Why do so many guys not even know the BASICS

[Infern0]

Don't get me wrong I used to be one of those guys.

I was pretty AFC, I traded basically on looks alone which could initially attract girls I liked but did nothing in terms of keeping them around. I'd hook up with the odd hot girl in between relationships with girls that barely scraped my minimum standard until I got bored and finished them.

I used to always wonder why I couldn't keep a girl I really liked interested in me but the ones I thought were OK was easy. It was like some invisible force field that I couldn't get through despite my efforts.

Eventually I worked out what the problem was, and I can look back now at HB's I blew it with even after they had initial high interest. The common story of becoming over invested and AFC. Obviously with the Ones I didn't really care about I was acting correct, that's really the only difference.

What I'm saying is, I didn't even have the basic fundementals. Nobody taught me anything until I found online communities like this and had some sense slapped into me. All it really took was immersing myself into this stuff until it sunk in and then the game changed, nowadays making AFC mistakes would be like stabbing myself in the eye, I wouldn't do it.

But yeah when I think about almost everyone I know, none of them know any of this stuff, most of them settle for some fugly chick. It's shocking.

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

Bluepill is good for everybody except you, it benefits industry as you buy lot of crap and work more to buy more crap and pay for females,whole jewellery multi billion industry is based on blue pill only,fashion,car industry,education,fitness,wedding ... all benefit from rush after women.It benefits females around you,goverment,your mom,your female friends .... even single moms who get simps to help out with children.

Now red pill is dangerous ... it dangerous for business and females.Only men benefit from redpill.It takes power from business and females and gives it back to you - and nobody wants that.

Think ... if don't need expensive car,fashionable clothes,six pack,gifts and jewellery .... and women would love you for your personality and game and maybe looks - that would disaster for business,goverment and most females who can't make money themselves.So men are programmed to believe they need to pay or work to deserve female love or attention or sex.

Recently I met young and very beautifil girl.She has alpha boyfriend who is her ... pimp.That's right.She sits with him on the internet and looks for guys to suck their dck for $$$.They use this money for party and fun.The dude is her pimp, he lets other men put their dcks into her for some $$$ and she IS STILL WITH HIM.No flowers,no gifts, no anything.That's a power of being alpha male.If you need provide to female anything more than yourself you are beta provider.

 

[Thechamp]

Don't get me wrong I used to be one of those guys.

I was pretty AFC, I traded basically on looks alone which could initially attract girls I liked but did nothing in terms of keeping them around. I'd hook up with the odd hot girl in between relationships with girls that barely scraped my minimum standard until I got bored and finished them.

I used to always wonder why I couldn't keep a girl I really liked interested in me but the ones I thought were OK was easy. It was like some invisible force field that I couldn't get through despite my efforts.

Eventually I worked out what the problem was, and I can look back now at HB's I blew it with even after they had initial high interest. The common story of becoming over invested and AFC. Obviously with the Ones I didn't really care about I was acting correct, that's really the only difference.

What I'm saying is, I didn't even have the basic fundementals. Nobody taught me anything until I found online communities like this and had some sense slapped into me. All it really took was immersing myself into this stuff until it sunk in and then the game changed, nowadays making AFC mistakes would be like stabbing myself in the eye, I wouldn't do it.

But yeah when I think about almost everyone I know, none of them know any of this stuff, most of them settle for some fugly chick. It's shocking.

So what's the most basics ones not to **** up ?

 

[AttackFormation]

Blue pill and/or absentee dads

This is it.

 

[zekko]

Blue pill and/or absentee dads

Yeah, we have a nation full of males being raised by single mothers.

Also, men watch the romanticized version of love on TV and in the movies. If they would just get a little experience under their belt, they would realize that approach doesn't work. So they're brainwashed and don't have enough experience.

 

[Poon King]

Bluepill is good for everybody except you, it benefits industry as you buy lot of crap and work more to buy more crap and pay for females,whole jewellery multi billion industry is based on blue pill only,fashion,car industry,education,fitness,wedding ... all benefit from rush after women.It benefits females around you,goverment,your mom,your female friends .... even single moms who get simps to help out with children.

Now red pill is dangerous ... it dangerous for business and females.Only men benefit from redpill.It takes power from business and females and gives it back to you - and nobody wants that.

Think ... if don't need expensive car,fashionable clothes,six pack,gifts and jewellery .... and women would love you for your personality and game and maybe looks - that would disaster for business,goverment and most females who can't make money themselves.So men are programmed to believe they need to pay or work to deserve female love or attention or sex.

Recently I met young and very beautifil girl.She has alpha boyfriend who is her ... pimp.That's right.She sits with him on the internet and looks for guys to suck their dck for $$$.They use this money for party and fun.The dude is her pimp, he lets other men put their dcks into her for some $$$ and she IS STILL WITH HIM.No flowers,no gifts, no anything.That's a power of being alpha male.If you need provide to female anything more than yourself you are beta provider.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JohnyTheArrow again.

Good stuff.

 

[Betterz]

^^ tripled

 

[zekko]

Recently I met young and very beautifil girl.She has alpha boyfriend who is her ... pimp.That's right.She sits with him on the internet and looks for guys to suck their dck for $$$.They use this money for party and fun.The dude is her pimp, he lets other men put their dcks into her for some $$$ and she IS STILL WITH HIM.No flowers,no gifts, no anything.That's a power of being alpha male.

It takes two to tango. Surely you must admit this says as much about how trashy this woman is as how "alpha" the guy is. This woman is clearly either very damaged, or she is getting off on this behavior herself - of svcking various men's d!cks, and being a wh0re. She wouldn't be doing this if she wasn't either severely damaged or getting something out of it herself. Briffault's Law and all that.

I doubt that anyone here is deluded enough to think that this guy is so "alpha" that he could take ANY woman and get her to behave like that, just by dangling himself as the reward. The girl is clearly trash. She is still with him? More like why is he still with her? Yeah, he gets money, but his girlfriend is literally a wh0re. This is the kind of guy you want to set up as a role model?

 

[Tenacity]

Yeah this alpha male or beta male shyt is just way too overblown. It comes down to a numbers game and the individual characteristics of the girl in question. Some chicks I can get to fvck me within the first week of meeting them, some I can't. Some chicks flat out tell me to kick rocks when I approach them, some chicks not just give me their number but fall in love with me soon after. With both sets of chicks I'm the SAME guy with the same approach.

Forget the labels, just do the basic self improvement shyt (your looks, your finances, your car, your place, your clothing style, fitness, and your personality/conversational skills) and once you are efficient in all of those areas, then just GO OUT and meet women on a daily basis.

You approach 20 chicks, get 11 numbers, get 6 dates, fvck 3 of them, start a relationship with 1 of them.

That's the game, keep it simple and stupid please. I honestly don't know if I'm an alpha male or beta male, in some cases I'm more aggressive and leading the situation, and in some cases I'm falling back and more passive. Sometimes I come off to the girl like I don't "give a fvck," and sometimes I come off like I'm jealous or thirsty or even semi-clingy. Sometimes I'm more of an a.sshole to the chick in question, and sometimes I'm more of a gentleman or what they call a "sweetheart".

It just depends. That's why this entire alpha/beta lingo and labeling is stupid in my opinion.

 

[LMFAO]

Men are too busy slaving away at work and other things, while the girls from the age of 13 work on the best ways to manipulate men.

Men's survival is based on going out to the world and making it. Women's survival in human history has been based on getting with a man/manipulating him to the best of her extent - it is her number 1 priority above all else. As such you are in this position where women, even from the age of 18, excel at game and undertake what I call ruthless pragmatism when dating men while men live in a fvcking fairytale and can't see the world for what it is. Not only that but they don't even want to know about it, most are in complete fvcking denial.

I went on a date today with an entitled b1tch off OKCupid who was at least honest enough to tell me that she's been on a **** load of dates so much so she feels like an alcoholic, her friend told her to do so (group think at work). They go on a fvckload of dates pick and choose who they want to **** and marry, while many men view themselves as lucky to date any 6. A truly sad state of affairs.

If you want to escape from that reality swallow the red fvcking pill. You passion is your fvcking self. Women come secondary, if they want to join the ride and can bring enough value then great, if not you have yourself to take care of.

 

[SgtSplacker]

I think all dudes start off going by what their parents, tv/movies and first female friends say, I know I did. It was all about fairy tale love back then, and talking on the phone all night until 6AM. Women were the beauty and I was the beast.

Now it's more like those porno movies when the dude pulls up to a girl on the sidewalk car still rolling and offers her $50 to get in the car to take off her cloths.

 

[MLU]

I used to be that guy just a few months ago and it's not fun(we all know)... but I'm still working on shhiting that AFC out of me forever, dope post by the way A GREAT EYE-OPENER!

 

[Trump]

Bluepill is good for everybody except you, it benefits industry as you buy lot of crap and work more to buy more crap and pay for females,whole jewellery multi billion industry is based on blue pill only,fashion,car industry,education,fitness,wedding ... all benefit from rush after women.It benefits females around you,goverment,your mom,your female friends .... even single moms who get simps to help out with children.

Now red pill is dangerous ... it dangerous for business and females.Only men benefit from redpill.It takes power from business and females and gives it back to you - and nobody wants that.

Think ... if don't need expensive car,fashionable clothes,six pack,gifts and jewellery .... and women would love you for your personality and game and maybe looks - that would disaster for business,goverment and most females who can't make money themselves.So men are programmed to believe they need to pay or work to deserve female love or attention or sex.

That's a power of being alpha male.If you need provide to female anything more than yourself you are beta provider.

I get this...but I don't think its that black and white and all about money. Yeah you don't want to waste your money on a girl and not get anything in return, but to spend a little and get some sex/hang out in return is not that big of deal. You pick the right stock or know the right person you could easily make the money back. The nice cars, clothes, homes that some men want for themselves, they want to tell the world they have the best and have done something with their lives, it's not usually all about women.

I think it's more about the girl not getting on your nerve and taking half your stuff by doing nothing. Are we going to be 65 and be proud that we didn't spend $1000 a month on a girl we wanted to sleep with when we were younger? As long as she doesn't break you, wear on your nerve, or take half your stuff by doing nothing, and they are adding to you life, I think to spend some coin on them is OK.

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

I think it's more about the girl not getting on your nerve and taking half your stuff by doing nothing. Are we going to be 65 and be proud that we didn't spend $1000 a month on a girl we wanted to sleep with when we were younger? As long as she doesn't break you, wear on your nerve, or take half your stuff by doing nothing, and they are adding to you life, I think to spend some coin on them is OK.

I completly agree,it's much cheaper than a wh0re.If you manage it get sexy by average 30 times per month that's only 33.33$ per orgasm, that's way cheaper than any hooker and quality of service is so much better.

 

[zekko]

I get this...but I don't think its that black and white and all about money. Yeah you don't want to waste your money on a girl and not get anything in return, but to spend a little and get some sex/hang out in return is not that big of deal. You pick the right stock or know the right person you could easily make the money back. The nice cars, clothes, homes that some men want for themselves, they want to tell the world they have the best and have done something with their lives, it's not usually all about women.

This is the old model, before feminism. The man provided security, wealth, and support, and the woman provided sex, housekeeping, and children. Now women can make their own money, and the whole system has been skewed.

Now that women can make their own living, there really is no need for men to provide for them financially. But many women think the man should provide, while they blow all their own money on credit cards, lol.

In the old world, the deal was fair. In the new world, it's all screwed up.

 

[Skyline]

I agree with you Tenacity, give yourself a title and it will own you. I don't live by titles of any sort and I hope some people realize this.

I was watching a T.V show on Netflix called "Beyond Scared Straight." Basically, it's about a bunch of young kids, from as young as 8 and as old as 17, that cause trouble and are placed under "at risk teens." The common ages on the show are 12-15. These kids literally have no discipline, the most common thing they do is talk back, fight, steal, stay out late, sneak out, party with older guys/people, smoke weed, drink alcohol, drive without a license, and even start or want to join a gang. A few kids were even there for grand theft auto, possesionn of a firearm, home invasion, and even armed robbery. Most of the kids are barely in 9th grade!

There was reoccurring issue that I saw in the show however, it was the lack of a proper father figure. Every household consisted of either a single mom or if there was a father, as uncommon as it was, he was very weak and passive. The father's would either spoil the kid or basically let them do whatever, no discipline. The mom wasn't really any better either.

You either had a single mom that basically had no idea "how to kids" or you had both parents who had no idea what they were doing together. I never saw a single FATHER raising a kid on the show either, well on the 2 seasons on Netflix that I saw.

I just don't get it. I learned my discipline from this site, yet you have kids having to be "scared straight" by maximum security inmates to learn theirs, and sometimes it doesn't even work. I personally think this generation, and the next, needs more discipline.

 

[Buck83]

This is the old model, before feminism. The man provided security, wealth, and support, and the woman provided sex, housekeeping, and children. Now women can make their own money, and the whole system has been skewed.

Now that women can make their own living, there really is no need for men to provide for them financially. But many women think the man should provide, while they blow all their own money on credit cards, lol.

In the old world, the deal was fair. In the new world, it's all screwed up.

I personally wouldn't consider it 'screwed' in that sense. For me it's worked out pretty awesome. My wife has her masters, co-owns her own business, and brings home more than me. We are smart about it and both contribute and because of this we spent half the month of Nov last year in Brazil. Went to Dom Rep the year before that. Both own motorcycles. Just have to be smart about it.

Anyways, when meeting women that are independent/self sufficient, I think it's more about being fun, wild, mysterious, a little bossy etc. Yes you have to have your sht together, but that's all secondary to enjoying your life.

But I agree with the JohnnyTheArrow, the US is a fvcking vanity fair. We are controlled by consumerism. One of the (many) reasons we are saving to Expat in 4 or 5 years. Maybe to Ecuador or Peru.