Why do vast majority of women want somebody so much better than themselves nowadays?

[RichardTheFrog]

dude in your examples, all the women you are talking about are still requiring somebody much better than themselves

a 170 lb slim man is still much much better than a chubby lazy woman. A man making 65K is still much more accomplished than a woman making 40

How about a Hooters girl making $40k/year.

Worthless, yet thinks she's worth the world. Thinks she's God's gift to the planet.

 

[jaymbrs]

Once again, who gives a sh*t?

If a woman can land a man who is better than her, then I say good for her. If I can land a woman more successful than me, good for me. Good for you if you can do the same.

You don't blame the women for trying. The blame is on men who settle for less if they can do better.

Women wouldn't be demanding this sh*t if most men didn't accommodate it. The more outlandish women's requests become, the more of a reflection it is on the state of men in general, men who play along with it.

You're pissed because you're following the rules of that game.

Settling really is in the eye of the beholder. IMO, my best friend ended up settling big time. But in his mind he found the perfect girl. I hear you, and don't disagree with you but there's more to it than what's on the surface.

I'm still single because I refuse to settle. I have dated a lot of girls and I have not been able to convince myself that any of them are the right fit. And get this, I even get **** from family and friends for being picky.

 

[Von]

Everyone wants stuff they don't have

Now its possible to have what you don't have without fear of ''consequences''.... (when I mean consequences = material or not deadly and unsolvagable)

Before you were STUCK with decision you made... so you made them carefully.

If you go into the women part: Women are biological always seeking control of their ENTIRE SPACE.... the more you expand her boundaries... the more she wants it, the more she must be that space.... now women have no need of male in terms of ''work-family-financial security etc...''... they work and raise kids (so biologically, her brain must OWN ALL OF IT... women brains never shutdown: they multitask naturally) ... they date multiple guys (so they own that dating space too) etc etc...

So if they can feel to have more ... they will seek it...

Like Amante Silvestre wrote: If you have a trick that work... of course you'll want to apply it again

Tha'ts why filing the woman with emotions is the only way to keep her....but no one is perfect and time does its work. Also add, that family education and school education hasn't been grooming anyone to be ''wife-husband-father-mother''... we basically have to write the book ourself.

Trials and Errors, each leaving a scar.

Sometimes our fear are our worst enemies, sometimes are intuition is right, or wrong placed etc.. etc...

The important part is living according to yourself. (being happy)

I have 3 views of myself: 1) The Happy Married Guy 2) The eternal single guy 3) The eternal single with plates lol

 

[AJ84]

Hey, if your friend is happy, then who are we to complain? I don't disagree with the point you make.

My point is only that if these tactics didn't work for women, they wouldn't do it. Men make it work because they accommodate the tactic. When a woman sees that it worked for someone else, guess what they try to do? The try to do the same thing.

If some guy here had a hot tip that works 80% of the time on how to land a hottie that is "out of your league", would you not try it? I know I would.

You know how some women try to shame men for having what they think are high standards for the ideal woman?

This is like the flip side of that. Would men want to be forced to settle for someone they are not attracted to just because the opposite sex thinks they should? No? So why should women? No one wants to settle if they don't have to. But yeah for most people there is wiggle room and I can tell you that women with high expectations who refuse to budge even a little end up with no one anyway. That's what I have noticed in my social circles.
There are lots of women out there who are not that inflexible around who they choose as mates, which is more likely to be revealed through in person engagement and time.

 

[Urbanyst]

Hey, if your friend is happy, then who are we to complain? I don't disagree with the point you make.

My point is only that if these tactics didn't work for women, they wouldn't do it. Men make it work because they accommodate the tactic. When a woman sees that it worked for someone else, guess what they try to do? The try to do the same thing.

If some guy here had a hot tip that works 80% of the time on how to land a hottie that is "out of your league", would you not try it? I know I would.

The two genders are constantly trying to get the best VALUE for the lowest price. For a long time, men were succeeding at this better than women by far. But in the past few decades women have flipped the script in all Western societies and in much of the developed world. As women gained education, they learned ways to out smart men and get better VALUE for a lower cost.

This is how the economy works in general. The dating market follows similar capitalistic trends the real economy follows. Best VALUE for the lowest price. Men are still in the process of re-calibrating to get better VALUE in the dating market as a reaction. Red pill, Manosphere and PUA books are all examples of men trying to regain an advantage in the market and outsmart women.

Women gained such a strong and powerful lead in recent years that it will probably take several decades to reverse the trend. Most of us probably won't live to see it. We are still in the early "awareness" stage where some guys are just starting to accept the problem, while most guys still live in blue pill denial. Nothing will change until the majority of men are red pill and men as a group start to implement legal, social and technical solutions.

 

[Von]

The two genders are constantly trying to get the best VALUE for the lowest price. For a long time, men were succeeding at this better than women by far. But in the past few decades women have flipped the script in all Western societies and in much of the developed world. As women gained education, they learned ways to out smart men and get better VALUE for a lower cost.

This is how the economy works in general. The dating market follows similar capitalistic trends the real economy follows. Best VALUE for the lowest price. Men are still in the process of re-calibrating to get better VALUE in the dating market as a reaction. Red pill, Manosphere and PUA books are all examples of men trying to regain an advantage in the market and outsmart women.

Women gained such a strong and powerful lead in recent years that it will probably take several decades to reverse the trend. Most of us probably won't live to see it. We are still in the early "awareness" stage where some guys are just starting to accept the problem, while most guys still live in blue pill denial. Nothing will change until the majority of men are red pill and men as a group start to implement legal, social and technical solutions.

It's interesting you talk about ''reversing trends''

Did you know in Sweden (the pro-feminist, supreme equality country) .... they are starting to reverse the trend? Women are pushing for ''going home rights'' .... meaning they wanna go back to the traditional dividing of roles.

Since the 1970's, guys were raised to be white-knight and follow women stuff.

Since the 1970's, women are raised to push beyond any boundaries.

Seems we reversed the roles based on society standard more than biological needs.

In the 1970's .... a lot of women following the ''sexual revolutions'' decided to sell their bodies for a LTR... (the emergence of Gold Digger) ... They were open about it: Give me money and a lifestyle.. and I will be your perfect wife. Alot found happiness like that.

 

[guru1000]

There is this woman I know who is 47 and single. She is 5'2, decent looking face, decent body. She makes like 40K a year. She doesn't want to date anybody who is not at least 5'11-6'0, maybe 200 lbs of ripped muscles and making at least 150-200K

A 47yo, 5’2 average woman with 40k income does not need a 6’0, 200lb, 200k income guy. She wants him.

Just as you allege you are currently making 180k per year, you may want to make 500k per year, but you don’t need to.

Wants <> Needs

Women will surrender their wants, but won’t surrender their needs.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

How about a Hooters girl making $40k/year.

Worthless, yet thinks she's worth the world. Thinks she's God's gift to the planet.

Haha. I just reread this post.

Why is she worthless? Hahaha.

I'm the one thinking about Hooters girls, they're not thinking about me. Haha.

 

[zekko]

Men used to hold all the economical power. But women now can support themselves nicely on thier own, and can often outearn men.
Men have also lost power in other ways. The courts now favor women in domestic accusations whereas they once might have looked the other way. Violence is increasingly a punishable offense, so man's "protective aggressive" role has been superceded by the government.
Meanwhile, the media has been playing up the importance of female sexuality, increasing women's value.

At one time, the average woman could marry the average man and would be getting a good deal. Now, a woman has to look around quite a bit to find a man who has more value than she does in the modern world.

 

[claudolfgeorgini]

Because there are guys who are willing to date these women (or at least bang them). This would all correct itself if we were somehow able to get every man to stop banging women under their league. A girl who is a 5/10 KNOWS she is 5/10, but she will behave how she is treated.

 

[Macaframalama]

A girl who is a 5/10 KNOWS she is 5/10, but she will behave how she is treated

Nah, these b!tches believe their BS. Same reason pure players selling wolf tickets can spit a little weak ass game in their ear and have them feeling like they're on top of the world. They are weak, gullible and an easy sell.