Why are women liars?

[sosuave213]

When the chick invited me over to her place to hang out, she then led me to her bedroom and said "I don't want to have sex because I want to feel a connection first." So I said "OK no problem, I'm enjoying my time as is."

About five minutes pass. As I'm eating her out she says, "I lied, I want you inside of me!"

I wanted to kick her out of the apartment but it was hers, not mine, so I wasn't in my rights. But why do women lie? Thoughts?

 

[CornbreadFed]

so you got laid? Congrats!

 

[member162951]

So I said "OK no problem, I'm enjoying my time as is."

Apparently you passed her shyt test.

 

[sosuave213]

Apparently you passed her shyt test.

They were pretty easy tests, but then again I had to study all of the material. Two steps forward, one step back. Patience and let her come to you at her own pace. And some other stuff I forgot.

Oh yeah, the dicarlo escalation ladder. Big one there. And just don't seem like a needy hornyboy.

 

[sosuave213]

Are you even a real person? Your posts are consistently unhinged.

I get that a lot. Maybe just the amount of acid I've done makes me cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

 

[TheProspect]

When the chick invited me over to her place to hang out, she then led me to her bedroom and said "I don't want to have sex because I want to feel a connection first." So I said "OK no problem, I'm enjoying my time as is."

About five minutes pass. As I'm eating her out she says, "I lied, I want you inside of me!"

I wanted to kick her out of the apartment but it was hers, not mine, so I wasn't in my rights. But why do women lie? Thoughts?

Taking a woman's words literally will drive you insane trying to understand and follow their logic.

Instead, follow their actions, as those are more congruent to how they actually feel and is more aligned with their actual intentions. Obviously this is not an ironclad rule, and some nuance is required, but it serves quite well as a general rule of thumb (not just with women, but with people in general too).

Why do women lie? In your case, it appears to be a classic case of the ASD (Anti-Slvt Defence). She does not want to come off as a slvt or someone who is easy. Alternatively, it could also be a sh!t test to see if you are are a desperate s3xless dude with no social game.

In any event, you seem to have handled it fine.

 

[SW15]

Taking a woman's words literally will drive you insane trying to understand and follow their logic.

Instead, follow their actions, as those are more congruent to how they actually feel and is more aligned with their actual intentions. Obviously this is not an ironclad rule, and some nuance is required, but it serves quite well as a general rule of thumb (not just with women, but with people in general too).

Good point! Women are governed by their feelings and actions are reflective of feelings.

 

[sosuave213]

I would like, "I wanna feel the connection too (grab her and kiss her), but look how hard you're making me, you look so fvcking sexy in that dress (jeans, skirt)" then keep kissing her and escalate.

Seems unnecessary especially when it's pretty clear all you gotta do is hang back and wait until she can't handle it anymore (which is what happened).

Being aggressive is worse because the women test to see if you can handle yourself or if you're just a horndog.

This would have failed.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Seems unnecessary especially when it's pretty clear all you gotta do is hang back and wait until she can't handle it anymore (which is what happened).

Being aggressive is worse because the women test to see if you can handle yourself or if you're just a horndog.

This would have failed.

It never ceases to amaze me how complicated people make this stuff.

What is your aim with women? Marriage? Kids? Casual sex?

 

[sosuave213]

It never ceases to amaze me how complicated people make this stuff.

What is your aim with women? Marriage? Kids? Casual sex?

It's a moment-by-moment thing bro.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Moderators, we should try to weed out all of these black-pilled posts. They are not constructive and as far as I understand it, not aligned with the principles taught and discussed here.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Manure Spherian]

It's a moment-by-moment thing bro.

Well by that premise, a woman does not even owe you honesty.

 

[BeExcellent]

I would like, "I wanna feel the connection too (grab her and kiss her), but look how hard you're making me, you look so fvcking sexy in that dress (jeans, skirt)" then keep kissing her and escalate.

This is VERY effective if your delivery is cool and confident and bold (this is a great example of the bold move, which women find ridiculously sexy).

But. You have to deliver such a line in a sexy cool ‘you know you wanna say yes’ kinda way.

 

[jamesfromhouston]

Are you even a real person? Your posts are consistently unhinged.

I suspect he is an AI deployed as part of some experiment.

 

[sosuave213]

I suspect he is an AI deployed as part of some experiment.

Ok.

 

[manfrombelow]

A blank statement as "women are liars" itself is just as meaningless and pointless as the "men are h0rrny dirty pigs and want nothing but sex" statement.

Most of the time, what most men perceive as "lying" in women is just that women communicate in a indirect and subtle way more frequently than men. And I can't blame most men for this, because, as far as the cliché "redpill" goes, it takes time and experience to truly realize (and eventually accept) this as an critically intergrated part of the female nature.

For example, a guy chasing after a girl for a long period of time, until he, finally depleted of patience, time, and mental energy, decides to "confess" his love to her with the vain hope that she's DTF afterwards, only to get back the classic "I already had a boyfriend" response. And later, he's found out that she in fact didn't have a boyfriend, so he accused her of "lying".

Yes, technically, she "lied." Yes, it would have been better if she just said sth along the line of "Sorry I don't like you or I don't wanna get into a relationship right now". But if only he had known better, he would have understood that female don't communicate directly, that the fact she lied about having a boyfriends doesn't really matter, what matters is that she's not into him, romantically and sexually.

And it's his fault for not understanding this, not vice versa.

 

[manfrombelow]

Moderators, we should try to weed out all of these black-pilled posts. They are not constructive and as far as I understand it, not aligned with the principles taught and discussed here.

Thanks in advance.

100% agreed.

 

[corrector]

You had to eat her out to get the access pass. Maybe it will be her a$$ next time if the access price goes up.

 

[RangerMIke]

I don't think women 'lie' per se as much as men by and large just not paying attention. Most of her communication is other than the words coming out of her mouth.

Bottom line is men should own what happens. If a dude lets a chick drag him down a dead-end street, he let that happens. Best not blame her, since that is mostly a waste of time... just put it in reverse and carefully back out... chalk it up to experience and learn from what happened.

Like @manfrombelow said... these kids of comments come from men that were overly committed to some chick... when if he was REALLY paying attention to something other than is ego, would have known things were doomed to go sideways.

Rather than blaming her... introspectively evaluate what happened to see if it was possible to have seen this coming. But yeah... sometimes chicks do just up and lie... but most of the time a man could have seen it coming with a little bit of awareness.

 

[RangerMIke]

I think it would be more helpful to forum members if we had more posts that said, "I should have seen this coming!" Rather than ranting about something that went off the rails.