why can't i just fook! ( crazy vent rant)

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Dont cut the beard get it lined up lose the glasses get some clear contacts and lose like 10-15 lbs its not that hard to lose weight its hard to gain muscle and u look like the type of guy girls get into relationships with not jus bang randomly but act like a big dude who played football when u talk to them cuz they get tail
 

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Packers2010 said:
how do i get a tighter haircut? it's cut short and looks good.
i have been thinking about changing my frames. though i get compliments on these frames. so. i need to fina a pair that screams " i'm in finance don't fook with me" hahah.

i do have plain shirts. though i don't " fill them out like a body builder" what's wrong with plain polos? good for going into clubs with.

@ everyone who said i should shave my beard. i look like A KID if i do.
Since when is looking young a bad thing? You need to invest some time on your looks, man. I would get a short haircut, get in shape, and work on my body language if I were you. Not to bash, but I sensed a kind of "creeper" impression from your picture, which may be seriously affecting your game.

You look like Alan from The Hangover (the guy in the middle here): http://wodumedia.com/wp-content/upl...-Bros.-Pictures-release.-Photo-14-650x433.jpg
 

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Packers2010 said:
it wasn't pink it was purple. i guess it clashes with the jeans though I just got some nice blue ones too now so it will look better then them

what's more hipster then wearing skinny jeans anyway.

i thought hipster was just a joke, what do you mean by that as in to " dress more hipster" i always hipster was a fad.
Personally I think you would look great in loose cacky's, and flannel shirts. Add in a pair of glasses like what D H is wearing here, and you would be good to go. Maybe even a hat of some sort. I think wearing that improves your rating by two points. You don't have the body type for skinny jeans nor do you have the look to wear bright colors. Trim the beard too.

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/4005/dwighthowardeyeglasses.png
 

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"i bet if i ever got to that stage i would blow it because i have so many issues.) "
THIS right there is your problem. Your negative self talk is killing your vibes, your energy, your enthusiasm, and your stamina. You're a decent looking dude, you just need some confidence.
 

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Robyn923b said:
Since when is looking young a bad thing? You need to invest some time on your looks, man. I would get a short haircut, get in shape, and work on my body language if I were you. Not to bash, but I sensed a kind of "creeper" impression from your picture, which may be seriously affecting your game.

You look like Alan from The Hangover (the guy in the middle here): http://wodumedia.com/wp-content/upl...-Bros.-Pictures-release.-Photo-14-650x433.jpg

lol.. one time i got called http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0241173/

witch i found funny.

i'm not saying working on myself is bad. witch i am doing. i have been trying to loose the weight like you said but it's hard.

because my mother insists on bying cheap meals i get fed past at least twice a week. since it's been so hot at least we have been eating salad. though this weekend has been bad. i ate hlaf a birthday cake ( give or take. i it was my birthday and i was PSMING LIKE A MOFO. was in a bad mood all arvo after i had woken up) and had some beers latight night. tonight i had pasta with herb bread and 3 sandwiches.

it's not like it's " bad food" just huge carb loads. i have tired to get them to change. but of course if i want that I have to buy it. and i can't afford **** right now!
 

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cordoncordon said:
Personally I think you would look great in loose cacky's, and flannel shirts. Add in a pair of glasses like what D H is wearing here, and you would be good to go. Maybe even a hat of some sort. I think wearing that improves your rating by two points. You don't have the body type for skinny jeans nor do you have the look to wear bright colors. Trim the beard too.

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/4005/dwighthowardeyeglasses.png

i need someone else take on this because i see you as a troll.

i don't know why but in other threads you just trolls.

you have 2k post tho so...

i am going to trim the beard in a bit. though i'm not wearing a flannel shirt. that would be bogan.

nar man. i'll stick with plain v-necks thanks
 

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Hey Packers

Number one lesson from this is not to contact a girl because you're feeling down, you will blow your chances with that girl for sure. Have a ****ty birthday on your own (dude, I've been there), call up some of your best friends, family etc, organise a party, think 'what is it that I can get that will make me most happy at this moment in time' & get your spirts up. Then contact the girl you want to chase. No girl is gonna want a guy who is looking for a mother (again, I've been there!). Man up because that's what the girls want, a man.

I'm new to this game and 'learning a few lessons' too! Remember, it's a learning process. Keep at it.
 

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Packers2010 said:
i need someone else take on this because i see you as a troll.

i don't know why but in other threads you just trolls.

you have 2k post tho so...

i am going to trim the beard in a bit. though i'm not wearing a flannel shirt. that would be bogan.

nar man. i'll stick with plain v-necks thanks
Ok. I see my help here is not needed.

Good luck with your fawwwkkkking, aesthetic, and dressing goals in 2013.
 

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Packers, not trying to flame you here or be too hard, but....

Look through your responses to all the advice you have gotten. Much of it, but not all, you respond to with some excuse why you can't do this or that.

You came here to get advice. There are many experienced guys here telling you stuff they know and what works and what doesn't.

I've seen guys harder in denial, but you are a bit heavy on the excuses and an occasional refusal to listen.

Here's what I'm getting from you:

You are frustrated
You are impatient
These two are creating some anger
You are a bit fatalistic, but you are trying some, so there's something
You are young and lack enough experience

Put your mind on two tracks - long term and short term

In the long term, keep working on your body. Get into a regular work out routine. Can't afford a gym? Look into "convict conditioning". Develop skills, hobbies, and read a lot. You should be working on becoming a well-rounded person. When you chat with a girl, you need to have something interesting to say and this comes from experience.

In the short term, get your clothes down first. Check out your picture. Those pants don't fit right (from behind, it probably looks like you have a dump in there). Everybody is telling you to cut that beard. Don't wanna look like a kid? Then keep a 3 day beard...some women think that sexy and most women won't care at all (and the number that actually like beards is much lower). Quit wearing those damn shirts that belong on a golf course. There's nothing sexy about that. I used to make all these mistakes too. I could ocassionally get laid, but my appearance shut me out of a lot of girls' radars.

We are told not to listen to women's advice, but once several female friends told me to ditch my wardrobe once I lost weight, I saw this was also the advice these forums give to guys as well. I did and I get much more attention now.

Look, we all have different distances to travel. But the guys here are responding to what you've fed them and what it seems like they are getting back from you is, "It's hard", "I can't", "but, but...."

Work on all this stuff you need to do because this is what becoming a man means, not because it will get you laid this week. Once you start giving off a masculine vibe, the women will notice. Then you gotta spit good game.

Finally, struggling through all of this will be its own additional reward. Not only will you look better and feel better, but it will add to your confidence once you achieved several goals, and this confidence will spill out into your vibe with women. You will not have to act confidence because you will be confident.
 

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HalfPUAHalfAFC said:
Packers, not trying to flame you here or be too hard, but....

Look through your responses to all the advice you have gotten. Much of it, but not all, you respond to with some excuse why you can't do this or that.

You came here to get advice. There are many experienced guys here telling you stuff they know and what works and what doesn't.

I've seen guys harder in denial, but you are a bit heavy on the excuses and an occasional refusal to listen.

Here's what I'm getting from you:

You are frustrated
You are impatient
These two are creating some anger
You are a bit fatalistic, but you are trying some, so there's something
You are young and lack enough experience

Put your mind on two tracks - long term and short term

In the long term, keep working on your body. Get into a regular work out routine. Can't afford a gym? Look into "convict conditioning". Develop skills, hobbies, and read a lot. You should be working on becoming a well-rounded person. When you chat with a girl, you need to have something interesting to say and this comes from experience.

In the short term, get your clothes down first. Check out your picture. Those pants don't fit right (from behind, it probably looks like you have a dump in there). Everybody is telling you to cut that beard. Don't wanna look like a kid? Then keep a 3 day beard...some women think that sexy and most women won't care at all (and the number that actually like beards is much lower). Quit wearing those damn shirts that belong on a golf course. There's nothing sexy about that. I used to make all these mistakes too. I could ocassionally get laid, but my appearance shut me out of a lot of girls' radars.

We are told not to listen to women's advice, but once several female friends told me to ditch my wardrobe once I lost weight, I saw this was also the advice these forums give to guys as well. I did and I get much more attention now.

Look, we all have different distances to travel. But the guys here are responding to what you've fed them and what it seems like they are getting back from you is, "It's hard", "I can't", "but, but...."

Work on all this stuff you need to do because this is what becoming a man means, not because it will get you laid this week. Once you start giving off a masculine vibe, the women will notice. Then you gotta spit good game.

Finally, struggling through all of this will be its own additional reward. Not only will you look better and feel better, but it will add to your confidence once you achieved several goals, and this confidence will spill out into your vibe with women. You will not have to act confidence because you will be confident.
Well said and I approve of this post 100%.

OP that purple shirt you have on was popular in 1986. And it sucked back then too.
 

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OP : you admitted you are kid , women like to have sex with MEN .
you seem to have kid personality ,
and dont wear pink
 

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Packers2010 said:
i need someone else take on this because i see you as a troll.
Cordon's not a troll, Packers. I don't agree with him on the glasses though, I think smaller and less conspicuous frames would be better. I don't see anything wrong with flannel shirts though, it's a casual, manly look. The darker colors may not be a bad idea, browns and blacks. I think it's very difficult to get fashion advice on a forum like this because everybody's different. You never know what you're going to look like in something until you are wearing it. What looks good on you might look horrible on me.

I think your problems are more the mental/inner game type. Just from the picture you took, it looks like you have poor self esteem. It looks like you're hiding in the picture, you can't be seen clearly, you can't see your entire face or head. It's good to work on your looks, but if you don't change your mindset it probably won't do you much good.

You mentioned how you are broke and living at home, that probably is contributing to your low self esteem. Men take a lot of their self esteem from their career and being able to stand on their own two feet. I'm guessing that once you graduate and get your financial affairs in order, that will automatically correct some of your problems.

You have the balls to make friends with girls, so I think that's a positive thing. You just need to be able to take it a step further. Keep working on self improvement and as you get older your value will increase. Then I imagine women will see you as more of a catch. Right now you're still a work in progress.
 

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HalfPUAHalfAFC said:
Packers, not trying to flame you here or be too hard, but....

Look through your responses to all the advice you have gotten. Much of it, but not all, you respond to with some excuse why you can't do this or that.

You came here to get advice. There are many experienced guys here telling you stuff they know and what works and what doesn't.

I've seen guys harder in denial, but you are a bit heavy on the excuses and an occasional refusal to listen.

Here's what I'm getting from you:

You are frustrated
You are impatient
These two are creating some anger
You are a bit fatalistic, but you are trying some, so there's something
You are young and lack enough experience

Put your mind on two tracks - long term and short term

In the long term, keep working on your body. Get into a regular work out routine. Can't afford a gym? Look into "convict conditioning". Develop skills, hobbies, and read a lot. You should be working on becoming a well-rounded person. When you chat with a girl, you need to have something interesting to say and this comes from experience.

In the short term, get your clothes down first. Check out your picture. Those pants don't fit right (from behind, it probably looks like you have a dump in there). Everybody is telling you to cut that beard. Don't wanna look like a kid? Then keep a 3 day beard...some women think that sexy and most women won't care at all (and the number that actually like beards is much lower). Quit wearing those damn shirts that belong on a golf course. There's nothing sexy about that. I used to make all these mistakes too. I could ocassionally get laid, but my appearance shut me out of a lot of girls' radars.

We are told not to listen to women's advice, but once several female friends told me to ditch my wardrobe once I lost weight, I saw this was also the advice these forums give to guys as well. I did and I get much more attention now.

Look, we all have different distances to travel. But the guys here are responding to what you've fed them and what it seems like they are getting back from you is, "It's hard", "I can't", "but, but...."

Work on all this stuff you need to do because this is what becoming a man means, not because it will get you laid this week. Once you start giving off a masculine vibe, the women will notice. Then you gotta spit good game.

Finally, struggling through all of this will be its own additional reward. Not only will you look better and feel better, but it will add to your confidence once you achieved several goals, and this confidence will spill out into your vibe with women. You will not have to act confidence because you will be confident.
look. I'm not hatin on any of the advice in this thread.

this is the first time I am growing a beard. so i want to see what it looks like, i want to keep it for awhile and see what's comes of it.

one of my wings down here told me to keep the beard. cos it looks better, it's not THAT long and soon i will trim it down back to 3 day old shadow just because i don' t want it to grow so long.

i like polo shirts cos they are clean cut. i do play golf every so often so ii will keep them, though they look better on me then the old " sonic the hedgehog" shirts i was wearing. trust me. if i shouldn't wear those shirts, what should i wear then? i don't understand. my wing told me i should dress more hipster. so i got the skinny jeans.

it's good for dates. too boot. it looks, nice one me cos they ft well.

yes i know about loosing weight, I'm working on it, should hit the gym soon.

@ cordoncordon

i'm sorry to be so harsh before, i know you are trying to help. yes i did ask for it. so i think i should apologise.

i think the purple shirt looks good on me. though i have a red polo that looks much better i must say, I have a few black ones that look better also.

i don't see why you " can't where this" and should " wear that" i think it looks good on me, the stuff i was wearing before look horrible

@ zekko.

the thing is. see flanne shirts are warn by bogans here ( the american redneck) so it's really not a good look or has that coronation to it.

i know my problems are more inner game, and i think most of my problems will go away once i get out of this house. though new ones will arise, they will be much more easy then these.

the picture i posted is funny to ME. why? because the girls you see me with was one of my sets for the night. if you look at the picture it is cropped. 2 girls was taking a photo with one of the club promoters. i went to scratch my nose and that's what happened. it's funny cos i asked the girls i sat with if they was with the girls taking the photo. so.

but i find it funny. i can show you more pictures of me if you REALLY want. i'm self amusing most of my pictures suck. i put that one put because it's funny. but also it sort of looks like I'm with some girls ( hardly)

here are some more for you.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/223080_10150175886667355_3123433_n.jpg ( me drunk with a friend. CLEAN SHAVEN)

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/179221_490043092354_2673612_n.jpg ( me with a friend full body. yes i am leaning over and yes that is my back in the picture)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/309834_517253231647966_1576006737_n.jpg ( me showing off how i dress. i don't see what's wrong with it?)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/396812_505028969537059_1440435064_n.jpg ( this one has less beard but shaddow and it has my kick ass headphones!)

i do thank you guys for giving me help guys.
 

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Packers2010 said:
the picture i posted is funny to ME. why? because the girls you see me with was one of my sets for the night. if you look at the picture it is cropped. 2 girls was taking a photo with one of the club promoters. i went to scratch my nose and that's what happened. it's funny cos i asked the girls i sat with if they was with the girls taking the photo. so.
I'm not sure which picture you are talking about here. The one I was referring to was the one you linked to in post #8, this one:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/309834_517253231647966_1576006737_n.jpg

For what it's worth, I think you look better with the facial hair. But I'm not a chick, so take that with a grain of salt.

Regarding polo shirts, I see lots of guys here advising others to wear them, although they usually stress what good shape they're in. Men don't really have as many fashion choices as women do, there are only so many basic looks, so it's kind of hard to make yourself stand out just through dress IMO (without looking like a clown).
 

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zekko said:
I'm not sure which picture you are talking about here. The one I was referring to was the one you linked to in post #8, this one:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/309834_517253231647966_1576006737_n.jpg

For what it's worth, I think you look better with the facial hair. But I'm not a chick, so take that with a grain of salt.

Regarding polo shirts, I see lots of guys here advising others to wear them, although they usually stress what good shape they're in. Men don't really have as many fashion choices as women do, there are only so many basic looks, so it's kind of hard to make yourself stand out just through dress IMO (without looking like a clown).

thats good advice man. i will take it on board. the picture you thinked i just took to show off my new clothes.

this is the pic i am talking about in the post above.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/59581_510950612278228_1107032554_n.jpg
 

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Packers2010 said:
look. I'm not hatin on any of the advice in this thread.

this is the first time I am growing a beard. so i want to see what it looks like, i want to keep it for awhile and see what's comes of it.

one of my wings down here told me to keep the beard. cos it looks better, it's not THAT long and soon i will trim it down back to 3 day old shadow just because i don' t want it to grow so long.

i like polo shirts cos they are clean cut. i do play golf every so often so ii will keep them, though they look better on me then the old " sonic the hedgehog" shirts i was wearing. trust me. if i shouldn't wear those shirts, what should i wear then? i don't understand. my wing told me i should dress more hipster. so i got the skinny jeans.

it's good for dates. too boot. it looks, nice one me cos they ft well.

yes i know about loosing weight, I'm working on it, should hit the gym soon.

@ cordoncordon

i'm sorry to be so harsh before, i know you are trying to help. yes i did ask for it. so i think i should apologise.

i think the purple shirt looks good on me. though i have a red polo that looks much better i must say, I have a few black ones that look better also.

i don't see why you " can't where this" and should " wear that" i think it looks good on me, the stuff i was wearing before look horrible

@ zekko.

the thing is. see flanne shirts are warn by bogans here ( the american redneck) so it's really not a good look or has that coronation to it.

i know my problems are more inner game, and i think most of my problems will go away once i get out of this house. though new ones will arise, they will be much more easy then these.

the picture i posted is funny to ME. why? because the girls you see me with was one of my sets for the night. if you look at the picture it is cropped. 2 girls was taking a photo with one of the club promoters. i went to scratch my nose and that's what happened. it's funny cos i asked the girls i sat with if they was with the girls taking the photo. so.

but i find it funny. i can show you more pictures of me if you REALLY want. i'm self amusing most of my pictures suck. i put that one put because it's funny. but also it sort of looks like I'm with some girls ( hardly)

here are some more for you.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/223080_10150175886667355_3123433_n.jpg ( me drunk with a friend. CLEAN SHAVEN)

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/179221_490043092354_2673612_n.jpg ( me with a friend full body. yes i am leaning over and yes that is my back in the picture)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/309834_517253231647966_1576006737_n.jpg ( me showing off how i dress. i don't see what's wrong with it?)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/396812_505028969537059_1440435064_n.jpg ( this one has less beard but shaddow and it has my kick ass headphones!)

i do thank you guys for giving me help guys.
You actually look pretty good in that 2nd pic. That is just about how I was describing that you dress in my earlier post. Loose fitting jeans or cacky's. You do not have the body type to wear skinny jeans right now trust me. Is your friend on the right in that pic puking?

Your friends have on flannels like I wrote earlier as well too. I think that would go well with your look. Lose the full beard. Just a 3-5 day growth for you would be perfect. And keep losing weight, keep lifting weights, you are way better off then the first pic I ever saw of you a while ago.
 

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Plenty of good advice given here, but i'll add my 2 cents.

Firstly, you're not at all a bad looking guy, but you aren't doing yourself any favours with your grooming. Good thing is, you have alot of potential :)

1. Lose weight. When you start loosing weight, your facial features will come out more.

2. You seem to have a good head of hair. Use it to your advantage. Use products in it, and try to spike it. You have a round face, so it will help alot to give it length. The way your hair is now, it's not doing anything for you. Experiment. Not having any products in your hair can give out a "nerdy" vibe. It's not a good vibe to give..

3. Trim your eyebrows. Do it. Tey are too bushy. Do it professionaly if you have to or have a female friend do it. They love styling guys.

4. Keep some facial hair. Don't grow it long, but you look better with a 3 day beard than clean shaven.

5. Loose the jewelry. Come on bro. Sport a cool watch, but drop gold chains, rings etc. Girls and metroboys wear jewelery, not men. This is just my personal opinion though and not meant to offend anyone who are into accessories.

6. Drop the glasses. Use contacts.

7. Posture. Stand up straight. Don't slouch. Be very aware of this until it comes naturally. Chin up, chest out, shoulders back. :up:


In your case, small changes will make on hell of a difference. Looking forward to seeing the results of your makeover :)

:rock:
 

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what he said.^^

Mainly get to the gym - if you cant get to a gym, pushups and crunches, squats, squat thrusts, star jumps - use your own bodyweight to tone up.


noone wants to fvck a fatty

Focus on #1 and #7 on that list, ive just started a wokout log in the h&f board - suggest you do the same, you'll get tips and help - also, take before and after shots - they might help with motivation.
 

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There's a lot of good advice for you in this thread Packers. Just try different looks out and pick the best one for you. Also Google or Youtube different beard styles. Short and trim is best. Hairstyles experiment too with.

As far as working out if you can't get to a gym just work out at home with your own bodyweight in your room. You can get pretty damn cut up if you keep at it everyday.

Youtube "crunches" and you'll see all different personal trainers come up. (main one is a livestrong chick) showing you all different videos of different situps,crunches, pushups, pull ups etc. Get a pullup bar for your doorway or somewhere in your house.

You'll start feeling a lot better working out and eating healthy. Once you start seeing results it won't just make you feel good on the inside, it will start showing also with your look and in your self esteem on the outside to others. (No need to become an A hole then though. So check yourself on that.)


And watch out for the haters. Once the changes really start coming, your style, body changes, and positive confident attitude...be prepared for the people who were "comfy" with you being the way you were now being completely uncomfortable and "attacking" you for being the best person you can be. You'll notice several positive people, but also the people who are content to have secretly kept you as a "feel good about myself" kind of dude now having their worlds shook up as Packers is looking, dressing, and is doing better than them.


Oh and one last final note. I saw you mention something about if you turned gay. Don't do that or the mods will have to change your screen name from "Packers" to "FudgePackers" or plain ol' "Peckers".

Good luck dude. Keep us all updated. Take the advice that suits you best or you'll go insane from listening to 30 different posters tell you what they think looks best on you.
 
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