Why do girl's love attention?

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I can imagine some of the responses may be who cares or who knows, although I would love some thoughts shared on your experiences with this.

I find it interesting that many girls almost live on attention (eg. hot girls with orbiters/friends etc).

Even just the care and attention girls take in appearance/fashion versus males is an example of this?

Is the bigger question, are women more interested in short term gratification then long term?

Is this nature/nurture?


Looking forward to your thoughts
 

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Men (the vast majority) get off on getting sh!t done and achieving goals.

Women(the vast majority) get off on interacting with others and wondering about other people.

Is the bigger question, are women more interested in short term gratification then long term?


Of course they are. Despite all the feminist b/s out there, the fact is that men (in the vast majority of cases) made the world today, MEN.

Building roads, buildings, dams, power station, computers and everything else that is a part of our modern society.

What did women (in the vast majority of case) do in this time? Had babies and that was pretty much it.

Next time you marvel at the wonders of our modern society, marvel at the sheer bloody mindedness of driven men who did not give a fvck about women and focused on getting the job done.
 

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Also, most women think they are in an episode of 'sex and the city' and celebrity culture/music videos encourages this.
 

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Everyone loves attention. Because it gives one a feeling of power. And all living creatures love power. Read Nietzsche.

If you just hit a grand slam home run to win the World Series in game 7 on your home field and everyone was going wild, don't you think that would make you feel pretty good?
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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Zarky said:
Everyone loves attention. Because it gives one a feeling of power. And all living creatures love power. Read Nietzsche.

If you just hit a grand slam home run to win the World Series in game 7 on your home field and everyone was going wild, don't you think that would make you feel pretty good?
Good point. Everybody likes to get some positive attention.

But if you're a very attractive girl, you are in a uniquely advantageous situation to get it. Guys will heap it on you in spades, and you don't even have to do anything to get it. It's all just for being you, and being so wonderful just the way you are. It's no wonder so many get addicted to it.
 

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DonJuan_DeRosco said:
Also, most women think they are in an episode of 'sex and the city' and celebrity culture/music videos encourages this.
So true.
 

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Attention is POWER for women. The more attention they can get,the more men notice them, the better chance they have of collecting the sperm from the best possible man they can land.

Since men are judged on accomplishments,you see us busting our AZZ in school,on the job etc. to land the best woman we can
 

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interesting replies thanks. I agree that men have accomplished more than women business wise to date, I do wonder if that is just the power balance and now that the feminist movement is taking hold how much will change.

Eg. women are now allowed to work/vote. My company has a policy to have their senior management to be 20% women ASAP as 'women have not been allowed to enter the boys club'... (which I disagree with).

The baseball analogy does not work for me. I imagine most guys would love that although how many girls dream to do that really? Yet, they will call all their girlfriends if some guy they like looks at them...
 

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Heretolearn said:
interesting replies thanks. I agree that men have accomplished more than women business wise to date, I do wonder if that is just the power balance and now that the feminist movement is taking hold how much will change.

Eg. women are now allowed to work/vote. My company has a policy to have their senior management to be 20% women ASAP as 'women have not been allowed to enter the boys club'... (which I disagree with).

The baseball analogy does not work for me. I imagine most guys would love that although how many girls dream to do that really? Yet, they will call all their girlfriends if some guy they like looks at them...
Same problem in my company thanks to those eunuchs(those who are fine with europe become a sultanate) from the european parliament, out of nowhere they "decided" that wheter women deserve or not a position some of them have to get it.

It's strange however that there is no quota for female plumbers or female miners...ehh the marvellous politically correctness and his mistery.

Anyway women dont get high position simply because they are not made for it nor they want it, a sex and the city life full of ****tails,shoes and club better yet with some guy and drama is all a woman want, those career woman just found a way to get more attention and validation from others simply because their sheep mentality made them follow the new social trend.
Show on tv that real women are housewives and submissive and see what happen.

The reason why ceos and leaders are all men it's because of ambition, we like attention but we like more domination over others, we like fast cars and big house as much as hot girls.
If we can choose between having 100 girls hitting in us or fvck 10 hot ones we will pick the 10 hot ones while any woman would do the opposite.
In order to be a leader you have to challenge those in power above you, theres no chance in hell of becoming the boss by being friend with everyone and dont have enemies or haters.
Women have no problem to ass rape their husbands during a divorce but they have no guts when it comes to challenge the boss fairly with no law giving them unfair advantages, nor they accept to lose someone approvation.

Second men are ready to suffer in order to achieve a long term goal, guys suffering at the gym day after day in order to have a better body in few months, women are fine as long as they are not perceived too fat, and as long as nobody points her big ass all she needs to be fine is some choccolate.

I know this post can sound harsh to women but it's not Im just aknowledging facts, no different than when I point out majority of men who is nice simply because it will lead them between her legs
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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All women are Attention Whøres. Your mother, your sister, the girl at the bar and the wife you've been married to for 20 years are all attention seeking. Some to a greater and some to a lesser degree, but it is an integral part of the feminine gender to desire attention. This isn't to say men are immune to vanity or attention seeking, but it is to say that the utility of attention is far more integral to female acculturation than for men.

From a very early age attention is a primary reinforcer for girls. As I've mentioned in few prior posts, part of my psychology education included child psych and my favorite subject has always been my ever-present 7 y.o. (at the time) daughter when doing case studies. To understand the feminine attention dynamic you have to go back into a female childhood socialization. There are countless studies that show attention-as-reinforcer has it's roots in biomechanics. I should also add that there really is no absolute nature, or absolute nurture dyanmic so a definite amount of socialization and learned behavior intrinsically reinforces attention as rewarding, but the root of attention seeking behavior begins in female biology.

A few things to start with

In the same respect that men posess testosterone as their primary, gender-defining hormone, women's bodies produce estrogen and oxytocin in larger volume. Studies have shown both these hormones foster feelings of nurturing as a primary feminine trait for parental caring and oxytocin is a precursor for feelings of trust and comfort. Cross cultural studies also indicate that girl babies are picked up and given affection 4 times as often as are boy infants and toddlers. In addition, studies of pre-adolescent and adolescent degrees of attention to both genders by parents always favors the female child. Correlation of this would indicate the rewarding benefit of attetion to the female as well as a behavioral modeling influence directed towards masculine independence by socializing boys to not be dependent upon the reinforcing aspect of attention.

Female Socialization

Little girls fight in an entirely different realm than do boys. Where boys fight in a the physical realm, girls fight in the psychological. That's not to exclude girls from actually coming to blows, but far more common is the occurance of psychological combat and in no realm is this more effective than the denial of reinforcing attention within a female social collective.

Little girls have a predictable tendency to form small girl-only collectives or 'peer clutches' from the time they are introduced into kindergarten. This social collective progressively becomes a rewarding and reinforcing social unit, locking out those not included and nurturing those who are. This dynamic can and often does last through high school (i.e. Cliques, etc.), into college and into mature adulthood, but the commonality within all variations of this clutch is the qualifying influence of the affirming power of attention.

Should one member of the clutch offend another, it is the hierarchy of an individual member's ability to maintain the most attention that generally determines the victor in the dispute. The worst consequence of such a dispute being ostracization from the group - thus the absoulte denial of this reaffirming attention-as-reinforcement. The clutch develops a hirearchy of influence depending upon each girl's ability to attract and maintain reinforcing attention. This attention can be from any source; within the group, outside the group and opposite sex attention becomes the most valuable after puberty.

A capacity to attract attention denotes social rank within the peer clutch. The more attractive the girl, the more popular she bcomes and the more influence she weilds. This isn't to say that any particular female cognizantly realizes this directly. However, when ostracized from the collective, this capacity for attracting attention in a high degree makes her despised. The attention can still be beneficial for affirmation (i.e. realized jealousy), it's just that the intent that has changed.

Thus, women use attention not only for their own affirmation - individually and collectively - but also to do combat with each other. Far more damaging than physical fighting is the long term psychological impact of denying this reinforcement, or better still, delegitimizing or disqualifying a girl/woman's capacity to attract this attention. Combine this with a woman's natural, and innately higher agency to communicate both verbally and non-verbally (i.e covert communications) and you can see the potential this has in damaging a rival. Attention is the coin of the realm in girl-world. It is literally a form of currency.

This might explain a woman's natural propensity to gossip. When a woman attacks the respectability and character of another ("she's such a slut"), in essence, she is assualting the woman's agency for garniering attention by delegitimizing it.

The ticking clock

Now lets add to this complex attention construct the universal female recognition that, as a woman ages her sexual marketability decreases. Bear in mind that a woman's primary agency for attracting this reinforcing attention is her her sexuality and physical beauty as rewarded by men. This then fosters an imperative for this attention-combat to intensify as a woman reaches her 'expiration date'. In the last 30 years there has been a definite push through the feminization of society to de-emphasize this natural propensity and/or to divert this affirmation to be derived from other sources (i.e. career, independence, internal rewards, etc.). However it has yet to be fully (if ever) realized within western female-centric culture. All one needs do is tally the countless number of beauty products and the methods used to advertise them in popular media. 90% puls of all advertising specific to 'career minded' women is still for beauty products. Irrespective of popular socialization, this attention dynamic will not be ignored.
 

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Only very recently in human history could a woman survive without the attention of men. It's the same as why babies are cute - both are survival mechanisms.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Cross cultural studies also indicate that girl babies are picked up and given affection 4 times as often as are boy infants and toddlers
An interesting statistic. It's no wonder so many women grow up with such a sense of entitlement, and think of themselves as the center of the universe. Women become masters of extracting this kind of attention from others, especially men. Look at the term "orbiters", for instance.

This also reminds me of the Saturday Night Live skit with Mike Myers as a kid in a playground who has to wear a harness attached to the monkey bars, and Nicole Kidman as a little girl he meets. She talks about how her mother tells her she has a pretty singing voice. Mike looks a little envious for a moment, and says "Wow, you're surrounded by a lot of positive support".

Guys have to make their own way, be independent, perserve against the odds, and do it without all the support. Toughen up, and tough it out, in other words.
 

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I'll gratify the OP's expectations:

WHO CARES?

Stop putting the damn creatures on a pedestal by analyzing these matters. You just need to know how they work, not why they work the way they work...

You think the alpha male in a group of gorillas knows the answers to questions like these? Hell no, he just crushes his male competitors and sticks his big d!ck into every female he encounters, lol. I'm sure there's some master professor in psychology who has figured out the answer to the OP's question, but he's probably a wimp with an ugly wife, spending his whole life in service to that fat whale of his...

Sorry, I'm kinda grumpy at the moment :p
 

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The millions of girls who self-shoot nudes of themselves in a bathroom mirror to post on the internet, unsolicited, do so for a completely different reason than men who take shots of their members to email or text to specific women who they think may want to see their pricks for sex.

Women do it for attention, men do it in an attempt to reinforce their chances to get laid.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
The millions of girls who self-shoot nudes of themselves in a bathroom mirror to post on the internet, unsolicited, do so for a completely different reason than men who take shots of their members to email or text to specific women who they think may want to see their pricks for sex.

Women do it for attention, men do it in an attempt to reinforce their chances to get laid.
I COMPLETELY agree with this!
 

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Interesting post Rollo, thanks. It actually explains a lot. I wonder if this type of gender-specific knowledge will even be taught in the near future, since textbooks are becoming more feminized. It seems that gender equalists would eventually want to eradicate these kind of teachings from the curriculum.
 

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Heretolearn said:
Eg. women are now allowed to work/vote.
Umm... women have been "allowed" to vote for nearly a century. Might want to get up to speed.

The baseball analogy does not work for me. I imagine most guys would love that although how many girls dream to do that really? Yet, they will call all their girlfriends if some guy they like looks at them...
Clearly you missed the point. I wasn't implying that women wanted to hit a grand slam in a professional baseball game.
 
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