Why do men fight reality so hard

[Bingo-Player]

I see so many beta fools everywhere i go , even my friends are blue pill die hards

Here is examples from 3 of my friends

One guy has been chasing a chick for almost 3 years and she’s still got him running around in circles and he still wants her he believes one day she will see sense and they will marry................ really is painful to watch

Another has happily settled into a relationship with a subpar woman just so he can have puss every other night and thinks this is the best thing to happen to him since sliced bread....

The third one tells me he knows how to “play the game” yet i watch him repeatedly act like a little girl around women and has just had his head seriously fvcked up by a hb 7 – to the point where it’s virtually warped his personality

Every single one of these guys believe i am too “blunt” and too “cold” with women and i need to soften up a bit ......if only they knew the half of it

I don’t like the way the game is at the moment so i choose virtually not to play .....if i see a chick making an effort with me or wants to make an effort with me i will make the effort to return it ,

however women seem to have become so arrogant now that the idea of making any kind of move on a guy is seen as beneath them ,

This irritates me so i prefer to get on with other aspects of my life such as financial independence ,career etc

I have already fvcked more than twice the amount of chicks the average guy in his life will and i have had plenty of experiences with endless amounts of pus*y

It’s nice to get laid yea but it aint like opening Pandora’s box for me no more , and to be quite frank the investment women want these days quite simply isn’t worth the return

Will i regret this in the future ? who knows at the very least i will have the self satisfaction of knowing ive never had to beg for sex in one way or another

 

[Between_The_Lines]

And here I was thinking a friend of mine was the worse case of getting strung along that I've ever heard of (year and a half of chasing one girl, might have made out with her a handful of times, but no sex, ever) Your buddy doubled that!

You can't fight their tenacious adherence to their own version of 'reality' either. I commented earlier about how I (stupidly) found myself in a lengthy argument with an AFC a short while ago - stupid because I know much better.

No one is in danger of dying because they've got blue pill juice coursing through their veins, and sure it messes things up on a large scale (I mean women and their entitlement issues, the attention whoring etc.), but debating them about the merits of going absolute no contact if they dump you or how you ought to view her as something closer to your daughter in the context of a relationship will puzzle them at best, enrage and cause them to cling more tightly to blue pill-ism at worst - it's not going to change anything.

What brought most of us over to this forum to begin with? Vexation, a painful break up, general lack of success with women. Wish them the best - and by "best" I mean either an uninterrupted ride down a path of delusions lined with white picket fences, controlling feministic women and fellow pot-bellied barbeque chicken guzzling manginas from here until the very end, or a nice head-on collision into the 'ol trusty brick wall of reality - and carry on with your life unperturbed.

 

[LMFAO]

however women seem to have become so arrogant now that the idea of making any kind of move on a guy is seen as beneath them ,

They don't need to, guys are throwing themselves at them every minute of the day. Women don't need to make any effort in meeting guys. Even in online dating many believe that they shouldn't have to pay to meet a guy so you'll typically find the hottest girls on the free sites like Tinder and OKCupid. Most of them don't do any searching on those sites, and just respond to any guy they think is cute or could fvck them good, if he passes their hundred sh!t tests, if not just ignore him. Pretty much just like real life, walk down the street or walk into a club and wait for the men to audition themselves. Then at many a time choosing the biggest idiot.

The only way to play it is to either: just completely exit the game and concentrate on yourself and then go back in or that plus investing the time and effort in order to gain the abundance needed to play girls at their own game. RSD Todd mentioned that when he does online dating he had some girls admit to him that they saw 6 guys that week, even another guy before him the very same day. You can't compete with that as a typical beta guy who jacks off to porn at home at his mum's house and is in love with a girl he had one date with who wouldn't kiss him where he was just one guy out of many that week and of 10 guys hitting on her on just in her phone. Such guys are living in fantasy land, and unfortunately that's about 90% of guys out there.

 

[VikingKing]

Because men don't want to believe women are this screwed up, decietful, ungreatful, backstabbing, and especially some men don't like to believe women have way more power in dating an marriage. It's scary when you are new to this fact.

Why would a woman believe in love or be loyal when she can so easily replace a man.

Men are disposable but women are perishable.

Also society and parents usually brain wash the male child.

 

[VikingKing]

And here I was thinking a friend of mine was the worse case of getting strung along that I've ever heard of (year and a half of chasing one girl, might have made out with her a handful of times, but no sex, ever) Your buddy doubled that!

You can't fight their tenacious adherence to their own version of 'reality' either. I commented earlier about how I (stupidly) found myself in a lengthy argument with an AFC a short while ago - stupid because I know much better.

No one is in danger of dying because they've got blue pill juice coursing through their veins, and sure it messes things up on a large scale (I mean women and their entitlement issues, the attention whoring etc.), but debating them about the merits of going absolute no contact if they dump you or how you ought to view her as something closer to your daughter in the context of a relationship will puzzle them at best, enrage and cause them to cling more tightly to blue pill-ism at worst - it's not going to change anything.

What brought most of us over to this forum to begin with? Vexation, a painful break up, general lack of success with women. Wish them the best - and by "best" I mean either an uninterrupted ride down a path of delusions lined with white picket fences, controlling feministic women and fellow pot-bellied barbeque chicken guzzling manginas from here until the very end, or a nice head-on collision into the 'ol trusty brick wall of reality - and carry on with your life unperturbed.

I don't know man, in 2011 79% of suicides are men. I doubt even the majority of those men killed themselves over women directly, but a lot of mens problems today are due to the in unbalance of power.

 

[hockeyfreak79]

What's the saying? Hard work pays off...I'm sure there are a bunch other.

This pretty much applies to everything BUT woman & relationships. They just haven't figured that out yet. End of story

 

[The Duke]

Because men don't want to believe women are this screwed up, decietful, ungreatful, backstabbing, and especially some men don't like to believe women have way more power in dating an marriage. It's scary when you are new to this fact.

Why would a woman believe in love or be loyal when she can so easily replace a man.

Men are disposable but women are perishable.

Also society and parents usually brain wash the male child.

Those are some true words spoken like a Veteran. It took me until my 30's and a divorce before I woke up to it.

 

[Poon King]

Because men don't want to believe women are this screwed up, decietful, ungreatful, backstabbing, and especially some men don't like to believe women have way more power in dating an marriage. It's scary when you are new to this fact.

Why would a woman believe in love or be loyal when she can so easily replace a man.

Men are disposable but women are perishable.

Also society and parents usually brain wash the male child.

THIS.

To add.. once a man faces reality he is forced to deal with it. Not only does he have to deal with a whole new world view.. but he also has to face the reality that most of his past choices were wrong and stupid.

To make good choices one must live in reality. Otherwise you are destined to make stupid self-destructive choices.. which will lead to frustration, beta anger and beta status.

Wisdom is the key to everything. Its what every man needs to thrive. This is something that can be derived from knowledge, when combined with experience. If you can apply reason to raw facts, then you can derive real truths about the world. Wisdom or reasoning is rarely taught in school these days. In fact, legislators are pushing for more "basic education" such as the "Three R's" (which means they cannot spell "Arithmetic" right off the bat).

Teaching knowledge-only education means emphasis on testing as a means of measuring education, and today's educators live in fear of the standardized test. We want our students to be little robots who barf up memorized answers, without thought, analysis, reasoning, or wisdom.

Most people today live based on belief over wisdom. This is what is sold to them, and the reason why our legislators are so keen on standardized testing and knowledge-based learning. They do not want people to learn how to reason or how to analyze anything. Because if they did, they would see through the smoke-screen of our daily lives and the lies routinely fed to us by the media.

Society cannot afford for men to live in reality. Men who live in reality will stop being pawns and white knights for women. Men who live in reality will stop being "good consumers" who blow all their money on bullsh!t (and women). Men who live in reality will only do what benefits them. Unfortunately.. what benefits the individual man is not what benefits society as a whole.

Therefore, a large number of men must remain blind and stupid for the greater good (for alphas and women to thrive in a controlled environment at the expense of the disposable beta male).

 

[Riprock713]

What's the saying? Hard work pays off...I'm sure there are a bunch other.

This pretty much applies to everything BUT woman & relationships. They just haven't figured that out yet. End of story

First of all let me tell you I am beta as fvck, But I dont understand how you guys do it, I just dont find many girls interested, maybe my problem is I dont approach women, but I work out every day have packed on quite a bit of muscle semi - confident, but just cant seem to do well with women. I just wish I knew how you guys adapted to the DJ \alpha way..

 

[Bingo-Player]

In my case it wasnt so much HOW but more WHY

WHY was i going to adapt the Alpha route over the more ignorant “easy - life” beta route ?

Well because i had already suffered enough pain through various encounters with reality (women)

i decided fvck it instead of letting the wound heal just to do this all over again im gonna tear the skin off and start from scratch

hurt like hell the first couple of weeks / months but now i feel total harmony .......i watch guys bending over backwards to impress chicks , stressing over how to speak to them will she like this will she like that ?

“i need a new £100 shirt & jeans to go out tonight or she wont wanna speak to me”

Nah fvck that lmao i really don’t give a fvck anymore im a good looking guy with a great personality i aint degrading myself to begging no b*tch to give me the time of day


All hail poon king

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Good post OP,

Important to note that the outlook of betas (males and females), is actually just a (relatively small) part of the wider universal blue-pill culture that engulfs nearly every aspect of modern (Western) civilisation.

The reason blue-pill culture thrives is because it is passive, relatively certain, unchanging and therefore non-threatening. The red-pill is a hard swallow because it means opening one's eyes to reality, as you say. The immediate short-term transition out of blue-pill conditioning is one of the most difficult any human will ever experience.

I consider myself one of the lucky ones because my parents allowed my exposure to satire from my early teens and therefore, my acknowledgment and acceptance of red-pill realities came much easier. I was never wholly conditioned to the blue-pill, and though I back-slide with women every-so-often, my general outlook on life usually affords my saving graces.

As far as converting friends/family is concerned, it is possible, but doses of red have to be administered little and often, opposed to immediate and profound saturation. It depends on the patient's external situation (outside of relationship status, as well as within). Other extrinsic blue side-effects will likely be present and it usually isn't until desperation with personal circumstance arises, when ultimate red-pill immersion can be administered.

Red-pill existence can be (and usually is) even easier than blue; results, the IDGAF attitude. But the initial dosing and resulting contradictions and contraindications of blue and red simultaneously make for an unbearable conflicted existence in the short-medium term. But when red-immersion is complete, life becomes better than one can ever have imagined under blue-pill saturation.

 

[om1xr]

This reminded me of a quote from Scarface: "All i have in this world is my Balls and my word and i don't break them for none"

Men without Nuts are allowing people and especially hot women to break their balls very often because they hadn't experienced the abundance reality and the thought of that pvssy/hot women isn't that big deal.

Some women are fun and make great companions; no question about that. But when you get the experiences of spinning/dating more than 3 or 5 girls at a time and you meet new girls regularly then you are more concerned about what pvssy are you going to drop than thinking about a particular date lol.

It all comes to having Balls, Don't Give a Fvck, Letting go of attachment or possessions if you know what I mean.

 

[LMFAO]

Some women are fun and make great companions; no question about that. But when you get the experiences of spinning/dating more than 3 or 5 girls at a time and you meet new girls regularly then you are more concerned about what pvssy are you going to drop than thinking about a particular date lol.

It all comes to having Balls, Don't Give a Fvck, Letting go of attachment or possessions if you know what I mean.

When you have 7 to 10 or so girls on your phone you are sometimes even happy one of them is flaking so you can concentrate on the other ones. A girl flaked last week, I just replied "lol" and actually I was quite happy about it.

The route to success with women is building p$ssy abundance so you can be on a level playing field with their c0ck abundance (the only difference is that most women need to put zero to little effort in doing so). Once at this level your indifference to them and their sh!t comes out naturally.

Simply enough build networks of phone numbers from your social circle, cold approaches and online dating. If you look even half normal and have decent game you can get 10 phone numbers in a week. Take them out, fvck them do as you wish. Eventually some will flake, some will stay there. You get some more phone numbers. You eventually end up with 3-5 girls you can see on a regular basis and you can filter from there on your terms or look for other girls from there. At the same time work on yourself and increase your value. That's how you fvcking do it.

Compare that with the reality of 97% of guys out there with their wishful thinking of meeting the woman of their dreams one day. Going out on one date in 3 months and thinking she's the one, when she just thinks you're a beta fvck pathetic loser who is worth nothing.

 

[om1xr]

The route to success with women is building p$ssy abundance

This is what I'm talking about. Most guys try to master the IDGF mindset/attitude but without abundance of women/pvssy in your real life you won't get to that state of mind simply because you are still needy and still putting pyssy on pedestal and make it a really big deal.

but to get to the abundance phase you will fail many times but every failure or obstacle is going to be a learning step toward women/pvssy abundance. after sometimes you will find your own style and make your own rules about dating women and you will find that a lot of rules that are advised here don't fit with your game style or lifestyle in general.

 

[bonnerman]

I wish I could be more like you (seriously man **** being a beta)

 

[hockeyfreak79]

Great thread & responses! IMO this is redpill at it's foundation & I love it.

Abundance mentality plain & simple. It's pretty crazy I would have to say a majority of my exs/plates had some pathetic dude pining after them. Some years later too!

More than like they are addicts, that can't kick their habbit! The study below is mostly about women pining over death but it definitely coincides with bp betas.

"Long term grief activates neurons in the brain's reward centres which may prompt an addiction-like response. " = Beta exs pining

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...or-lost-love-can-be-physically-addictive.html


https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/08/five-minutes-of-alpha-fifty-years-of-pining/

 

[Zarky]

God damn, posts 13 and 14 in this thread are so f*cking spot-on. Nice work gentlemen.

 

[saberu]

The fact is if these men put 10% as much effort into getting into shape (ie hitting the gym) or being more financially successful then they would have at least three times as much ***** as they do now and feel better about themselves.