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My situation is very complex so I'll do the best to explain it. I'm the kid in school who is good at everything. I play guitar in the jazz band, play varsity soccer and am captain of the state championship hockey team, I have a 4.31 GPA, not to mention I can get a full ride to any art school in the country for my paintings. I have alot of friends and make people laugh easily. Most people even say that I could be a comedian. Also, I don't drink or do drugs and I think I'm pretty good looking. My life is perfect and it seems like I shouldn't have any problems meeting girls.

Well, I don't have any problem talking or introducing myself to them. The problem is that they never seem receptive to me. Most give me condescending looks like i'm some kind of weirdo. It drives me crazy. Its unfair that all the pot smoking, pant sagging a--holes get all the girls while guys like me get sh--t!! What could I possibly be doing wrong? I don't have a confidence problem, so is it just them?
 

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either they think you're already taken because you're so damn good at everything OR you're lying your ass off about how good at everything you are. if what you are saying is true then girls should be all over you. don't lie to make yourself look good because it's not going to help. just tell the truth. IF what you're saying is true then i have no idea why they act like that other than they might think you're already taken
 

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Asdfghjklll said:
either they think you're already taken because you're so damn good at everything OR you're lying your ass off about how good at everything you are. if what you are saying is true then girls should be all over you. don't lie to make yourself look good because it's not going to help. just tell the truth. IF what you're saying is true then i have no idea why they act like that other than they might think you're already taken
I agree, I am calling BS on this too. Anyone who is captain of their hockey team would have to be swatting girls away left and right, end of story.

You are better off telling the truth. If you are, than I am truly sorry you are unable to get women. It will be harder after school for you, infinitely harder...
 

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Pot smoking a--holes are rebelious and at the high school age rebels are hot. At least this was the case when I went to high school, but these guys posting before me are correct if you're the captian of a hockey team you should have no problem with girls unless you're trying for the emo chicks.
 

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Haha you guys giving advice are so lost. I'm the captain of the baseball and hockey teams at my school and nothings a given.

I'm getting success now, but there was a time when i was the Co-captain on both teams and couldn't trick anyone into making out with me.

To the OP, check out my journal, I'm about to update it and I feel like we have quite a bit in common.
 
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at our school, hockey isn't really recognized. in fact, nobody comes to our games. anyway, it is not b.s. I just have no luck and it fvcking pisses me off. I don't mean to toot my own horn. I came here for advice and help to see if anybody else had the same problem.
 

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Then chill out. Keep being the way you are. You say you're charismatic, sociable and fun. If you're not lying, you have everything you have to suceed. If you choose a good major, you'll get far and live happy.You're not the best person because you have girls at every side, you're good at everyting,you dont need girls to tell you they love you.
 

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Do you want to know what some of the real problems might be? I've got a couple of these problems, and usually you won't even notice that you have these problems unless you step back. No one really mentions many of these. I've got some of the same problems as you, minus the being good at everything LOL. :crackup:

*You might be overdoing it with the comedy. Girls want guys who are funny, not excessively funny comedians. This is an alternate route into the friend zone where girls will only hang around you so that you cheer them up, making them laugh their *ss off. It's happened to me, and girls don't even complain about their problems, they just come to me, I make em laugh, then they go on about their lives. I just mentioned this because you said you can make people laugh easily. Have you actually seen an amateur comedian outside comedy clubs? Whether you have or not, they often carry that same mentality outside comedy clubs (I've got a friend whos an aspiring comedian). Commanding attention too much is often a bad thing.

*You aim to please too much. This means that you always want to say whats "right." This is AFC-ish behavior, as you seek justification from an OUTSIDE source, not from within yourself. Real men don't do this. I've had this problem too......have you ever said something funny, then when people are laughing you look to the girl you are interested and tried to make sure she heard what you said and that she's laughing too?

*Girls are JEALOUS OF YOU! This typically only happens in high school, where everyones an equal, and there really is no female and male roles in school (blame it on feminism...setting women on previous male career paths...BUT, thats aside the point I'm trying to make...) So if you are doing really good in school and the girl you are interested in isn't doing so well, she could easily be just as envious of you as she is admiring you of your talents. That HB9 across the room? She's a player-hater. Dislikes you just because you do better than her.

*Its probably just them. I get minimal action at my school, because I hate the type of people who go there. Usually high schools are like that....the type of people who get blazed smoking pot end up becoming failures in life....of course they are going to hate you, and high school chicks just like them in HS because they're the "epitome" of cool. Honestly, whats more cool than a guy who, on friday, sits back and just blazes....without a care in the world? Sure hes cool now, but soon those drugs catch up to him.

With all that being said, this one is probably the most likely:

*You brag too much. No one likes a pompous *sshole. There are many types of ässholes, and you've probably heard that girls go for ässholes....well....not this type of ässhole. The way you approached this thread, if of course it does reflect the way you act at school, is setting yourself up for failure. Why? No one likes to hear people rant on how good they are at everything. This is one of THE FASTEST ways to lose interest from women. Sure when we are grownups women go for the successful....but it doesn't mean they are interested in YOU (rather...they are interested in your MONEY).
 

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You obviously have self-esteem problems judging by your tenancy to brag and how you think they look at you like a weirdo when you talk to them. Have you read the DJ bible? Because you aren't thinking like a man.

Seriously if you are telling the truth you've got so much going for you that some guys on these forums could only dream about (myseld included). But someone I'm outgaming you. There is no such thing as luck. If it aint working its YOU.

When you talk to them you shouldnt be trying to impress anyone. You should be talking them because you want to. Smile, be friendly. Aim to focus on making them glad they talked to you. That way it takes the focus off of you and onto them, and you don't have any extra personal motives that they can pick up on.
 
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i don't think i explained myself clearly. my school is different. nobody cares how many extracurricular activities or other sh*t you are doing. in fact, nobody pays attention to any of that stuff. i admit it, i have self-esteem issues. i try not to let it show but it probably does. its just that with all the stuff i have i should be happy, but instead im really confused. i didn't mean to brag and make you all think that im some pompous a**hole, but i though it would help in getting responses. thanks for the suggestions though, i think the one about trying too hard hit the nail on the head.
 

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Ok, as I previously stated, I was basically in the exact same situation as you just a few months ago. If you read the start of my journal, you can see that some people may have thought that I was bragging. People told me just to 'let it be' and it would happen. Well it turns out that's exactly what I couldn't do. Here are the main things that I changed in my life that I felt made a HUGE difference in my success with girls.

1. Positive Attitude
This one is #1 for a reason. You have to ALWAYS look for the positives in life. Since you've got so much going for you, anytime you begin to feel bad just think about how well you're doing. Think about the amazing job you're going to get, and all the money you'll earn. Honestly, I haven't felt upset for more than a few moments for weeks. I promise you that in high school, this is a RARETY. Since you've got the social proof, noone is going to call you a loser for being like this, even though it is different from everyone else. Girls will GRAVITATE to you. Perhaps in your school, the 'cool' guys just sit back, get high and complain about life and get all the girls. By being outgoing and HAPPY you will CRUSH these guys. Honestly, I have girls calling me up all the time because I make them feel good. Your GENUINE positive vibe is contageous. A final advantage is that when you're looking for positives, positives will happen. I've recently been reading up a lot on the power of the human mind and positive thinking and I'm really starting to understand it. This has helped me a TON at the gym as well as in hockey, and I can't wait to see what my new mindset will be able to help me with in baseball. Honestly, if you can just do this, it will improve EVERYTHING in your life. I was going to put #4 as learn to control your emotion, but basically this is the same thing. Never allow outside circumstances to dictate your feelings. You control your emotions. With the power of knowing that, why on earth would you ever let yourself feel angry or sad when you can feel good?

2. Being Sexual
The problem with the above is that many of the guys who can achieve this mindset are 'nice guys.' You still have to show the women that you're interested in them sexually. Honestly, the best way to combat their feelings is to use A LOT of sexual innuendo and kino. Sexual innuendo is great becasue it'll get them thinking about sex while they're with you. Kino is fvcking unbelievable, for turning girls on. Then obviously, the part which was the toughest for me, you've gotta be able to close. I don't think anyone consciously thinks 'I'll let her make the first move' but that's the thought that I used to always seem to act on. Just go for it, you're going to have to take the chance sooner or later. If you want to hold her hand, do it. If you want to kiss her, do it. In my experience since school has started, I've atleast made out with 9 girls and only 1 has stopped me at the end of the date, but she called me immediately after to say she had a great time and we still go out on dates. If you keep the kino and sexual innuendo strong, by the time you go to make the move, the girl will jump your bones.

3. Keep Plenty Of Options, and Be Honest
I've read a lot of threads around here, and this one might be for high-school only, but it's one of the most powerful things I've done. Obviously, to start you have to talk to lots of girls, and create lots of options. With your sense of humor, status and positive vibes, this won't be a problem. Now you have to ask them to hang out. HB5 - HB10, doesn't matter. Go out, in public. Come home get girl 2, same thing, public. It's high school, word will get around that you've been hanging out with lots of girls. This raises your social proof HIGHER, and the girls will become a little jealous and their attraction for you is AMPLIFIED. Now here's the important thing. You want to keep MYSTERY but NEVER lie. Believe me, there will be more than one occasion when 2 girls ask you to hang out at once. DONT lie about what you're doing. Just say you're BUSY. The girl will keep pressing, but stay strong. They might appear a little flustered, or call you a jerk, but they don't mean it. If you get asked about a certain girl, ALWAYS say 'we were just hanging out,' 'we were just getting a bite to eat,' 'we're just friends.' The WORST thing you can do is go brag to your friends about what you've done. You'll just be shooting yourself in the foot. With these methods, I haven't had a single serious confrontation yet, I've just had LOTS of attracted girls. Another advantage is it will get back to the girl that you said you were just friends. Imagine the last time you got LJBF'd, and imagine the power in them hearing that. However there is a disclaimer to this style, NEVER EVER lie, or promise a relationship to get sex, as I've seen guys get caught doing this and labelled an a$shole. A final advantage to all of this is that even if you go out with a bombshell and get LJBF'd, people will assume you did it because of your reputation. Plus you were seen in public with them, your social proof barrels higher.
 

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Great post Theborn_athelete

And ditto wolf ;)
 

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carreyreincarnate1 said:
My situation is very complex so I'll do the best to explain it. I'm the kid in school who is good at everything. I play guitar in the jazz band, play varsity soccer and am captain of the state championship hockey team, I have a 4.31 GPA, not to mention I can get a full ride to any art school in the country for my paintings. I have alot of friends and make people laugh easily. Most people even say that I could be a comedian. Also, I don't drink or do drugs and I think I'm pretty good looking. My life is perfect and it seems like I shouldn't have any problems meeting girls.
I would gladly trade spots with you right now.
 

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synergy1 said:
I agree, I am calling BS on this too. Anyone who is captain of their hockey team would have to be swatting girls away left and right, end of story.

You are better off telling the truth. If you are, than I am truly sorry you are unable to get women. It will be harder after school for you, infinitely harder...
This is wrong in my opinion. I too am good at everything I do but sometimes girls do approach me. maybe its how you approach. Maybe you slouch or have bad breath who knows? Be honest with yourself. I dont think girls would be turned off that youre a captain but maybe you seem desperate when you approach. This could create a confusing congruence (high status BUT desperate)
 
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