Why does sosuave frown on marriage

[taiyuu_otoko]

To sum it up, I've been married 1.5 times:

Like, once to a normal person and once to a midget?

 

[highSpeed]

Agree to the terms of the divorce BEFOREHAND. She wants a divorce? OK, here is $10,000, a Diet Coke, you never talk to me again.

Come on bro, read the post.

Oh, if it were only that simple. There's a reason why 80% of divorces are initiated by women because they get paid bro. Also, how many women break out the water works when men try to get a pre-nup? Oh, you don't trust me, we shouldn't get married then. Many guys give in.

Also, you know family courts, divorce courts, you can literally wipe your a$$ with that pre-nup. Everyone forgets for some reason, at least in the states, you don't have due process rights in family and divorce courts, those courts are completely separate from criminal and civil courts. Activist judge can take one look at your pre-nup, arbitrarily decide it's not fair and make their own ruling. It won't matter what she did or did not agree to, they can set something that they think is more "fair."

 

[highSpeed]

I can see how that works in Arab and Muslim countries where multiple wives are welcome. Not so much in the US; though I know many dudes who cheat on their wives. Too risky in my opinion, but whatever floats their boat. Some dudes just need new pvssy.

Some dudes just need p*ssy in general. There are tons of married guys who literally get none. Doesn't matter how awesome you are, they like the control. Hell, they may be getting some on the side and then completely stoning their husbands, either way, I think a lot of women get off on the power as much as the sex.

 

[Spaz]

Oh, if it were only that simple. There's a reason why 80% of divorces are initiated by women because they get paid bro. Also, how many women break out the water works when men try to get a pre-nup? Oh, you don't trust me, we shouldn't get married then. Many guys give in.

Also, you know family courts, divorce courts, you can literally wipe your a$$ with that pre-nup. Everyone forgets for some reason, at least in the states, you don't have due process rights in family and divorce courts, those courts are completely separate from criminal and civil courts. Activist judge can take one look at your pre-nup, arbitrarily decide it's not fair and make their own ruling. It won't matter what she did or did not agree to, they can set something that they think is more "fair."

You guys in America have my deepest sympathies.

All those law makers really screwed it up big time.

 

[highSpeed]

I think the issue of marriage is either

1. She had no experience before she got married, now she wants to "spread her wings" so to speak, so she seeks for a divorce. She's tired of being safe, she wants excitement and to feel what its like to be burned so she can regret it and go back to the safer options.

2. She truly genuinely loved the man, and the man got lazy and refused to maintain the relationship by courting the woman. If she is not emotionally or sexually satisfied she will leave and find it elsewhere. Very few women will stick around after being deprived (my mother is one of them, but that comes with a whole nother set of baggage issues)

3. Men ignore all the red flags of a fickle woman who is either afraid of commitment (but does it anyways and regrets it) or she settles for him and eventually regrets it, but again there are red flags when a woman is settling. She certainly won't be excited to see you and she won't initiate sex. Big red flags, a woman who desires you will please you sexually without you initiating it

I see it all the time with my personal training clients, men bamboozled by their wives or now.. ex wives.. "Well I do this and this for her, she must love me! I've done all these things why is she being like this!" Because women don't think like us.

Its simple yet hard to execute maintenance on a relationship, you keep doing the same things you did when you first started dating, but with a slight subtle twist. If you surprised her with trips or outings, you don't stop. But you must never fall into routine, doing the same ol passionless sex positions and same ol dinners/movie/sex in that order. She will be bored very quickly. There must be fire, must be passion, women NEED to feel, women by nature are feelers... Habits bore women.. yawn.. We men are creatures of habit, and habits have no place in relationships.. aside from the habit of being occasionally spontaneous and dating your woman like she's a new woman.

Just my 'pinion, but I'm also young and never been married so I guess it's theory at this point, just going off anecdotal evidence of men I know

I get what you're saying, many others do, but that honestly sounds like way too much work. Look, if I have to constantly try to "excite" someone to get them to be interested, invested and stick with the relationship, too much work. I've already got plenty of work to keep me busy, my relationship/marriage should be pleasurable. It'd be like having to get smashed over the head with a broom handle you could drink your beer, I think I'd pass on the beer. Better ways to enjoy something than to constantly have to put in 200% effort for like 2% return.

 

[highSpeed]

You guys in America have my deepest sympathies.

All those law makers really screwed it up big time.

I know guys who've still gotten gutted, even with a pre-nup. No matter how much money you make, no matter what kind of iron clad pre-nup you have, you're still exposed in marriage, unless of course, you don't have kids and she makes about as much as you do. If you're both poor at your jobs but make the same amount, you've actually got some insulation as far as her leaving believe it or not. If you don't have kids, hey, who gives a sh*t if the marriage doesn't work out, you can just walk away. If you're both well off at your jobs, there's a good chance she's leaving at some point, so again, why marry? Just rent her for a bit.

 

[Desdinova]

Agree to the terms of the divorce BEFOREHAND. She wants a divorce? OK, here is $10,000, a Diet Coke, you never talk to me again.

Come on bro, read the post.

Then it gets challenged in court and you still lose. Also, there are certain legal guidelines you need to follow especially when it comes to custody arrangements.

There's a lot to lose. Better to avoid getting married than accidentally marry a piece of 5hit, and there is an abundance of piece of 5hit women out there

 

[Trump]

Oh, if it were only that simple. There's a reason why 80% of divorces are initiated by women because they get paid bro. Also, how many women break out the water works when men try to get a pre-nup? Oh, you don't trust me, we shouldn't get married then. Many guys give in.

Also, you know family courts, divorce courts, you can literally wipe your a$$ with that pre-nup. Everyone forgets for some reason, at least in the states, you don't have due process rights in family and divorce courts, those courts are completely separate from criminal and civil courts. Activist judge can take one look at your pre-nup, arbitrarily decide it's not fair and make their own ruling. It won't matter what she did or did not agree to, they can set something that they think is more "fair."

Any agreement can be challenged in courts. If you are not going to get married WITH a prenup on the chance the court may overturn it, then don’t get into ANY agreement with anyone. Don’t sign a lease agreement, don’t sign a mortgage, don’t sign a cell
phone contract, don’t do anything.

You guys are bringing all these extenuating circumstances, what if courts overturn it? What if she cries and backs out of it? What if she sleeps with the judge? Yes, obviously she can try anything as women are unpredictable. As said in the original post, thats why you tell her “ok, if we divorce, THIS is what you will get paid.”

As long as you protect yourself financially, I don’t see any reason NOT to be married with a young mistress.

 

[highSpeed]

Any agreement can be challenged in courts. If you are not going to get married WITH a prenup on the chance the court may overturn it, then don’t get into ANY agreement with anyone. Don’t sign a lease agreement, don’t sign a mortgage, don’t sign a cell
phone contract, don’t do anything.

You guys are bringing all these extenuating circumstances, what if courts overturn it? What if she cries and backs out of it? What if she sleeps with the judge? Yes, obviously she can try anything as women are unpredictable. As said in the original post, thats why you tell her “ok, if we divorce, THIS is what you will get paid.”

As long as you protect yourself financially, I don’t see any reason NOT to be married with a young mistress.

Contracts can be challenged but they have to be challenged or "win" the case based on the merits of the law, not on the whim of some activist judge who thinks that your agreement is unfair. Their opinion on the dissolution of your marriage is totally subject to their whims. You have 3 billion dollars, she agreed to a 20 million payout and the judge things that's unfair, boom, your pre-nup is out and half or more of that 3 billion fortune can be in her sights. It's not that difficult, I don't care how iron clad your prenup is, it can be thrown out for no legal reason. The judge's whims are not legal reason.

 

[Glassguy]

Outside o financial loss, divorce (no matter the length of marriage) will cause mental and emotional turmoil as well as some degree as shame.

Prenups are all fine and dandy, but a judge can still overrule things in a prenup based on situational change from when the prenup was signed compared to the divorce. I had a friend worth mega money that went into his 2nd marriage with a prenup. He still got slaughtered during the divorce and could do nothing about it.

I have been married once. I see no point in doing that again.

Why buy the milk when I can drink it for free (and from a stable full as well)?

No risk + maximum gain all the way. Rotations, rotations, rotations!

 

[nicksaiz65]

I've heard enough stories so that I know getting married is an absolutely awful idea. The conflict in my mind is what if I ever want to raise kids and start a family? Obviously I have to master my Game first, but this really is kind of a conundrum going on inside my head.

 

[LiquidOscillation]

I get what you're saying, many others do, but that honestly sounds like way too much work. Look, if I have to constantly try to "excite" someone to get them to be interested, invested and stick with the relationship, too much work. I've already got plenty of work to keep me busy, my relationship/marriage should be pleasurable. It'd be like having to get smashed over the head with a broom handle you could drink your beer, I think I'd pass on the beer. Better ways to enjoy something than to constantly have to put in 200% effort for like 2% return.

I hear you man, but if you love a woman it isn't work. If you're attracted to your woman sexually, you will want to date her Nomsayin? Like a woman will pick up after a man and cook and clean for him if she loves him, she doesn't mind. She'll willingly open herself to receive sex and love and affirmation as long as he stays in his masculine aura, and his actions stay congruent with his words.

It's really more like guiding your woman to new experiences, not because you're obligated to, but because it's fun and exciting.. just some dudes think dating women is fun and exciting, I think being in a dynamic relationship can be fun and exciting. Both will be boring at some times too, life is a roller coaster of highs and lows.. and people get hung up on the lows too much

 

[RickTheToad]

You guys in America have my deepest sympathies.

All those law makers really screwed it up big time.

No worries. It will slowly come to the east too. It's already infiltrating S. Korea.

I hear you man, but if you love a woman it isn't work. If you're attracted to your woman sexually, you will want to date her Nomsayin? Like a woman will pick up after a man and cook and clean for him if she loves him, she doesn't mind. She'll willingly open herself to receive sex and love and affirmation as long as he stays in his masculine aura, and his actions stay congruent with his words.

It's really more like guiding your woman to new experiences, not because you're obligated to, but because it's fun and exciting.. just some dudes think dating women is fun and exciting, I think being in a dynamic relationship can be fun and exciting. Both will be boring at some times too, life is a roller coaster of highs and lows.. and people get hung up on the lows too much

Very blue pill run of the mill thinking.. Do some research dude.

 

[LiquidOscillation]

No worries. It will slowly come to the east too. It's already infiltrating S. Korea.




Very blue pill run of the mill thinking.. Do some research dude.

There are like minded women that think like me, it's just they are very few and rare. I think it's closeminded and borderline incel to believe that all women are vipers and vampires that have nothing to offer. Are most women vapid? Yes. Do stereotypes exist for a reason? Yes. Would you argue if I said all men are useless and only want sex? My research is real life experience, friend

EDIT* I've NEVER been burned by women when I paid attention to her actions instead of her words. Too many men ignore RED FLAGS in relationships, and are left bamboozled. Not 1 woman in my life has ever pulled the wool over my eyes, because if her actions don't align with her words, she is untrust worthy. I do not suffer foolish behavior from anyone that I associate with

 

[RickTheToad]

There are like minded women that think like me, it's just they are very few and rare. I think it's closeminded and borderline incel to believe that all women are vipers and vampires that have nothing to offer. Are most women vapid? Yes. Do stereotypes exist for a reason? Yes. Would you argue if I said all men are useless and only want sex? My research is real life experience, friend

EDIT* I've NEVER been burned by women when I paid attention to her actions instead of her words. Too many men ignore RED FLAGS in relationships, and are left bamboozled. Not 1 woman in my life has ever pulled the wool over my eyes, because if her actions don't align with her words, she is untrust worthy. I do not suffer foolish behavior from anyone that I associate with

Ever hear of buyer beware? Or, change of heart? Add that on top of a iron-clad contract in family court and you'd understand. I've heard and witnessed horror stories from the family courts. If you are in the US or CA, I recommend you go to family court and just sit in the gallery for a little while to really attempt to understand what most dudes have to go through. Warning, it's not pleasant.

 

[highSpeed]

There are like minded women that think like me, it's just they are very few and rare. I think it's closeminded and borderline incel to believe that all women are vipers and vampires that have nothing to offer. Are most women vapid? Yes. Do stereotypes exist for a reason? Yes. Would you argue if I said all men are useless and only want sex? My research is real life experience, friend

EDIT* I've NEVER been burned by women when I paid attention to her actions instead of her words. Too many men ignore RED FLAGS in relationships, and are left bamboozled. Not 1 woman in my life has ever pulled the wool over my eyes, because if her actions don't align with her words, she is untrust worthy. I do not suffer foolish behavior from anyone that I associate with

C'mon man, it's hard wired into their brain, it just is. You can deny it but that's what it is. They are hard wired to secure resources, period. Whether it if for offspring (primarily) or simply for their own needs, that's what they do. Do all women do it? No, it's stupid to say that every single woman is universally out to do that. However, the large majority of them are, to one degree or another.

Why are people so desperate to disprove someone else's statement when in the majority of the situations, the norm will occur? Do you feel smarter in those small percentages of the time you end up being right? Or do you feel dumb in the large percentage of the situations where you are wrong?

 

[AJ84]

Any agreement can be challenged in courts. If you are not going to get married WITH a prenup on the chance the court may overturn it, then don’t get into ANY agreement with anyone. Don’t sign a lease agreement, don’t sign a mortgage, don’t sign a cell
phone contract, don’t do anything.

You guys are bringing all these extenuating circumstances, what if courts overturn it? What if she cries and backs out of it? What if she sleeps with the judge? Yes, obviously she can try anything as women are unpredictable. As said in the original post, thats why you tell her “ok, if we divorce, THIS is what you will get paid.”

As long as you protect yourself financially, I don’t see any reason NOT to be married with a young mistress.

The father of an acquaintance of mine apparently had a prenup signed with his wife and did just what you are suggesting, had the mistress. Got caught, wife filed for divorce and the judge threw out the prenup on the grounds that he cheated. He had money hidden in secret accounts and the wife’s lawyer found a way to discover all of his assets. Lost half his money, his wife, his kids (who don’t speak to him) and soon after the mistress when she realized he lost the money she thought she was going to benefit from.

So, I actually agree with what many members here say in that there really is no guarantee that you are ever financially protected in a marriage. Only guarantee is not to get married and not live in a place that recognizes common law marriage and not have kids.

 

[Trump]

Contracts can be challenged but they have to be challenged or "win" the case based on the merits of the law, not on the whim of some activist judge who thinks that your agreement is unfair. Their opinion on the dissolution of your marriage is totally subject to their whims. You have 3 billion dollars, she agreed to a 20 million payout and the judge things that's unfair, boom, your pre-nup is out and half or more of that 3 billion fortune can be in her sights. It's not that difficult, I don't care how iron clad your prenup is, it can be thrown out for no legal reason. The judge's whims are not legal reason.

Then you shouldn’t get into ANY contract with anyone or any company or any service or anything. Because if you do, that argument goes out the window.

If a man had children with her and had $3B, he should give her half. What are you to do at 62 with an extra $1.5B? Drive up to the club in a Ferrari?

At what cost are you guys happy not be to be with women?

 

[marmel75]

Because it more often than not only serves in the long run to separate a man from his finances for lengthy periods of time.

 

[marmel75]

Then you shouldn’t get into ANY contract with anyone or any company or any service or anything. Because if you do, that argument goes out the window.

If a man had children with her and had $3B, he should give her half. What are you to do at 62 with an extra $1.5B? Drive up to the club in a Ferrari?

At what cost are you guys happy not be to be with women?

For doing what exactly? Spreading her legs? Did she earn the money?