Why are women liars?

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When the chick invited me over to her place to hang out, she then led me to her bedroom and said "I don't want to have sex because I want to feel a connection first." So I said "OK no problem, I'm enjoying my time as is."

About five minutes pass. As I'm eating her out she says, "I lied, I want you inside of me!"

I wanted to kick her out of the apartment but it was hers, not mine, so I wasn't in my rights. But why do women lie? Thoughts?
 

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Apparently you passed her shyt test. :p
They were pretty easy tests, but then again I had to study all of the material. Two steps forward, one step back. Patience and let her come to you at her own pace. And some other stuff I forgot.

Oh yeah, the dicarlo escalation ladder. Big one there. And just don't seem like a needy hornyboy.
 

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When the chick invited me over to her place to hang out, she then led me to her bedroom and said "I don't want to have sex because I want to feel a connection first." So I said "OK no problem, I'm enjoying my time as is."

About five minutes pass. As I'm eating her out she says, "I lied, I want you inside of me!"

I wanted to kick her out of the apartment but it was hers, not mine, so I wasn't in my rights. But why do women lie? Thoughts?
Taking a woman's words literally will drive you insane trying to understand and follow their logic.

Instead, follow their actions, as those are more congruent to how they actually feel and is more aligned with their actual intentions. Obviously this is not an ironclad rule, and some nuance is required, but it serves quite well as a general rule of thumb (not just with women, but with people in general too).

Why do women lie? In your case, it appears to be a classic case of the ASD (Anti-Slvt Defence). She does not want to come off as a slvt or someone who is easy. Alternatively, it could also be a sh!t test to see if you are are a desperate s3xless dude with no social game.

In any event, you seem to have handled it fine.
 

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Taking a woman's words literally will drive you insane trying to understand and follow their logic.

Instead, follow their actions, as those are more congruent to how they actually feel and is more aligned with their actual intentions. Obviously this is not an ironclad rule, and some nuance is required, but it serves quite well as a general rule of thumb (not just with women, but with people in general too).
Good point! Women are governed by their feelings and actions are reflective of feelings.
 

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I would like, "I wanna feel the connection too (grab her and kiss her), but look how hard you're making me, you look so fvcking sexy in that dress (jeans, skirt)" then keep kissing her and escalate.
Seems unnecessary especially when it's pretty clear all you gotta do is hang back and wait until she can't handle it anymore (which is what happened).

Being aggressive is worse because the women test to see if you can handle yourself or if you're just a horndog.

This would have failed.
 

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Seems unnecessary especially when it's pretty clear all you gotta do is hang back and wait until she can't handle it anymore (which is what happened).

Being aggressive is worse because the women test to see if you can handle yourself or if you're just a horndog.

This would have failed.
It never ceases to amaze me how complicated people make this stuff.

What is your aim with women? Marriage? Kids? Casual sex?
 

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I would like, "I wanna feel the connection too (grab her and kiss her), but look how hard you're making me, you look so fvcking sexy in that dress (jeans, skirt)" then keep kissing her and escalate.
This is VERY effective if your delivery is cool and confident and bold (this is a great example of the bold move, which women find ridiculously sexy).

But. You have to deliver such a line in a sexy cool ‘you know you wanna say yes’ kinda way.
 

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A blank statement as "women are liars" itself is just as meaningless and pointless as the "men are h0rrny dirty pigs and want nothing but sex" statement.

Most of the time, what most men perceive as "lying" in women is just that women communicate in a indirect and subtle way more frequently than men. And I can't blame most men for this, because, as far as the cliché "redpill" goes, it takes time and experience to truly realize (and eventually accept) this as an critically intergrated part of the female nature.

For example, a guy chasing after a girl for a long period of time, until he, finally depleted of patience, time, and mental energy, decides to "confess" his love to her with the vain hope that she's DTF afterwards, only to get back the classic "I already had a boyfriend" response. And later, he's found out that she in fact didn't have a boyfriend, so he accused her of "lying".

Yes, technically, she "lied." Yes, it would have been better if she just said sth along the line of "Sorry I don't like you or I don't wanna get into a relationship right now". But if only he had known better, he would have understood that female don't communicate directly, that the fact she lied about having a boyfriends doesn't really matter, what matters is that she's not into him, romantically and sexually.

And it's his fault for not understanding this, not vice versa.
 

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You had to eat her out to get the access pass. Maybe it will be her a$$ next time if the access price goes up.
 

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You had to eat her out to get the access pass. Maybe it will be her a$$ next time if the access price goes up.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. :cool:
 
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