"Why Beautiful Women Marry Less Attractive Men"

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thedeparted said:
I see this all the time. Beautiful women, rich guys.
Yes, you do see it often I guess. But I also see it just as much with middle income guys. Anyone who doesn't believe that, go tour a wealthy neighborhood and a middle/average income neighborhood, and observe the women in them. Both neighborhoods have the same amount of HOT women.
 

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Keto, you wanted to know the answers I've been getting when I've asked the ugly/dweeb guys how they've pulled the hot babes they're with?

Well to be honest with you, I've only asked one guy. I didn't mean to make it sound like I've asked a bunch of guys the question. But anyhow, I asked this dude I used to jam with. This guy wasn't even a serious musician, just composed tunes on guitar as a hobby, so it's not like she went for him for that. Let me give you a little background on this guy. I've actually posted about him before, way back 2 yrs ago. Anyway, this guy was 32, smelt like f*ckin' piss(no joke), didn't work(when I knew him he was receiving unemployment and I think getting money from the gov't for being in the military), wouldn't even make eye contact with you when he spoke to people, he'd look down at the ground(he did this with his hot girlfriend too), and he'd stutter(not making fun of him for that, but I always thought women got turned off by stutterers) and jump from one topic to the next when he spoke it seemed. He'd completely loose me in conversations. Anyhow, I never really asked him directly how he pulled his woman, but I was told by his friend that one night they were at a party, and they were all sitting down outside in the yard, and this girl out of nowhere blurted out "I like you" to him. Don't forget, this is a guy with the characteristics that I mentioned above, and this woman is hot. She's a hot 38 Paralegal chick.

According to his friend, that wasn't the only hot girlfriend he had, he had one other prior to this one.

I've made it a point though from now on to ask these ugly/dweeb guys how they pulled their hot women, whenever the oportunity arises during conversations.
Well this is one guy but if he has a hot girlfriend and that's not the only one he's had, then that's proof of something. I don't say it much on here but I've never had any belief in women ability to pick on quality. I never real bought into the alpha stuff and good genes. My guess is he is out going and his near delusional ramblings appeal to the equally coocky but hot women. To be honest with you, most guys that attract women aren't very smart or well adjusted. I mean you can be smart and attract women if your witty and outgoing and you can play the part of being shallow.

There could be other explanations but I don't really know these two people and even if I did I'd be taking a guess still. Some times it's hard to find any reasoning behind what a woman does. a lot of times the reason is not even sound but it's still the reason behind what women do. hey themselves can't explain it. My main point is as ridiculous or petty, or flat wrong women's reasoning may be, I don't think it's random. I can't really say I see ugly, dweeb guys pull women let alone hot women much at all.
 

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edger said:
Keto, you wanted to know the answers I've been getting when I've asked the ugly/dweeb guys how they've pulled the hot babes they're with?

Well to be honest with you, I've only asked one guy. I didn't mean to make it sound like I've asked a bunch of guys the question. But anyhow, I asked this dude I used to jam with. This guy wasn't even a serious musician, just composed tunes on guitar as a hobby, so it's not like she went for him for that. Let me give you a little background on this guy. I've actually posted about him before, way back 2 yrs ago. Anyway, this guy was 32, smelt like f*ckin' piss(no joke), didn't work(when I knew him he was receiving unemployment and I think getting money from the gov't for being in the military), wouldn't even make eye contact with you when he spoke to people, he'd look down at the ground(he did this with his hot girlfriend too), and he'd stutter(not making fun of him for that, but I always thought women got turned off by stutterers) and jump from one topic to the next when he spoke it seemed. He'd completely loose me in conversations. Anyhow, I never really asked him directly how he pulled his woman, but I was told by his friend that one night they were at a party, and they were all sitting down outside in the yard, and this girl out of nowhere blurted out "I like you" to him. Don't forget, this is a guy with the characteristics that I mentioned above, and this woman is hot. She's a hot 38 Paralegal chick.

According to his friend, that wasn't the only hot girlfriend he had, he had one other prior to this one.

I've made it a point though from now on to ask these ugly/dweeb guys how they pulled their hot women, whenever the oportunity arises during conversations.
She is 38...and he is 32. It is not like if he is pulling Twentysomething year old women.
 

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The ultimate natural best player dude I ever knew, a guy who could pull multiple teenage hotties off the beach and into his parent's condo to the point that they had to move to keep him out of jail ... was borderline mentally retarded.

I'm not making that up. He was a decent looking guy, with the mind of a 12 year old kid. He'd just walk straight up to three babes in bikinis and start messing with them. By the time they figured out he was slow, they had already fvcked him.

Meantime, I am the MENSA dude, and they probably thought I was a serial killer back then (quiet, keeps to himself, doesn't bother the neighbors, I *seemed* like a nice guy....) If I wasn't so socially retarted, I could have had his leftovers. I mean, it was offered to me back then.

Point being, Dj skills are not really located in the cerebral cortex. We are talking about lower level brain functions here. Intelligence will often OBSTRUCT those lower functions, so the retarded kids may actually be at an advantage.

And keep in mind, the hotties are not usually the brainiacs, either.
 

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ketostix said:
My guess is he is out going and his near delusional ramblings appeal to the equally coocky but hot women.
I never really hung out with the guy while he was around women(except for his girlfriend), but I can tell you for sure that he was not "outgoing" or "charasmatic" around me or his girlfriend.



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There could be other explanations but I don't really know these two people and even if I did I'd be taking a guess still. Some times it's hard to find any reasoning behind what a woman does. a lot of times the reason is not even sound but it's still the reason behind what women do. hey themselves can't explain it. My main point is as ridiculous or petty, or flat wrong women's reasoning may be, I don't think it's random. I can't really say I see ugly, dweeb guys pull women let alone hot women much at all.
And as out-of-the-ordinary as it might sound to some(for those who don't believe in fate), this is why I bring in the "It's not meant to be, it's not part of your fate" phenomenon into the picture..because it's so hard to come up with reasons..and after all else can be ruled out, the only other explanation I can lean towards is the supernatural; the "It's not meant to be".
 

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She is 38...and he is 32. It is not like if he is pulling Twentysomething year old women.
While I can maybe see a woman settling at 38, I can't see her settling to that degree. Look at what I mentioned about him.
 

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Keto, one other person just came to mind today; this guy I work with. He's tall, very skinny, face is avg. looking I guess you can say(I wouldn't look at him and say "that guy's good-looking")and he walks like a fag. I call him "twirp" to myself. First time I seen him, I would've never thought this guy pulled babes. But from what he and my co-workers at work tell me, the guy pulls in hot babes. He told me his girlfriend is hot. And he's in his late 30's too.

I've asked him how he goes about reeling them in, and from what he tells me, if they're passing by him, he winks at them, then ignores them for a little bit.
 
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edger said:
I've asked him how he goes about reeling them in, and from what he tells me, if they're passing by him, he winks at them, then ignores them for a little bit.

See, he's working on the Eye Contact Seduction Technique.

I am trying to master this myself. It's when you can sleep with a woman off the street without saying a single word. You just use eye contact but you have to know what you are doing. Also, gestures with the head and hands are acceptable in this technique, just not talking.
 

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See, he's working on the Eye Contact Seduction Technique.

I am trying to master this myself. It's when you can sleep with a woman off the street without saying a single word. You just use eye contact but you have to know what you are doing. Also, gestures with the head and hands are acceptable in this technique, just not talking.
Eye contact seduction technique I always use, but I've never employed the "wink" tactic, because I always thought it was corny, so overdone, so old. I like to keep it fresh, as well as "original".

When I see a hot woman I wanna bang, I make eye contact, and that is about it. Occasionally I'll slip a smile-smirk in there depending on my mood. Usually though, strong eye contact alone is enough to let her know you're interested. After I make eye contact and hold the gaze, I wait to see if she responds to it. I usually look for a smile or a locked gaze on her part, and that is what cues me in on whether she's interested or not.
 
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edger said:
Eye contact seduction technique I always use, but I've never employed the "wink" tactic, because I always thought it was corny, so overdone, so 1950's, 60's, 70's.

When I see a hot woman I wanna bang, I make eye contact, and that is about it. Occasionally I'll slip a smile-smirk in there. Usually though, just eye contact alone is enough to let her know you're interested. After I make eye contact and hold the stare, I wait to see if she responds to it. I usually look for a smile or a locked stare on her part, and that is what cues me in on whether she's interested or not.

Yes but the goal the the Technique requires one to sleep with a woman,
using eye contact alone and no words.
 

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edger said:
Keto, one other person just came to mind today; this guy I work with. He's tall, very skinny, face is avg. looking I guess you can say(I wouldn't look at him and say "that guy's good-looking")and he walks like a fag. I call him "twirp" to myself. First time I seen him, I would've never thought this guy pulled babes. But from what he and my co-workers at work tell me, the guy pulls in hot babes. He told me his girlfriend is hot. And he's in his late 30's too.
Well I'm still not ready to attibute it to fate. It might be fate in the sense a guy has the x-factor naturally or doesn't, even if that factor is being mentally inferior. I still think the women are picking up on something visually that is attracting them. I think it might be mostly subconcious for the woman. And I think there's something at play that you as a guy aren't seeing.

I've asked him how he goes about reeling them in, and from what he tells me, if they're passing by him, he winks at them, then ignores them for a little bit.
Well a wink then ignoring them for a while doesn't really seem much different than a sly smile. This just proves this guy doesn't really know how he does it or isn't really telling you.

I have winged with guys who weren't all that goodlooking and the things they were saying weren't all that great but I could see them getting attraction from the girls. And I've winged with other guys who were taller, better looking, more intelligent and I could see they rarely got attraction. And the only thing I could possibly attribute this difference too is something about the attracting guy was smoother and he had better expressions. I wouldn't doubt that women are idiots in regards to what they're attracted to but their attraction isn't random. There's some method to their madness.
 

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ketostix said:
Well a wink then ignoring them for a while doesn't really seem much different than a sly smile. This just proves this guy doesn't really know how he does it or isn't really telling you.
He first winks, then ignores, then strikes up a conversation with them. Yeah, who knows, he may not know how he does it or isn't really telling me.



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And the only thing I could possibly attribute this difference too is something about the attracting guy was smoother and he had better expressions.
I can't think of any other logical explanation either.
 

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edger said:
He first winks, then ignores, then strikes up a conversation with them. Yeah, who knows, he may not know how he does it or isn't really telling me.

Yeah there's more to it than wink, ignore then, approach. That actually is minor just push pull right there, but it takes more than that to seal the deal. Maybe something that happens in the ensueing conversation.




I can't think of any other logical explanation either.
Forget logical, just any explanation or cause. It's obviously an emotional response in the female, but that is not random but repeatable. Through the process of elimination it could only be of one or two visual qualities is my thinking.
 

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I have yet another example to cite. I just remembered this tonight, because the guy in this example called me tonight to ask me something. Check this out:

This guy I know, 37 yrs old, is above average looking(not great looking either though)..but the thing is, his hair looks like crap. It's long, a little past his shoulders, but hangs in his face, and looks stringy and unkept, so for that, I wouldn't classify him as a "good-looking" guy. Phenomenal musician by the way. Anyhow, he attended one of the KISS conventions in NYC, and met a hot blonde(I seen her pics, she's definitely hot). He called me tonight about 2 hrs ago, and I asked him how they met exactly. He told me she walked up to him, and told him she liked his face paint(he had his face painted like Ace Freely from KISS, hahaha, what an idiot..see, this is what I mean. You call that good game, trying to look like someone else? lol.) So they hit it off from there, and ended up in a relationship. Now to recap everything, this guy tries to look like Ace Freely from KISS and his hair looks like crap.

Now, this guy doesn't pull tail at all. I feel sorry for him, he has a really bad alcohol problem and is always drunk when out at the clubs, so it puts a damper on his game. He tries to hit on chix while there, but looks utterly pathetic because the he's so drunk, he looks stupid. We all laugh. But I feel bad, because his alcohol problem is really bad. So bad that he was kicked out of a pretty well-known, reputable Metal band. I won't say which band for confidentiality reasons. I don't think he was with his girlfriend when he was in the band. I don't know how he does when he's sober. But since I've known him(and I've known him for the past year and a half), I haven't seen him pull one hot chick.

Point is though, when he met this chick, his hair looked like sh*t, and was trying to look like Ace Freely from KISS. What a retard. By the way, Metal people AREN'T like this, this guy is a rare breed, lol. Now you would think a chick would especially think it's lame for a guy to dress up as Ace Freely, right? Well, apparently not this hottie. Beats the sh*t out of me.
 

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By the way, KISS conventions are a haven for hot women. Never been to one, nor do I plan too(never liked KISS), but I've seen pics, and holy f*ckin' sh*t, porno looking queens dispersed everywhere.
 

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edger said:
I have yet another example to cite. I just remembered this tonight, because the guy in this example called me tonight to ask me something. Check this out:

This guy I know, 37 yrs old, is above average looking(not great looking either though)..but the thing is, his hair looks like crap. It's long, a little past his shoulders, but hangs in his face, and looks stringy and unkept, so for that, I wouldn't classify him as a "good-looking" guy. Phenomenal musician by the way. Anyhow, he attended one of the KISS conventions in NYC, and met a hot blonde(I seen her pics, she's definitely hot). He called me tonight about 2 hrs ago, and I asked him how they met exactly. He told me she walked up to him, and told him she liked his face paint(he had his face painted like Ace Freely from KISS, hahaha, what an idiot..see, this is what I mean. You call that good game, trying to look like someone else? lol.) So they hit it off from there, and ended up in a relationship. Now to recap everything, this guy tries to look like Ace Freely from KISS and his hair looks like crap.

Now, this guy doesn't pull tail at all. I feel sorry for him, he has a really bad alcohol problem and is always drunk when out at the clubs, so it puts a damper on his game. He tries to hit on chix while there, but looks utterly pathetic because the he's so drunk, he looks stupid. We all laugh. But I feel bad, because his alcohol problem is really bad. So bad that he was kicked out of a pretty well-known, reputable Metal band. I won't say which band for confidentiality reasons. I don't think he was with his girlfriend when he was in the band. I don't know how he does when he's sober. But since I've known him(and I've known him for the past year and a half), I haven't seen him pull one hot chick.

Point is though, when he met this chick, his hair looked like sh*t, and was trying to look like Ace Freely from KISS. What a retard. By the way, Metal people AREN'T like this, this guy is a rare breed, lol. Now you would think a chick would especially think it's lame for a guy to dress up as Ace Freely, right? Well, apparently not this hottie. Beats the sh*t out of me.
LoL Well maybe in his case he just got lucky once but you did say she ended up being his girlfriend so if it was just luuck you'd think it'd just been a ONS or short time thing. It kind of seems you hang out in a metal crowd and the women who are going to be attracted these types are going to be attracted to eccentric type guys. Although I do know what you're saying about guys not seeming to have much going for them at all but still attract girls.
 

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edger said:
By the way, KISS conventions are a haven for hot women. Never been to one, nor do I plan too(never liked KISS), but I've seen pics, and holy f*ckin' sh*t, porno looking queens dispersed everywhere.
Well my impression is that Kiss appeals to the adolescent mentality and I think many hot women are attracted to adolescent minded guys.
 

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edger said:
While I can maybe see a woman settling at 38, I can't see her settling to that degree. Look at what I mentioned about him.
I am 40 and I am around a LOT of women in their 30s. Trust me when I tell you that you are wrong.
 

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edger said:
Eye contact seduction technique I always use, but I've never employed the "wink" tactic, because I always thought it was corny, so overdone, so old. I like to keep it fresh, as well as "original".
The few times I have used it...it works for me. Why? Because I only use it on women that I know find me attractive.

When I see a hot woman I wanna bang, I make eye contact, and that is about it. Occasionally I'll slip a smile-smirk in there depending on my mood. Usually though, strong eye contact alone is enough to let her know you're interested. After I make eye contact and hold the gaze, I wait to see if she responds to it. I usually look for a smile or a locked gaze on her part, and that is what cues me in on whether she's interested or not.
You can potentially freak her out if you don't smile. You see? Eye contact without a smile = staring. Staring = creepy.
 

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Well my impression is that Kiss appeals to the adolescent mentality and I think many hot women are attracted to adolescent minded guys.
Adolescent mentallity...or women that are either drunk or into drugs.

None of those women is what I consider "sexy" (even if they are "hot" from a physical perspective).

Just because a woman looks "hot"...does not mean she is the type of woman a DJ would want to be involved with. There are a LOT of hot women out there. We don't have to settle for the low quality ones.
 
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