Why do we continue to play a dating game that is rigged against us

[Dhoulmagus]

I just got laid lol

 

[zinc4]

The game/ women in the west do indeed suck.

OP is a bit whiny, but I'm with ya with it not even being worth the effort.

It's like telling someone they should give 110 percent for a ****ty minimum wage dead end job.

I'm going back to travelling. Screw the boring 9-5 lifestyle in the US. And screw the legions of feminist landwhales.

It's funny, because I've never even considered trying to hook up with one while abroad, but here they are the only freaking options. Those and black chicks.

 

[bigneil]

I can definitely relate to the concept of women who are beneath us being convinced they are above us.

I recently dated a single mom, 29, with stretch marks, an ex-fiancée who just dumped her, no job, and no money, and she thought she was WAY too good for me. Compare her to my previous girl, 22, equally pretty, no stretch marks, no ex-fiancée's, no kids, and she adored me. As women approach 30, they suddenly want guys who are 30 (who think these women are WAY too old for them).

There is a simple reason for women's inflated egos. The 80/20 rule. The top 80% of women sleep with the top 20% of men. This means the bottom 80% of men have to share the bottom 20% of women.

That means a guy who is a 10 has slept with the girl who is a 10, 9, 8 and 7. The guy who is a 9 has slept with the 6, 5, 4 and 3.

Hence, a girl who is a 7 thinks she's too good for a guy who is 9. Due to their shameless self-service, women feel entitled to be with the hottest guy who ever used them.

 

[ubercat]

We are all interested in improving or we wouldn't be here. In a population distribution a guy like guru1000 is going to be in the top deviation. But you're still going to do pretty well as long as you're above the mean.

I reckon another feasible option is to change the gene pool you fish in

Why not consider immigrant girls.

My latest girlfriend is a Chinese immigrant nurse.

 

[ubercat]

Before that Chinese, Romanian, and Sri Lankan. All girls had cute faces skinny with curves and good manes of hair. I posted a photo of the latest one on a thread recently if anyone can be bothered poking around.

So basically good solid 7s. All had citizenship or permanent residency, degrees and good English. All were good girls and none of them branch swung on me. All were found here in Melbourne I didn't import anyone

So my overall point is I'm happy to work diligently to increase my value. But I want return on investment. If I become an above average man I deserves an above average woman. And I don't want to spend my whole home life battling for control of the frame.

Because of my cultural capital with an immigrant girl I am an 8 as opposed to being a 7 which wouldn't normally get me a 7.

And yes I've had dozens of euro Aussie girls. You can keep them.

Just my 2 cents worth guys but it's worked out pretty well for me.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I dont think the problem is that "its hard" I think that problem is that there is no proportion between the minimum requirements and work expected from you and what you get out of it.

No one complains that he has to work 8 hours per day as long as he gets 3k euros montly.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

I dont think the problem is that "its hard" I think that problem is that there is no proportion between the minimum requirements and work expected from you and what you get out of it.

No one complains that he has to work 8 hours per day as long as he gets 3k euros montly.

The issue is that our rate of return for the work amount required is drastically low while for the female is the exact opposite. The work expected is highly disproportional in general. Men have to put in 110% of the effort while a woman can put in 1% and still get away with it. A decent looking man could put in a month of time investing and still come out with no lays or maybe 4 while your fat, slooty, berniei bro girl can get action every night. The fact is that when you generally put the right effort into something, you still see results and success. With women, it is the ******* same regardless. Men workout to impress women, but I see women with fat slobs every day. Yall tell us to acquire money, but I'm getting passed on for bums on unemployment or for servers. Yall tell us to learn pua, well just look at this forum and the internet and general haha.

 

[Desdinova]

The issue is why should I put so much effort in a system rigged against me so I can put my **** in to a vagina.

This is the point I reached quite some time ago. I ended up deciding to only date women who made it obvious that they're interested in me and/or pursued me. Pursuing women is like putting money into a slot machine; You may win once in a while, but you're losing more than you're putting in.

So far, I haven't regretted giving up the pursuit of women. I took on an orbiter who's been interested in me for the past 2 years. I've never been treated so well by a woman in my life.

 

[Floydispink01]

I'm not sure how it works for you fella's but for me - i think the dating game is rigged in my favour when i don't go looking for it.

Looking back I’ve realised the best girls I’ve attracted and thus dated are when my mind is occupied with something else when we first meet. Granted, i'll approach and say 'hi' but the girl is simply secondary in my thoughts – I can take her or leave her. I have bigger priorities – like finishing a painting or preparing for my next fight. My happiness is not dictated by her but by me.

Now if I go out looking to chase poon, throwing out neg's and approaching everyone under the sun to spark interest then it simply won’t happen for me. Then your happiness is determined by her - anyone of them.

You have to have something going on for you in your life. Something you can be proud of. Something that interest's you that override's your interest for women. Much like when you was a young lad on the playground - playing with your toy cars was more of a priority than her.

 

[RangerMIke]

Walk away from women that don't make you happy. If a women is doing something you do not like then do not include her in your life. You don't like women riding the carousel then ignore them. It's really that easy. It a numbers game keep making dates and you will find women that you can be with.

We are a dimorphic tournament species of animal. Men and women are different. Men have a higher sex drive because the ramifications for men to be in relationships with women is counter intuitive to self preservation and long term happiness. So mother nature, to ensure reproduction, 'gifts' men with a higher sex drive. If we had a woman's sex drive we would have died off as a species eons ago. As such, men will take sex where ever they can get it. This is just the way it is.

The rules are not stacked against men, the rules are what they are, if you understand why people behave the way they do, you can adjust your behavior accordingly. The first step is to stop waiting and expecting women to act like men, and to act like a man yourself.

 

[CMNILS87]

You must be at the anger phase of "red pill". Life isn't fair......what's new dude? women can have **** 24/7 if they want. You need to be better than that. So if you go through a dry spell so what? This sounds like lack of options and inner game stuff. You have a good job, money, no disabilities, no diseases. Life sounds good, just no quality *****. I'd say go buy a fleshlight.

For comical purposes

 

[Yewki]

It's like telling someone they should give 110 percent for a ****ty minimum wage dead end job.

If someone is telling you to put in 110 percent for a woman, don't listen to that person anymore

 

[Trump]

The issue is that our rate of return for the work amount required is drastically low while for the female is the exact opposite. The work expected is highly disproportional in general. Men have to put in 110% of the effort while a woman can put in 1% and still get away with it.

Bro because you have had bad experiences you can't generalize. There are normal guys out there who have gotten a good looking girls number in 5 minutes, slept with her in 10.

You are spending hours trying to sell your product, and when it doesn't sell, you are blaming the customer for not recognizing how great the product is rather than have them realize they would be at a loss without it.

A decent looking man could put in a month of time investing and still come out with no lays or maybe 4 while your fat, slooty, berniei bro girl can get action every night. The fact is that when you generally put the right effort into something, you still see results and success. With women, it is the ******* same regardless. Men workout to impress women, but I see women with fat slobs every day. Yall tell us to acquire money, but I'm getting passed on for bums on unemployment or for servers. Yall tell us to learn pua, well just look at this forum and the internet and general haha.

Bro within 35 seconds the girl can tell if you are going to sex her up or if she is going to make your head spin. If you takes you longer than 2 min to realize this, you got to get more experience in life. You are obviously doing something wrong when you have to put in 110% effort in and are not getting sex. They know this and then they play you to see how desperate you are, and you fall in their game. Brutal.

 

[oOh Nasty]

I ended up deciding to only date women who made it obvious that they're interested in me and/or pursued me.

This + working on your own life to the best of your ability. Yeah it sucks that you're not getting exactly the kind of girl you're attracted to, but that orbiter 6 or 7 will make things a lot easier on your journey.

Work on your SMV nonstop. Keep working out and going for your ideal body. Keep saving and investing.

Without a doubt, it's obviously a pretty **** predicament we're in. However, we can either give up and become eunuchs or hermits, or we can take the road less traveled. Become part of the top percentile so you can have your pick.

Men in general are losing. But if you become a winner...you'll be one of a few hundred million. Because of how the average man (and even above-average man) is losing, the exceptional man's reward for winning exponentially increases.

 

[marmel75]

Bro because you have had bad experiences you can't generalize. There are normal guys out there who have gotten a good looking girls number in 5 minutes, slept with her in 10.

You are spending hours trying to sell your product, and when it doesn't sell, you are blaming the customer for not recognizing how great the product is rather than have them realize they would be at a loss without it.



Bro within 35 seconds the girl can tell if you are going to sex her up or if she is going to make your head spin. If you takes you longer than 2 min to realize this, you got to get more experience in life. You are obviously doing something wrong when you have to put in 110% effort in and are not getting sex. They know this and then they play you to see how desperate you are, and you fall in their game. Brutal.

Or to put in programming terms from one programmer to another, you have unhandled exceptions in your code that you decided not to bother with, then get mad when it starts crashing from them.

 

[Yewki]

I ended up deciding to only date women who made it obvious that they're interested in me and/or pursued me.

This is good advice but I feel like some people will misinterpret it. The key word here is date. Only date women who make it obvious they're interested.

That doesn't mean you should avoid approaching women unless they make it obvious. No, make a point to talk to every interesting girl you see. Don't wait for some sign before approaching. This is an all too common mistake. I see so many posts here asking if a girl is interested. She did this, she did that, is she interested? What does it mean? Meanwhile, they haven't even said "hello" to her.

If you wait for the girl to show obvious signs before doing anything, this is called playing not to lose. It's a good way to shield your ego, and a good way not to win.

 

[oOh Nasty]

This is good advice but I feel like some people will misinterpret it. The key word here is date. Only date women who make it obvious they're interested.

That doesn't mean you should avoid approaching women unless they make it obvious. No, make a point to talk to every interesting girl you see. Don't wait for some sign before approaching. This is an all too common mistake. I see so many posts here asking if a girl is interested. She did this, she did that, is she interested? What does it mean? Meanwhile, they haven't even said "hello" to her.

If you wait for the girl to show obvious signs before doing anything, this is called playing not to lose. It's a good way to shield your ego, and a good way not to win.

Yes! Approach all women and wait for them to show non-interest in you. Assume all women are interested until they've given enough signs that they're not interested.

This piece of advice is mainly for those who keep trying to "game" a girl who has shown obvious signs that she isn't interested. Basically, stop investing your attention to a girl who isn't responding to you. What's the threshold of attempts and non-response from her part before you NEXT her? Well, that's a different discussion in itself, as it has been made obvious that every situation is different, based on all of the posts in the DJD Forum. However, most of these posts almost have the same underlying response: NC / NEXT.

 

[guru1000]

Yewki, you are becoming a beast of late. Keep it up

 

[El Payaso]

Yes, it's more difficult for a man to get sex and easier for a woman to get sex but society values the former more than the latter.

Hence the stud vs slut phenomenon.

Would you rather have a key that can open any lock or a lock that can be opened by any key?

You were created a key. Be the key that can open any lock.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

This is the point I reached quite some time ago. I ended up deciding to only date women who made it obvious that they're interested in me and/or pursued me. Pursuing women is like putting money into a slot machine; You may win once in a while, but you're losing more than you're putting in.

So far, I haven't regretted giving up the pursuit of women. I took on an orbiter who's been interested in me for the past 2 years. I've never been treated so well by a woman in my life.

Yes, it's more difficult for a man to get sex and easier for a woman to get sex but society values the former more than the latter.

Hence the stud vs slut phenomenon.

Would you rather have a key that can open any lock or a lock that can be opened by any key?

You were created a key. Be the key that can open any lock.

Promiscous women don't look at it that way, but they look at it as "getting what they want". However it's so easy for any woman to open her legs and have several dudes that will hit in the same day, it's not really a big deal or hard at all. It's much harder for a man to do the same thing.