, for most men.. spinning plates or having a FWB situation is what's in his best interest. This is not being "negative" this is being realistic.

Toyota has a legacy for making cheap and reliable cars. So for many people its in their best interest to drive a Toyota. But if suddenly, Toyota started making crappy, unreliable cars.. would it be "negative" or "jaded" to admit its not worth buying a Toyota? NO. You are simply looking at the reality of the CURRENT situation and doing what's in your best interest.

Agreed... and it's not even a matter of being selfish or a jerkface. It's what a lot of women are looking for, and respond to themselves. If being a relationship-minded nice guy was actually effective, and what women were actually responding to - there wouldn't be so much complaining or dating tactics around. Going that route is a waste of time and emotions, and doesn't attract anyone anyway, and you don't get the crazy thrills or passion, AND you inevitably lose yourself to, and get held back from another. Lose-lose-lose-lose.

I'd argue the same thing for friendships, too. It's best to fly solo in all walks, IMO.

 

[CaptCommando]

We men benefit from controlling our partners in relationships and it has always been like this throughout human history. Now that feminism and women's rights have came up, women are free to ride the **** carousel anytime they please. Well, people are trying to convince us to play the women game by spinning plates. I'm sorry, but women will always have the upper-hand in polygamous/no string attached relationships. We are trying to out play them in a game they already have an advantage over. This is not a good strategy whatsoever. It does not matter how good looking or rich you are. It's hard enough for me to get one girl, but four, that's nearly impossible. Don't even try to say my game is not good enough because 75% of the **** yall say is inflated and yall are using dating sites too. It's our masculine instincts to be protective and insecure of our women.

Seems like an afc mentality. Already admitting defeat, although I do not know your situation. Spinning plates, as mentioned in a previous post, is more than just woman you can take out. It is backups or option if you will, to do something as simple as take a walk or have company for a period of time when YOU want it. Without spinning, you risk getting caught up and do these things when THEY want it.

 

[JoeMarron]

Agreed... and it's not even a matter of being selfish or a jerkface. It's what a lot of women are looking for, and respond to themselves. If being a relationship-minded nice guy was actually effective, and what women were actually responding to - there wouldn't be so much complaining or dating tactics around. Going that route is a waste of time and emotions, and doesn't attract anyone anyway, and you don't get the crazy thrills or passion, AND you inevitably lose yourself to, and get held back from another. Lose-lose-lose-lose.

I'd argue the same thing for friendships, too. It's best to fly solo in all walks, IMO.

Could you elaborate on this? Are you saying that pursuing meaningful relationships with anyone, even close male friends is just gonna hold a man back? I'm quite cynical but this is taking things a bit too far. Humanity is pretty fked up but I'd like to believe there's still trustworthy people out there. As long as a man never fully depend on anyone but himself he can allow himself to build close relationships with other people.

 

[corrector]

It is all a looks and status thing again. If you have no issue getting women to hang-out or date you then it's a no-brainer not to settle to deal with just one woman. If you have a difficult time then it's a very hard effort to spin plates and you'll feel even more bad about yourself with the girl you are with, especially if she has options and can move on easily to another guy while you are getting dissed or rejected.

Now, the OP obviously has a problem getting a date in the first place. So, spinning plates would have to mean more like having a passion in life that makes you so happy that you forget about women, or booking an escort while you are dating a girl (i.e. if you would do that if you are single) if it's that difficult. Otherwise if you tell someone who is already hard up to get a woman in the first place, and they land a woman, to make 100 approaches or do something crazy and it all fails then how would that make them feel?

 

[SirFratserlot]

What is this? My dad is a millionaire and I am in a college fraternity. Plus, I am financially stable without my dad's help and I have a car. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I have gotten job offers from Hollister/Abercrombie because I had the look. Status check, money check, looks check, girls hell no. Don't say I don't project myself enough either because I've already tried that. I have similar friends in the same position. Girls just like indirect qualities that I just don't know about.

 

[floydb25]

What is this? My dad is a millionaire and I am in a college fraternity. Plus, I am financially stable without my dad's help and I have a car. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I have gotten job offers from Hollister/Abercrombie because I had the look. Status check, money check, looks check, girls hell no. Don't say I don't project myself enough either because I've already tried that. I have similar friends in the same position. Girls just like indirect qualities that I just don't know about.

Then it's gotta be your appearance, personality, social ability, and/or attitude. Maybe you lack the confidence, and don't seem like a cool, popular, social kind of guy who stands out. Chicks dig guys who look and act like players and/or bad boys - ESPECIALLY if you're looking for sex. Laid back, stand offish, ****y, but still socially adept and able to conversate easily. If you have all that money, buy some pimp gear that looks great and stands out.

A lot changes once you look and act a certain way. Definitely don't be normal and decent if you want to fit into certain crowds and attract hotties. You gotta basically be just like them. That means NOT whining and acting like a failure, but a cool, likeable, in-demand, take charge kind of guy. Definitely don't be afraid or act insecure - even if you don't get ****. Perception is more important than reality.

 

[zinc4]

If you live in a big city and can't get many plates than you are either not trying, not good looking or have no game.....and it doesn't matter if you meet them online, out clubbing a book store or at a funeral for that matter...a plate is a plate.

 

[floydb25]

If you live in a big city and can't get many plates than you are either not trying, not good looking or have no game.....and it doesn't matter if you meet them online, out clubbing a book store or at a funeral for that matter...a plate is a plate.

I agree... his situation doesn't make any sense at all. As a good looking guy - chicks always look, approach, smile, conversate, want to be around me, etc. And especially up north - where they were very aggressive with sexual interest, flirting, etc (it's more reserved and traditional and classy down here). Didn't have to do or say anything... just leave the house. Didn't always look all that great (appearance wise), either. A lot of times, I just kept to myself, and even avoided bishes - which just made them even more intrigued... even as other guys were hounding them down and acting like overly aggressive, annoying douche bags with no personality or social skills. Always was stand offish, and let them come to me... and had no problems.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Then it's gotta be your appearance, personality, social ability, and/or attitude. Maybe you lack the confidence, and don't seem like a cool, popular, social kind of guy who stands out. Chicks dig guys who look and act like players and/or bad boys - ESPECIALLY if you're looking for sex. Laid back, stand offish, ****y, but still socially adept and able to conversate easily. If you have all that money, buy some pimp gear that looks great and stands out.

A lot changes once you look and act a certain way. Definitely don't be normal and decent if you want to fit into certain crowds and attract hotties. You gotta basically be just like them. That means NOT whining and acting like a failure, but a cool, likeable, in-demand, take charge kind of guy. Definitely don't be afraid or act insecure - even if you don't get ****. Perception is more important than reality.

This is true. Most girls want to tame the beast. HB8+ women experience instant submission from the majority of men. This is boring. They yearn for a man that challenges them and even scares them a little.

All you have to do is be a little reckless, bold and indifferent towards women to see a dramatic change in how they respond to you.

For instance.. I can recall a few weekends ago when I went clubbing and asked this girl to dance. She said "NO" because she was tired and her feet hurt . So what did I do? I grabbed her hand and dragged her to the dance floor ANYWAY. Next thing you know she is grinding on me and all over me.

There are thousands of examples like this. I don't care what the woman wants.. I just care what I want. I'm usually rewarded for this selfish outlook more than the kinder beta faggots.

 

[floydb25]

This is true. Most girls want to tame the beast. HB8+ women experience instant submission from the majority of men. This is boring. They yearn for a man that challenges them and even scares them a little.

All you have to do is be a little reckless, bold and indifferent towards women to see a dramatic change in how they respond to you.

For instance.. I can recall a few weekends ago when I went clubbing and asked this girl to dance. She said "NO" because she was tired and her feet hurt . So what did I do? I grabbed her hand and dragged her to the dance floor ANYWAY. Next thing you know she is grinding on me and all over me.

There are thousands of examples like this. I don't care what the woman wants.. I just care what I want. I'm usually rewarded for this selfish outlook more than the kinder beta faggots.

WORD... Certain girls - which I believe Frat is going after - are ALL about the lust, excitement, quick thrills (ie, sex), aggression, and uncertainty. Even if that means trouble, drama, chaos, etc. A lot of these girls get turned off REAL QUICK if you act shy, insecure, uncertain, PREDICTABLE, and "nice" - because they're not that way themselves. Nor do they give a damn about qualities that actually matter, or how genuine and decent you are.... because, again, they aren't decent themselves. They're bold, out-going, aggressive, flirtacious, "in-demand", FAKE, egotistical... otherwise they wouldn't be teasing him as they do. Nice, shy, homely girls don't act this way. Only the cliquey, stuck up ones do... the ones all about being social and popular; dress to impress; approach and flirt; receive a lot of attention; frequenting bars, parties, and "frats"... you know the drill.

If you want to attract them - you have to BE like them, and NOT believe their claims when they whine and complain about everyone being "jerks" and "man wh0res". It's what they are, attract, and seek after. For the most part, you don't even get to know these bishes on a deeper level, since they're shallow anyway. They only THINK they're classy and sophisticated (see: delusional entitlement), when they're just dumb and annoying. Certainly don't sympathize with these types, or assume them to be afraid and misunderstood, and all that jazz.

As always, words vs actions; pay attention to who they REALLY are, and what they REALLY respond to; if what you're doing (ie, being proper) isn't working with these girls - try something else.