Why do low value girls love the game more?

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Is it just me or have you noticed how much hard work lower value (HB5-6) girls are compared to proper stadard ones - HB7+? And how much more they are AWs.

Case in point:

Friend of mine picking up a sports car tommorow from Germany so we are flying out to drive it back down the autobahn (no speed limit).

There's half German girl (27, HB5-6 tops) in accounts who I rarely speak to. Shoot the sh*t with her a bit today about where we are going there on email (I've never been). She is quite funny. Some good rapport. No really flriting at all just asking for differant phrases etc. She is lapping it up. Anyway - never really spoke to her before so I was like "want to swap numbers". The cheeky b*tch comes back with an "i'll think about it". I just left it at that.

I've noticed this with the majority of low valuers - they seem to love game more than the result.

Is it because they are used to dealing with AFC's all day? Or is it because the higher value ones not courted as much as they seem more unapproachable?

You simply don't get this sort of games with the high value ones - they are much more straight to deal with - what I have seen anyway.

Conversly, im hungover to sht today having been up all night banging some HB8 restaurant manager who I pulled in the City last night,and spinning a couple of other notables, all 8s and aboves. I never see this sort of thing with them.

Whats with the low value ones? is it that they like spinning out the game more for ego-validation? If it wasn't someone I work with I'd be like "tell you what - forget it".
 

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Truebrit said:
Whats with the low value ones? is it that they like spinning out the game more for ego-validation? If it wasn't someone I work with I'd be like "tell you what - forget it".

Ding ding ding. Low self esteem, wanting you to PROVE yourself to them. Been dogged out in the game way to much. Pumped and dumped crew. Want the attention, don't want the pain, really don't want the pain of being alone.
 

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Truebrit -

I personally wouldn't know if the unattractive ones are "tougher" to hook up with, as I've only gone for attractive women my whole life. Now, as far as attractive women being difficult, I'll answer that with a definite yes. Not all attractive women are difficult of course, as in the past I have so effortlessly hooked up with and f*cked them, but I will definitely say the majority of them are a project and a half.
 

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Truebrit said:
Whats with the low value ones? is it that they like spinning out the game more for ego-validation? If it wasn't someone I work with I'd be like "tell you what - forget it".
That's exactly what it is.

Occaisionally I see this. The "you gotta work for this pvssy" attitude. It validates their ego and creates the illusion they are less of a commodity. Pay it no mind.

EDIT-- I was just thinking of a couple girls I know who are like this. HB 6's at best. One is a verifiable slvt, the other is more or less a princess. I think the princess gets her attitude from her upbringing; I have spoken with her at work and I got the impression her father and brothers more or less catered to her, so there is a sense of entitlement there. Plus she is black; Ive found this attitude common in black women who are fairly cute.
The other chick is a white girl who seems to attract a lot of black men, and has apparent success in leveraging them to and fro. Why is beyond me; I do not find her even remotely attractive. They spend tons of money on her...cracks me up.
 

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First off, women are not "low value" just because they aren't good looking... same goes for guys. This girl has probably gotten enough attention from losers (and may have dated a couple in the beginning) who are desperate to get laid, or players looking for easy targets to fill a vacant time slot, that she doesn't just give out her number without careful consideration... In the end, most girls want that guy that doesn't care about her imperfections and wants her for her... someone who is in it for personality.

What you've run into here is in fact a girl with high self esteem... and there's nothing wrong with her for that fact. There will eventually be a guy to come along and admire that single quality and she really could give a **** if she's a 5/10.

A girl with low self esteem would just sleep with a guy to keep him around in some capacity and brag to her friends that she has a boyfriend.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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Truebrit said:
I've noticed this with the majority of low valuers - they seem to love game more than the result.

I've seen that as well. However, I've found that ugs, and "low valuers" as you put it, are generally not as receptive to being gamed in the first place. It's like they're on guard waiting for the "too good to be true" shoe to drop.

Kinda like an ingrained ego defense mechanism. Can't get hurt if they don't play the game, you know?
 

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I just get that she wasn't interested, dude. Why make it out to be all about her issues? Can't take the hit?
 

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mothballs said:
First off, women are not "low value" just because they aren't good looking.
Uhhhhhh... what?

And my pizza isn't low value just because it's gone completely stale. I'm sure some homeless will still eat it.
 

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Just checked my work emails...

Been away all weekend but logged in to work just now and she emailed it early afternoon on Friday. I'm not going to bother doing anything with it now because its going to validate her earlier actions, and lets face it she is just a 6.

I'm not 100% sure why I did ask for it. If im honest I think it was because I had hangover horn from the night before and because of her low value she just looked like an easy opportunity in the open plan office (it wouldnt be the first time).

Onwards and upwards.
 

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Mr. Me said:
I just get that she wasn't interested, dude. Why make it out to be all about her issues? Can't take the hit?
Sure I can take a hit - I probably take more hits than successes overall but who cares? Thats the game - you've got to be in it to win it.
 

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mothballs said:
First off, women are not "low value" just because they aren't good looking... same goes for guys. This girl has probably gotten enough attention from losers (and may have dated a couple in the beginning) who are desperate to get laid, or players looking for easy targets to fill a vacant time slot, that she doesn't just give out her number without careful consideration... In the end, most girls want that guy that doesn't care about her imperfections and wants her for her... someone who is in it for personality.

What you've run into here is in fact a girl with high self esteem... and there's nothing wrong with her for that fact. There will eventually be a guy to come along and admire that single quality and she really could give a **** if she's a 5/10.

A girl with low self esteem would just sleep with a guy to keep him around in some capacity and brag to her friends that she has a boyfriend.
I disagree. I think its about trying to magic value out of thin air by having a set routine or what some people call "playing hard to get". Also, I am sure she has bragged to her collegues that I asked for her number already.

High valuers dont need to play that game because their social capital is high enough to start with. Its the differance between someone telling you that they are good at something and showing you they are good at something.

It's also, as been noted, a self-defence mechanism that is ultimately self-destructive as only mates with a scarcity mentality are going to perservere in any way with such a poor start from a low valuer. Net result - she ends up with someone of similar standard to herself.
 

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Truebrit said:
I was like "want to swap numbers". The cheeky b*tch comes back with an "i'll think about it". I just left it at that.

I've noticed this with the majority of low valuers - they seem to love game more than the result.
She just had low interest in getting to know you more than she already did..

A woman who was attracted to you ,and who wanted to spend time with you, would have written down her number at warp speed and handed to you with that BIG beaming smile....you had already done some spade work with her and now,when you asked for the order, she baulked.


This has little to do with her perceived "value" , she just could care less.

Move ahead.
 
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Haha, I had the exact same experience when I first got into the game. I remember being at this club one of the first times I went sarging and I found myself hitting on the ugliest of girls because if they blew me out it won't be no big potatoes on my ego.

Oddly enough, I would hit on all the fat/ugly chicks and I would get nowhere, and I was genuinely trying my hardest too, lol. I was like "wtf, I'm doing YOU a favor here".

Then I would hit on all the 7-8's and they would be much more receptive. I think the 7-8's are much easier to game overall. Asian Playboy hasa hotties vs. notties comparison. The not so good looking chicks rarely get hit on and when they do, usuall its some guy trying to tool them and a lot of times they'll turn guys down just to bring up their own ego.

The 7-8's are more socially developed and undersatnd the game much better and are usually a lot more apt to accept IOI's from a guy.
 

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Plain Janes are more jaded then hot chicks generally, apt to be more frustrated and bitter because guys have been difficult for her to obtain as they would if she was hot; they've been fooled, misled and used, and dumped, so she tends to keep a skeptical eye out when approached by a good looking guy keeping a "too good to be true/what's his motive?" outlook on the sitch;

She could also be a plain jane but have high self esteem and not give herself to just anyone who hits on her;

Women, hot or not, don't base a guy's attractiveness on how she herself rates in the looks department, she either thinks you're very good looking, average good looking or not her type, which is one reason fuglies hit on good looking men they find attractive; conversely, there are fuglies who don't think you're all that attractive (in their eyes) and so they don't hit on you.

A hot chick may seem easier to game or approach in comparison, but it may be more likely that she relishes the attention and encourages it, knowing how it usually goes for her. So, she dresses in an alluring way to obtain it, she goes to popular clubs and places where she'll be seen instead of the local watering hole, she conducts herself in a manner to have guys approach, dancing provactively, talking loudly near you, for example. She favors being seen as the hottest chick in the room garnering all the male attention to the envy of all the other women there.

Don't kid yourselves, gentlemen. It's not all about your studly good looks. There's a lot more going on and it has nothing to do with you.
 

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I doubt she was low value. If she was you wouldn't be starting threads about her. No I think you liked her and are genuinely upset that she rejected your gambit. Maybe she had you all figured out.
 

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