Why do women react by far the most to travel and food?

[user252009]

We guys have interests and hobbies / careers that are interesting and provide opportunity for growth, learning and specialisation. I have an interesting side career, but rarely get females to react to that side of me (with a few exceptions). Mostly, women react to the things I post from travels or food, for whatever reason. Are they shallow or is it because they relate more to that? Have you also experienced this?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

In OLD at least they certainly post about wanting to travel and eat great food. This is posted by “strong, intelligent, independent” woman - but I guarantee that they’d expect their matches to pay as much of it as possible. I have no reason to believe the non OLD using population of females do not feel exactly the same way.

Provisioning = food - the more fancy the more expensive the better.
Travel = luxury and money as well, it’s again provisioning - only the best earners can provide it.

Women most often are conditioned to extract wealth from men.

I have a female friend who is a ex athlete, here she is easily a 9. She’s 37, and a divorced mom of 1. It is rare when we exchange messages for her not to be on the way to or on the way back from an expensive vacation - Bali, Hawaii, the Maldives, or for her to be out at dinner. Given her chosen profession there is no way she is paying her way. She’s using her SMV for cash and prizes from several different men. It is what it is.

We guys have interests and hobbies / careers that are interesting and provide opportunity for growth, learning and specialisation. I have an interesting side career, but rarely get females to react to that side of me (with a few exceptions). Mostly, women react to the things I post from travels or food, for whatever reason. Are they shallow or is it because they relate more to that? Have you also experienced this?

 

[AureliusMaximus]

We guys have interests and hobbies / careers that are interesting and provide opportunity for growth, learning and specialisation. I have an interesting side career, but rarely get females to react to that side of me (with a few exceptions). Mostly, women react to the things I post from travels or food, for whatever reason. Are they shallow or is it because they relate more to that? Have you also experienced this?

Social status (and the recognition of it), is everything to women with such things such as for example restaurants, travels conveys that image of higher status to her female friends and the social circle they are in. One must remember that the competition between chicks is extremely fierce where they always battle of who is the hottest, got the hottest bf, highest wealth etc. all to piss of their girlfriends. It never fricking stops.

Like they say: Bytches hate bytches; there are no real friendship between women. they lack the real friendship bonds that we guys (often), share with each other on real higher level where we can be friends for life with another bro.
They are always competing for the best resources/highest social status within their social group which is probably why they are so addicted to social media such as Instra, snap , TikTok etc. where they can flaunt their social status to the world, (but especially to their female social circle itself).

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

You’re going to hate this but a lot of women are turned off by Side Hustlers because a lot of them can be sleazy, deceiving, and fool them. I know a lot of women from the apps that have been burned by these types of guys.

Blue collar men- it’s because most blue collar men are fat, eat like shvt, Dorian, and can be complacent boring *******s lol. I’m sure if blue collar looked liked the men in that fifth harmony work from home video then their perception would be much better.

high paying white collar jobs- Doctors and lawyers have status, education,and stability to back them up. In addition, Hollywood portrays these guys as chads, Chans, Rajs and Derrells lol. Not every guy in this field is good looking and in shape, but it is much more prevalent than blue collars.

 

[bat soup]

We guys have interests and hobbies / careers that are interesting and provide opportunity for growth, learning and specialisation. I have an interesting side career, but rarely get females to react to that side of me (with a few exceptions). Mostly, women react to the things I post from travels or food, for whatever reason. Are they shallow or is it because they relate more to that? Have you also experienced this?

Women don't react to travel and food. They react to FREE shiiit. It doesn't matter what the shiit is, as long as it's expensive and they can get at it for free by just pretending to be interested in you.

 

[member160292]

Solution: Filter for women that makes money so you can do it together.

I like to travel and have interesting cuisines, who doesn't? Fancy restaurants and bars are fun, the crowd is so much better. None of the girls I've been with expect to go there or travel and/or have me pay for it. It's something I enjoy doing.

On here, we simply lump women into a category that are solely looking for providers. Of course they are, it's evolution. However, don't get stuck in the mindset. It's understandable that a lot of women are like that, and you might have had a bad relationship with one. I'll put on my white knight armor and state that not all women are like that.

Be smart when choosing women, establish your own standards and reinforce them with whoever you're with

 

[EyeBRollin]

Women generally don’t have hobbies, passions or interests. Most of them are lost without men. Their entire existence is consumption (food, trips, shopping), attention seeking, and validation.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

In OLD at least they certainly post about wanting to travel and eat great food. This is posted by “strong, intelligent, independent” woman - but I guarantee that they’d expect their matches to pay as much of it as possible. I have no reason to believe the non OLD using population of females do not feel exactly the same way.

Provisioning = food - the more fancy the more expensive the better.
Travel = luxury and money as well, it’s again provisioning - only the best earners can provide it.

Women most often are conditioned to extract wealth from men.

I have a female friend who is a ex athlete, here she is easily a 9. She’s 37, and a divorced mom of 1. It is rare when we exchange messages for her not to be on the way to or on the way back from an expensive vacation - Bali, Hawaii, the Maldives, or for her to be out at dinner. Given her chosen profession there is no way she is paying her way. She’s using her SMV for cash and prizes from several different men. It is what it is.

Hopefully those chumps are at least fvcking her senseless

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Hopefully those chumps are at least fvcking her senseless

Based on what has been shared it’s definitely transactional and substance fueled. But hey it’s like watching mold grow in a petri dish for me.

 

[Macadellic]

Because they are
couchsurfing s/Iuts that need to eat

 

[devilkingx2]

Idealistically, travelling and exotic food make you an interesting and adventurous person who has lived an exciting life.

As opposed to some couch potato who only watches TV like everyone else or some workaholic who only knows how to be a corporate slave and obsess over money.

Cynically, hypergamous thots only care about draining money and status from their victims, and therefore they care about expensive things like travelling for clout chasing and attracting sugar daddies/beta Bux.

 

[user252009]

I've been travelling last two weeks and I'm coming back to this thread to reconfirm that again, when posting travelling stories, I get the most direct messages from women for some reason. Crazy

 

[SW15]

Women generally don’t have hobbies, passions or interests. Most of them are lost without men. Their entire existence is consumption (food, trips, shopping), attention seeking, and validation.

And sex!

In OLD at least they certainly post about wanting to travel and eat great food. This is posted by “strong, intelligent, independent” woman - but I guarantee that they’d expect their matches to pay as much of it as possible. I have no reason to believe the non OLD using population of females do not feel exactly the same way.

Women most often are conditioned to extract wealth from men.

All true

I have a female friend who is a ex athlete, here she is easily a 9. She’s 37, and a divorced mom of 1. It is rare when we exchange messages for her not to be on the way to or on the way back from an expensive vacation - Bali, Hawaii, the Maldives, or for her to be out at dinner. Given her chosen profession there is no way she is paying her way. She’s using her SMV for cash and prizes from several different men. It is what it is.

She's attractive but a single mom. This is why the default state of women is overabundance. Men are still very interested despite her single mom status.

 

[RangerMIke]

I have seen women sacrifice a lot to travel. I know one that can't keep a job because she like to travel too much... I know women that have $30k in debt taking trips they can't afford... I know women that stay with men that they really do not love because he has money to to keep her on the move on vacations... I know women who have dumped men they do love because they ran out of money and wanted to take a break from travel. I know at least three marriages that are only held together because the man keeps the couple in debt traveling.

Food I get, I love good food as well... but what I do not understand is this obsessive desire to travel that many women have. It is one of the most wasteful things people can do. You spend thousands and what do you have at the end of the day? A bunch of pictures on an iPhone. The only thing I can figure out is that traveling a lot is the ultimate status symbol.

 

[EyeBRollin]

You spend thousands and what do you have at the end of the day? A bunch of pictures on an iPhone. The only thing I can figure out is that traveling a lot is the ultimate status symbol.

Correct. Traveling is a status symbol that is the ultimate validation. Women constantly need validation.

 

[SW15]

I do not understand is this obsessive desire to travel that many women have. It is one of the most wasteful things people can do. You spend thousands and what do you have at the end of the day? A bunch of pictures on an iPhone. The only thing I can figure out is that traveling a lot is the ultimate status symbol.

Traveling has also been a bigger annoyance since 9/11 because the airport and airplane experience has gotten worse. For me, 9/11 happened when I had just reached adulthood so I remember traveling pre-9/11 with my parents. Travel was better in the 1980-September 10, 2001 era.

There is some value in the experiences of travel and the pictures you can get, either printed (pre-cell phone era) or now on a smartphone/social media.

If you traveled between 1980-9/10/2001, most things were less crowded because populations were lower then and there was a less obsession around travel, which internet and social media have helped to create. There were travel magazines in the 1980s-1990s, but the travel magazines in those era didn't push out as much travel content as social media platforms and internet websites can push out today.

With attractions being more crowded and travel itself being less pleasant, most trips aren't worth it. A lot of vacation experiences can be had by watching YouTube videos about any destination.

Roosh wrote an article in 2018 about vacations being a scam.

Vacations Are A Scam – Roosh Valizadeh

You've been working hard on the job and now have some vacation days to use. Your boss was chafed when you suggested taking two weeks off so you settled for one week, which you believe is still more than enough time to unwind and relax. Wrong! Not only will a vacation not relax you, but it will creat

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We also had a thread last year about why traveling is overrated.

Travelling is overrated

Now, I think 1-2 vacations a year with a couple of weekend breathers is completely normal. However, it can come to a point to where people use travel as an unhealthy cope/escape. I see a lot of topics about girls in fricking Romania or NYC on this board, but not a lot of self-improvement. It...

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[Robert28]

What I can’t stand is this modern dating idea of how if you’ve only been dating for a month (or less) you’re expected to take her on some expensive weekend vacation. I see it ALL the time with people who just start dating and next thing you know they’re posting pics from the trip they took to the mountain resort or something. I’m old school I guess, I’ll do a day trip early on but I’m not spending thousands on you on some multi-day vacation when I’ve only known you less than a couple months. 6 months? Maybe, depends on how the relationship is going. But this thing of dating for a few weeks and you expect me to take you on a vacation, fvck you and the horse you rode in on.

 

[SW15]

What I can’t stand is this modern dating idea of how if you’ve only been dating for a month (or less) you’re expected to take her on some expensive weekend vacation. I see it ALL the time with people who just start dating and next thing you know they’re posting pics from the trip they took to the mountain resort or something. I’m old school I guess, I’ll do a day trip early on but I’m not spending thousands on you on some multi-day vacation when I’ve only known you less than a couple months. 6 months? Maybe, depends on how the relationship is going. But this thing of dating for a few weeks and you expect me to take you on a vacation, fvck you and the horse you rode in on.

This article is relevant to what you are discussing.

The Power of Beta Males - Alpha Male 2.0

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Women live in a state of abundance, even 40+ women past their primes. When one individual male won't take a woman on a 3 day weekend vacation in the first 2 months, a woman can find a beta simp who will do that for her. Betas/simps are known for raising the costs for getting vagina for all.

A weekend trip is inappropriate for the first 6 months or so.

1 week+ vacations require at least 1 year of a good relationship.

Most of travel is geared towards couples too. It's more difficult to travel as an unattached or marginally attached person.

 

[SW15]

It’s pay to play and if she’s sexy and fun enough very early on, I’m happy to spoil her if I can have my way with her body. I have these chicks do some crazy **** they wouldn’t otherwise do if I didn’t spoil the hell out of em.

Most men have to pay for sex, either directly or indirectly. Men pay for sex with paying for women to go on vacations. Men do this for their long term girlfriends and wives too. Most men have many costs associated with having a long term girlfriend or wife. With marriages having less sex now than in the 1980s, men are getting less for their money in marriage.

Some men can get away with getting sex for little to nothing. If you're a 6'0'+, tanned, muscular guy at a Spring Break foam party in Cancun or Daytona Beach, the cost for getting pusssy is low once you've paid to take yourself to Cancun or Daytona Beach.

 

[user252009]

With marriages having less sex now than in the 1980s, men are getting less for their money in marriage.

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