Why being gameless is better for you in the long run

[TarantulaHawk]

Why being gameless is better for you in the long run?

Many reasons.

For one you don't need "game". You've never needed it. Game is simply the belief that you can control others actions/attraction which is an almost impossible task and not only a waste of your time but will effect how you see yourself if you keep "failing" at it due to it not working but only "appearing to work" at times with those who are already attracted to you and have chosen you for reasons they may simply generalize as you having "game".

To possess "game" the other person must already be attracted to you in some form. You cannot force attraction let alone mind manipulate someone who isn't interested in you in the first place.

What you need to do is simple and it must be for YOU and not in a selfish, angry, or "get back" negative way due to previous perceived "failures" or just to "get chicks" while claiming you "aren't doing it to get them and don't put pvzzy on a pedestal".

You must:

1) Be open and approachable to anyone. (It doesn't mean you HAVE to "date" them. But you expand not only your social circle but ability to socialize with everyone.)

2) Be Social, relaxed, a cool dude, and fun.

3) Do your best at work and or school.

4) Work out to get a defined swimmers build.

5) Groom and dress your best.

6) Have hobbies, interests, travel, etc.

7) Be a better listener than just a talker.

You must do those things for yourselves which will slowly but surely build your confidence, true confidence as you aren't doing them just to "get chicks" but to become a MAN who is a great catch REGARDLESS if some chick "approves" or not.


If you rely on "game" you are SIMP-ly using a placebo to think you can somehow manipulate actions, situations, people etc. into "liking" you when they themselves decide if they like you or not.

You can try the same "game" on 100 chicks even IF you knew every ounce of it and you're still not guaranteed to have every one of them fall for it let alone "like" you because of it. They may like your appearance, your voice, whether you have tattoo's or not, whether you have things going for you, they may like it if you are a lowlife as that's what they're attracted to, they could like a scar you have, your height (which can't be controlled), your choice of music and on and on.

Here's an example of why "game" doesn't exist.

If you took two dudes. One unattractive and one very attractive with the SAME exact amount of "game" you can be sure the majority of the chicks will deem the dude with "better game" to be the one who is more attractive.

Looks, height, hygiene, social skills, physique etc. and then throw out the general statement of "Oh he had better game." simply because it's just a word to describe the dude they were more attracted to EVEN IF the two dudes had the same exact "game".

Same with two of the best looking or worst looking dudes with the SAME exact know everything about game and spitting it.

It's going to come down too who the chicks like specifically that can't be controlled.

Instead of using the placebo of "game" and becoming a zombified cult like member who drives himself insane over trying to learn more and more about trying to control others actions and thoughts..

Just be your BEST self.

Again:

1) Be open and approachable to anyone. (It doesn't mean you HAVE to "date" them. But you expand not only your social circle but ability to socialize with everyone.)

2) Be Social, relaxed, a cool dude, and fun.

3) Do your best at work and or school.

4) Work out to get a defined swimmers build.

5) Groom and dress your best.

6) Have hobbies, interests, travel, etc.

7) Be a better listener than just a talker.

Not everyone is going to like or want to date you or I. That's life.


Just control what YOU can control for yourself, being your BEST self, go out and approach but don't drive yourselves insane trying to manipulate others actions, thoughts, etc. and then get disgruntled over it trying to keep using countless "formulas" to get your way every time.

Don't fear rejection. Those who "reject" you only reject themselves.

Just be cool, social, fun, dress and groom your best, work out, create your own social circle and don't rely on placebos. Your mental health will thank you in the long run.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

That is the problem with many others here. They need to consciously think about what to do and what not to do so they aren't smooth or natural. That is why they are still here on this website. They don't let themselves fail or learn through experience. Learning through experience turns you INTO one of those fellas whom you all wish you were because they were so natural. The thing is though, the reason why many here will say 'you will always have issues though because a girl's emotions simply can't be understood or responded to meaningfully' is because they have to think about them consciously. That is a terrible way of life.

You ARE able to 'break' the rules here. You just need to do it NATURALLY though without thinking about it. Because you really aren't breaking the rules at all, you are simply bending them to your will. All of the legendary posters understood this concept and have refined it, thus mastering it. And in doing so, they have left.

This is my main advocacy. Let yourself fail. Experience trumps all. It strengthens you as a person and helps you grow just as well. It helps you turn into your best self. Your TRUE SELF. You will be able to act without thinking. And your mindset changes the world and environment around you into whatever you will it to be (quantum physics and possibly eliminating that idea, conservation of energy, everything is energy, what about your thought process?, laws of attraction, CV, a theory of mine, etc. etc.)

I should make a thread on this sometime.....

But others may not listen. This concept is so simple that thinking about it over complicates it.
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Anyway, good post

 

[Greasy Pig]

I can quote numerous examples of guys who aren't classically good looking who have absolutely crushed pvssy because they had "game".
Maybe not classic "dark triad" game, but they were outgoing, friendly and, above all, funny.
I consider myself pretty good looking but I spent years standing in bars watching these guys whom I considered to be of inferior looks getting all the female attention while I just sat there waiting for some chick to fall at my feet and beg me to fvck her.
It wasn't until I discovered this site and embraced the concept of "game" that I started racking up astonishing lay counts and numbers.
I agree that looking your best is key, but even good looking guys usually need some game to seal the deal IMO.

 

[TarantulaHawk]

I can quote numerous examples of guys who aren't classically good looking who have absolutely crushed pvssy because they had "game".
Maybe not classic "dark triad" game, but they were outgoing, friendly and, above all, funny.
I consider myself pretty good looking but I spent years standing in bars watching these guys whom I considered to be of inferior looks getting all the female attention while I just sat there waiting for some chick to fall at my feet and beg me to fvck her.
It wasn't until I discovered this site and embraced the concept of "game" that I started racking up astonishing lay counts and numbers.
I agree that looking your best is key, but even good looking guys usually need some game to seal the deal IMO.

"Less attractive" dudes may "appear" to have "game" but it boils down to true inner confidence, them not caring and approaching not fearing rejection. There's no way to tell who a chick finds attractive even if we may think another dude isn't "all that".

The only thing is to be the best version of yourself in all aspects (physical, grooming, style, intelligence, fun, good listener etc.)while being social, open/approachable and being able to converse on different topics.

If a man has all his ducks in order or even if he doesn't yet doesn't fear rejection and is used to talking to many people it's easier along with his sense of style and appearance to have the odds in the number game in his favor.

It still boils down to whom the chick finds attractive and her type. It could be race, height, eye color, facial features, build and countless other things "game" even if a group of dudes possessed the exact same wouldn't matter. It's going to come down to whom the chick likes.

same thing as if you gave two chick's "game" one ugly and obese and the other a 9. The vast majority of dudes would take the 9.

 

[Fatal Jay]

one of the best post I see in awhile

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

That's bull****.

You just created a 'nice guy' ... be ****ing yourself and girls will come.Maybe you will attract some desperate 30ties or single moms with this strategy.

When I was 16 I was extremly handsome,smart,funny,kind ... etc. but it didnt get me a single ***** - in the meantime my friend bad at school, rude, drinking,smoking was smashing girl after another.Why ? Because he was a man and I was a *****.He was dark triad mother****er I was nice guy.I remeber once he told me "Don't be so ****ing nice to her she will not give you ass anyway" I wish I understood what he meant ...

I started to get ***** when I started to be machiavellian manipulator, it just works .... anyway Im not going to argue with you your post is pretty much useless as - experience - of thousands of men states otherwise.

You talk about logic when we know women operate on emotions.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

I think what he's trying to say is when you put more of an emphasis on inner game, you don't even consciously think of it is game.

I also think "just be yourself" is very dangerous advice. If you are a 250 pound video game nerd and a 24 year old virgin, you shouldn't be yourself. You should change yourself by dropping 70 pounds, getting contact lenses, and overhauling your wardrobe.

You get the point.

 

[TarantulaHawk]

I think what he's trying to say is when you put more of an emphasis on inner game, you don't even consciously think of it is game.

I also think "just be yourself" is very dangerous advice. If you are a 250 pound video game nerd and a 24 year old virgin, you shouldn't be yourself. You should change yourself by dropping 70 pounds, getting contact lenses, and overhauling your wardrobe.

You get the point.

You put the emphasis on self improvement for yourself. Not to "get chicks". If you rely on "improving" yourself just to "get chicks" you are fighting a lunatics battle. Because regardless how much you improve not everyone is going to like you or I. That's life. Some aren't prepared to deal with it.

"Game" will never be one size fits all. It's simply a numbers game based off the opposing persons attraction to you or I. What works for one dude may not work for ten others etc. "Game" is the belief you can "control and mind manipulate" others into doing what you specifically want like a carnival hypnotist.

The only way it "works" is if the participant is willing to go along with it which would mean "game" still relies on how attractive you are to the other person and whether they like your look, personality etc.

Like I've stated from the beginning you need to become the BEST version of yourself for yourself not hanging it on other's "approval and acceptance" because if those same people you relied on for that approval and acceptance of your self improvement to be your best self didn't "work" then where would you be? Tap dancing like a trained monkey with countless "techniques" to "prove" they somehow work while then lying to yourself that you aren't doing it to get chicks approval?

 

[TarantulaHawk]

That's bull****.

You just created a 'nice guy' ... be ****ing yourself and girls will come.Maybe you will attract some desperate 30ties or single moms with this strategy.

When I was 16 I was extremly handsome,smart,funny,kind ... etc. but it didnt get me a single ***** - in the meantime my friend bad at school, rude, drinking,smoking was smashing girl after another.Why ? Because he was a man and I was a *****.He was dark triad mother****er I was nice guy.I remeber once he told me "Don't be so ****ing nice to her she will not give you ass anyway" I wish I understood what he meant ...

I started to get ***** when I started to be machiavellian manipulator, it just works .... anyway Im not going to argue with you your post is pretty much useless as - experience - of thousands of men states otherwise.

You talk about logic when we know women operate on emotions.

You don't even believe the nonsense you've typed unless you have severe reading comprehension and or are delusional.

Women operate on emotions. So you've decided to throw logic out the window and operate on emotions as well? Do you put on an act in effort to gain friends? Do you put on an act to get your own family to like you? Do you put on an act to get random strangers to like you? Do you only care to improve yourself for what you think everyone else will approve of as if you're a live AWing Facebook page with legs trying to "impress" everyone? If no. Then why only improve yourself to be your best self for chicks instead of yourself and in the meantime getting to know chicks as secondary in the process of your life?

 

[bigneil]

As someone who has traveled every 6 months for the past 5 years, I can tell you that the #1 factor in your success is the local supply and demand of beautiful women. In Austin there are so many beautiful women that they are all literally battered and unhappy. They can't get men to stay with them. Meanwhile I just moved to Oklahoma and it sucks. If a girl is even remotely attractive and/or if you didn't go to her high school during the same years she was active, they have this "as if" attitude matched only by Orlando women. That said, it's true that when they are tougher on you, it makes you try harder and improve yourself, so when you move to a new area, you can trade up just as easily.