why do women have men so much by the balls?

[ilikecharlene]

A lot of guys won't get a hooker because they view it as a sign of "failure.". In other words, "I'm not attractive enough to pull at the bar/club so I have to pay for it."

While I know it's all ego based, I share this view. I'm stubborn in the sense that I'll go through long dry spells or rough patches in my game than pay for it.

However, I don't judge guys that do pay for it. I also agree that hookers provide a valuable service. I'm just saying my ego won't let me do it lol.

Even men who are considered good looking pay for it. It's more complex than saying only ugly guys pay for it.

 

[ilikecharlene]

Sorry guys this is laughable!

You guys are making this waaaaaay too complex.

Sex and food, are among our basic requirements.

Do ANY OF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM GOING TO A RESTAURANT??

No....I didn't think so.

You go to Thomas Keller, or David Chang, or that great sub shop down the street because they have a specialized skill that they are very good at...likewise a sex professional if you're chosing right should be able to deliver a killer performance of pleasure.

are there home cooks as good as restaurant cooks....yes...but you don't go searching for them, that would be inefficient..YOU JUST GO TO A RESTAURANT.

roman soldiers had hookers rationed to them....basic needs...think about it.

Oh and Backbreaker to your point, sex is never free you're just paying in installments Paying upfront for a sex act done right is the biggest BARGAIN you'll ever see.

I think sex is a want, not a need. Celibate and asexual people don't need sex. At the least, sex is not as pressing a need as food or water.

 

[goodfoot]

They got me with that Dead Sea salt thing in 2006, lol. Definitely a better guy now than I was back then.

 

[sstype]

Hell will freeze over before they legalize prostituion here in the U.S., just look at the sh*t storm over pornography.

We can't even enjoy the freaking advertising......

 

[Burroughs]

Celibate and asexual people don't need sex.

no one cares about these people

 

[zekko]

]But being realistic, for various reasons, maybe because of where you are in life, maybe because you are just in a slump, maybe because you are just petrified of women, not everyone is there at that point in life.

Meh, I'd rather just do without. I've done without before, it isn't going to kill me. You've said you've done three years and you survived, and those were some peak hormone years.

If I was in a slump, I'd rather keep the pressure on myself to do something about it, rather than get a quick release with a hooker. Prostitutes just don't appeal to me. But I have no problem with someone else using them if they like.

 

[zekko]

The difference being that the prostitute will tell the man UP FRONT how much he is expected to pay.

As far as I'm concerned, the difference is that the prostitute has been entered by hundreds of other guys. Like I said before, it's a turnoff. To me, anyway. YMMV.

 

[Nutz]

I think sex is a want, not a need. Celibate and asexual people don't need sex. At the least, sex is not as pressing a need as food or water.

Tell that to the Sodinis of the world.

 

[Burroughs]

This topic can be sliced and diced a thousand ways but the bottom line it seems is.....age group to age group men are behind the curve with in comes to maximizing their own self interest.

Women have their wedding dress, ceremony, and type of man picked out by the time they are 7!...Dudes are looking to fvck chicks in high school...by that time we are years behind.

Even the plainest hb 5 will have a laundry list of requirement that strangely enough hb7-8 men will line up to fill.

But it is the rare man that creates and STICKS TO his own list...1. cook. 2.BJ 3. cook 4.buttsecks...whatever.

the shocking fact is that in modern western society MEN ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE STANDARDS...and it seems that MEN ARE OK WITH THIS.

But the truth is....men want to get laid and most will suffer utter humiliation, cuckolding and financial ruin to get even a sniff of poontang.

pathetic.

 

[Wilko]

The prostitution thing has been on my mind lately. I've been thinking about what I really want a woman for. Without going into detailed reasons I'm not interested in marriage, kids, or any kind of co-habitation. So, what else would I want a woman for? Well...

In the last year, two girls have played the domestic goddess card (looking for a Don Draper to help them live out their Mad Men fantasies). I was intrigued at first, but that gave way to the realisation that I don't need that either, I'm already very capable at home.

How about someone to share the burden of a massive mortgage? Bahaha. Where do I start. I'll just say that I hate any kind of debt and I don't share Joe Public's neurotic obsession with home ownership. Never mind the repercussions when the personal/financial relationship inevitably sours.

That leaves sex, and something I can only vaguely describe as "good female company", although now I'm starting to think I only ever imagined the latter.

If only there was a way to enjoy good female company AND sex without all the attendant burdens of a girlfriend, spinning plates, esteem-building, sh!t-tests, etc.

....Hold on a damn minute!

 

[Wilko]

Interesting that there hasn't been much discussion on hookers vs escorts in the thread. Having worked through my thoughts in the last post I think the escort experience might be more my style. If anyone has some experience with that, I'm all ears.

Only one experience with a hooker to date and that didn't do much for me. Thai bar girl (surprise, surprise), and that was the most mundane sexual experience of my life.

You know what I really want a woman for?

Buttsecks and a live comedy gig.

Messy facial and someone to squeal on the back of my scooter.

Someone to cop a hard spanking and pound fancy ****tails with me.

It's not going to meet all the requirements but there's probably a place for a hooker/escort in there somewhere at some point.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

I think sex is a want, not a need. Celibate and asexual people don't need sex. At the least, sex is not as pressing a need as food or water.

Catholic priest pedophiles, and Jerry Sanduski completely agree with you.

 

[zekko]

The prostitution thing has been on my mind lately

Although I doubt I would ever use prostitution, I would have no objection to
it being legalized. I'm almost always for more freedom. Why should Nevada be so special?

How about someone to share the burden of a massive mortgage? Bahaha. Where do I start. I'll just say that I hate any kind of debt and I don't share Joe Public's neurotic obsession with home ownership. Never mind the repercussions when the personal/financial relationship inevitably sours.

I would never marry a woman for financial reasons. While it is nice to have someone around to help pay the bills, as often as not women can be a financial drain. I'd say the majority of them don't know how to handle money, and run up debt like mad. You're probably better off sticking to your own budget.

That leaves sex, and something I can only vaguely describe as "good female company", although now I'm starting to think I only ever imagined the latter.

Nah, you weren't imagining it.

If only there was a way to enjoy good female company AND sex without all the attendant burdens of a girlfriend, spinning plates, esteem-building, sh!t-tests, etc.

If you find the right girl it's not such a burden. But I definitelly agree spinning plates and dating can be a big pain in the @ss. Just reading this forum will tell you that. I sure don't look forward to getting back out there, if the situation should arise.

 

[Burroughs]

If only there was a way to enjoy good female company AND sex without all the attendant burdens of a girlfriend, spinning plates, esteem-building, sh!t-tests, etc.

....Hold on a damn minute!

This will happen when men stop trying to be striving pathetic worker bees and start focusing on their own hedonistic pleasure.

The fact that men themselves will decry prostitution is the height of hilarity...they'll say chasing poontang is 'character building' I say point me to the nearest steak house so I can order a blood red rib eye.

Get it?

No one has a problem with a restaurant...why the same problem with an organized, disease free system of sex workers...do yourselves a favor take a trip to Amsterdam.

I've said it before: an organized global, LEGAL, CLEAN, GUILT FREE system of prostitution would CHANGE WESTERN SOCIETY AS WE KNOW IT...

as an example

WHAT MAN WOULD GIVE A FLYING FVCK ABOUT VALENTINES DAY?

girlfriend sex blackmail would be A THING OF THE PAST.

gf doesn't want to lick your balz or take a load on her face?...go down the street and visit your local establishment...and by the way tell the gf to pack her things and get the fvck out...easy

 

[speed dawg]

Catholic priest pedophiles, and Jerry Sanduski completely agree with you.

So does Tim Tebow.

I have no respect for men who let their physical wants overwhelm their wits.

 

[DanelMadr]

I just don't understand , why men who can't get any or have no experience, hold up their nose against paying for sex.

1. It would be like cheating. I prefer to deserve it.
2. Can't compare but it seems it would be more like assisted masturbation at best.
3. Why would I f@ck a girl I don't even respect. I don't respect girls so greedy they sell their own body.
4. No kissing allowed, I guess....equals no passion, equals not that good entertainment
5. Lots of forced prostitution and junkies in my neck of woods....wouldn't like to be part of it
6. I have very romantic/spiritual view on copulation.
7. I would be very picky, therefore the ho I would want would be very expensive. And I'm greedy bastard.

I would legalize it, however.
I'm not saying I never will use a ho but not a cup of my tea for now.

 

[mrRuckus]

I always like to post this nice blog post when this comes up.

http://tinyurl.com/3kz8axo

 

[Tazman]

I believe under certain (unrealistic) conditions almost every guy would pay for it.

1.) Guaranteed STD free.

2.) Affordable.

3.) Complete anonymity, no one else except those participating will know.

4.) Convenient.

5.) Great attitude, indistinguishable from genuine interest.

6.) Physically attractive (goes without saying).

There's always a balancing act going on with "nature". Things may shift in certain directions depending on current circumstances, but one thing remains consistent. You won't win against nature.

I think a large part of the problems we face with women is due to technological developments, "modern living". It created a vacuum of sorts, where life became easier for everyone, especially in developed countries.

I fully believe in the famous quote "nature abhors a vacuum". Technology (among other things, but I think it's primary) created a vacuum and women stepped up to fill it. Life to me, was/is never meant to be easy, quite the opposite in fact. Some people suffer more than others, but we all do to some degree.

Simply adapt and move on. Easier said then done, I know.

 

[Lexington]

Why do women have guys the balls? It's because sex is today much more highly valued than it was in the old days. That might seem odd considering that it is today more accessible than ever and we live in a hypersexualized world.

But until relatively recently in human history, sex was simply not the highest thing on most people's priority list. People starved if their crops failed. People died from diseases which are easily treatable today. A large percentage of men had brutal wars to fight. Women died in childbirth.

1000 years ago, a child had a life expectancy of about 24 years. 100 years ago in America, a man had a life expectancy of about 49. A woman's was 51. Today, these numbers are easily surpassed even in some of the poorest third world countries.

Now that most people's needs in Western society have been met, they turn to higher things on the hierarchy such as sex, luxury items etc. In the old days, men simply did not have time for women's shenanigans. Today, many men willingly and gladly put up with them.

Pvssy is just a higher demand item today than it once was.

 

[Burroughs]

genius post ruckus!

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Prostitution has been hated since it’s inception, not by men, but by women.

Not because it degrades women. Women will gleefully prostitute themselves out for goodies, they just despise the idea of having to compete for it.

Competition lowers costs, it improves the quality of the product.

This would be great for sex, wonderful men, and the ruin of the kunts.

Kunts loathe having to compete for anything and the thought of having the one thing they can offer men commoditized scares the living **** out of them.

They will fight to keep it illegal and would sooner have abortion made illegal than have prostitution decriminalized.