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Why are you guys so negative/cynical towards women??

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My sister in NY - legit 8-9/10, very very loyal wife, is crazy about her husband, great mom with 3 beautiful little girls. He's a legit 3-4/10 (chubby Armenian dude with huge nose, balding terribly)

My co worker - legit 7/10 Spanish woman, very loyal, works at home and supports the household, great mom, great person

My best friend's girlfriend - 8/10 middle eastern woman, fantastic person, makes 350K a year, is crazy about her boyfriend. My friend is 5'3 tall and makes about 60K a year


So why are you guys so negative/cynical towards the entire female gender? There are awful and good people in both genders
 

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I forgot to add about my 7/10 spanish co worker


her husband is a 3/10 - chubby, totally bald, back problems so hasn't made much money last 4 years. She is still very loyal to him
 

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I forgot to add about my 7/10 spanish co worker


her husband is a 3/10 - chubby, totally bald, back problems so hasn't made much money last 4 years. She is still very loyal to him
love. They say latinos are loyal wives.
 

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How do they get such "quality" women while they are not on par physically and financially?!

Betta step up my game!
 

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I forgot to add about my 7/10 spanish co worker


her husband is a 3/10 - chubby, totally bald, back problems so hasn't made much money last 4 years. She is still very loyal to him

I very much doubt this!
 

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I very much doubt this!
no bull****

she is awesome. She is not gorgeous but she has a cute face, hot body with great ass, great skin, great hair, great personality, smart, super sweet, etc....

she is not even considering divorce even though her husband is a total lame
 

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My sister in NY - legit 8-9/10, very very loyal wife, is crazy about her husband, great mom with 3 beautiful little girls. He's a legit 3-4/10 (chubby Armenian dude with huge nose, balding terribly)

My co worker - legit 7/10 Spanish woman, very loyal, works at home and supports the household, great mom, great person

My best friend's girlfriend - 8/10 middle eastern woman, fantastic person, makes 350K a year, is crazy about her boyfriend. My friend is 5'3 tall and makes about 60K a year


So why are you guys so negative/cynical towards the entire female gender? There are awful and good people in both genders
You have to look at the bigger picture. You can't generalize from 3 women you know to make statements about what's happening in society at large. There are at least 360 million people in the US alone, and likely around 30 million here illegally. That's 180 million women and there are some easily discernible general trends in dating. I really don't care to list all of them since these trends are widely understood, although often reluctantly acknowledged.

These include the elevation of women to a status of superiority, the degradation of men as a 'toxic' negative element, the promotion of homosexuality and transgenderism, the acceptance of divorce, widespread infidelity, etc. Basically everything society has ever held dear is now ridiculed and undermined with enormous energy and ferocity.

For anyone to believe that women are not going to take advantage of this situation in large numbers is simply preposterous.

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In my own situation, I have been approached and propositioned so many times by married women, seen them openly disrespect, insult and taunt their husbands sometimes while the husbands and boyfriends are present, I have had so many women on dates or with boyfriends approach me. I have had so many women never inform me about a boyfriend or even a husband, I naturally view women with some degree of suspicion.

I've gotten handjobs on the dance floor from girls who showed up with a boyfriend. I've gotten bj's from girls in the bathroom who showed up with a boyfriend. I've slept with numerous women who gave me their phone numbers while their husband or fiancee was in the same room.

I have to say however, I've never seen married women so blatantly attempt to cheat on their husbands as in the past calendar year. Many married women are showing up to what are traditionally understood to be singles events. Literally every single married woman who has showed up to such events has approached me. I don't even go to these events that often, once or twice a month. Married women don't show up to these events in large numbers, it's usually just a single married woman. But in just about every single case I was aware of, I've been approached by whatever married woman showed up.

This is something you'd have to see or experience firsthand to truly understand. It is rampant. It is normal. It happens so frequently that one would begin to suspect that women do this in order to humiliate ("cuck") their boyfriend or husband publicly to see just how far they can push things.
 
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You have to look at the bigger picture. You can't generalize from 3 women you know to make statements about what's happening in society at large. There are at least 360 million people in the US alone, and likely around 30 million here illegally. That's 180 million women and there are some easily discernible general trends in dating. I really don't care to list all of them since these trends are widely understood, although often reluctantly acknowledged.

These include the elevation of women to a status of superiority, the degradation of men as a 'toxic' negative element, the promotion of homosexuality and transgenderism, the acceptance of divorce, widespread infidelity, etc. Basically everything society has ever held dear is now ridiculed and undermined with enormous energy and ferocity.

For anyone to believe that women are not going to take advantage of this situation in large numbers is simply preposterous.

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In my own situation, I have been approached and propositioned so many times by married women, seen them openly disrespect, insult and taunt their husbands sometimes while the husbands and boyfriends are present, I have had so many women on dates or with boyfriends approach me. I have had so many women never inform me about a boyfriend or even a husband, I naturally view women with some degree of suspicion.

I've gotten handjobs on the dance floor from girls who showed up with a boyfriend. I've gotten bj's from girls in the bathroom who showed up with a boyfriend. I've slept with numerous women who gave me their phone numbers while their husband or fiancee was in the same room.

I have to say however, I've never seen married women so blatantly attempt to cheat on their husbands as in the past calendar year. Many married women are showing up to what are traditionally understood to be singles events. Literally every single married woman who has showed up to such events has approached me. I don't even go to these events that often, once or twice a month. Married women don't show up to these events in large numbers, it's usually just a single married woman. But in just about every single case I was aware of, I've been approached by whatever married woman showed up.

This is something you'd have to see or experience firsthand to truly understand. It is rampant. It is normal. It happens so frequently that one would begin to suspect that women do this in order to humiliate ("cuck") their boyfriend or husband publicly to see just how far they can push things.
This makes you the 5th poster on the forum whom I know fvcks women.
 

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I have 3 horrible sister in laws.
My sister in law and mother in law sucked too. I can see what you guys refer to on here when you b1tch about women.
 

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So why are you guys so negative/cynical towards the entire female gender?
Experience would be my guess. But you're the one who says women won't be interested in you unless you're in the top 0.0001% or whatever it is.

How do they get such "quality" women while they are not on par physically and financially?!
Betta step up my game!
Or step it down :)
 

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My sister in NY - legit 8-9/10, very very loyal wife, is crazy about her husband, great mom with 3 beautiful little girls. He's a legit 3-4/10 (chubby Armenian dude with huge nose, balding terribly)

My co worker - legit 7/10 Spanish woman, very loyal, works at home and supports the household, great mom, great person

My best friend's girlfriend - 8/10 middle eastern woman, fantastic person, makes 350K a year, is crazy about her boyfriend. My friend is 5'3 tall and makes about 60K a year


So why are you guys so negative/cynical towards the entire female gender? There are awful and good people in both genders
like zekko and others said

Experience
 

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I cant speak to public humiliation, but it is a dynamic maintained in secret that literally 100% of women ive dated wanted(they are all
6+).

They want an exclusive relationship(and they want it IMMEDIATELY, if they avoid it then you are low IL or mid IL) where you have no options bc "exclusive" but they have options and hamstering rationalizations justifying monkey branching at any time. Even if they don't push for it (because they have other good options, low IL) they will still do everythind and say anything to make sure you don't catch on, including telling you they love you and other emotional manipulation, and texting you every day even though you have very little chance of success and they know it. It's ok because entitled to the best man they can find in limited time before the Wall. Their culpability in pissing away their youth doesn't change the entitlement factor.

They get to go out and party and hang out with orbiters and flirt, either overtly or in secret. They do seem to take some secret joy out of maintaining the status quo in that way, it is sort of empowering.

I have seen women I was one of the orbiters of go into a sort of ecstatic Mania when they're with you and some other guy they like texts. Same with snap chatting you while their in some boyfriend-zoned guys passenger seat. Boyfriend can't say sh1t bc he will be shamed as insecure and needy to wonder why she ignores him(if she even let's on at a more than minimal level). The thought of someone getting ecstasy at my expense in this manner is infuriating to me, I will never truly get over it.

The more high status you as the boyfriend are, the more fun it is to get away with this stuff (they resent you). The modern exclusive relationship is simply exploitation unless you found a very good woman.
Wow dude. Those are some slimey bytches and they do this.
 

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My sister in NY - legit 8-9/10, very very loyal wife, is crazy about her husband, great mom with 3 beautiful little girls. He's a legit 3-4/10 (chubby Armenian dude with huge nose, balding terribly)

My co worker - legit 7/10 Spanish woman, very loyal, works at home and supports the household, great mom, great person

My best friend's girlfriend - 8/10 middle eastern woman, fantastic person, makes 350K a year, is crazy about her boyfriend. My friend is 5'3 tall and makes about 60K a year
That is how they are in the surface. You don't know the truth about things unless you have a 24/7 drone monitoring people, right?
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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Why ?

Fool me once shame on you...
Fool me twice shame on me...

Once you get burned a few times you learn.
 

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There's a fine line between a cynic and a realist. I don't view women as all doing bad things or being bad people. I view women the same way that I view men. As flawed individuals with the potential to do terrible things or be terrible people. And as someone who has spent a lot of time being interested in what I don't know, I've spoken to hundreds of women over the last decade and they all have stories you just wouldn't expect.

Hell, last month a woman I respect quite highly told me about the time she cheat on her boyfriend in her late twenties. They'd been dating for two years. She said he was a great guy and she was happy in the relationship and that she knew exactly what she was doing and that it was wrong. When I asked her why she did it, she said she didn't know. I know why, because it felt good at the time. I've dated three women that cheat on me and the people who knew them were shocked. By the third time, I wasn't anymore. I've met a number of women indirectly who have surprised me as well. Women who on first impressions seems sweet and kind but who are actually immoral demons. I'm not sure why, but it's much easier to spot a good man than a good woman.

I know of more terrible relationships and cheating men and women than I know of great relationships. But I do know a lot of great relationships as well. It's a balance. Don't be cynical, be aware. Know what to look for and don't be stupid.
 

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Be because they are sneaky and dishonest and never have any remorse for what they do wrong. They will just rationalize it and put the blame on you. They think they can do whatever they feel like at the time and it's ok because they feel like it.
 

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Most people in life tend towards absoloutes

Trump supporters vs SJW'S

Feminists vs Manosphere

Mayweather vs Pacquiao

What you see is people get emotionally invested in "their side"

So their side can do absoloutley no wrong while the other side can do absolutely nothing right

My advice to ANYONE is don't get to invested in defending "your side"

You have to learn to see shades of grey.

All relationships that aren't bonded by blood are TRANSACTIONAL
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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