Why are people against improvement? A rant

[BeExcellent]

Another thing. To lead is to be alone. Once you start to break out of the status quo, everyone around you are like crabs in the bucket trying to pull you back in. Some friendships have to die so you can evolve into something better.

Advice from the old lady: This is a great thread and is just as true now as it’s ever been. As you progress in life, if you are growing, you actually outgrow some friendships. Sometimes you leave family behind too. You have to. Your vibrational energy changes as you change. People who *think* they are better than you where you were, who don’t cheer you on? They are garbage. But the few who stick around and are real friends as you grow? Those people are gold.

 

[Ricky]

Did OP ever get muscular?

i remember him back in the day. I have no idea what he is up to now. I left the board before him… but obviously been back due to marriage issues on my end. I never lost a love for the game, i just was semi-retired for many years.

 

[Ricky]

Advice from the old lady: This is a great thread and is just as true now as it’s ever been. As you progress in life, if you are growing, you actually outgrow some friendships. Sometimes you leave family behind too. You have to. Your vibrational energy changes as you change. People who *think* they are better than you where you were, who don’t cheer you on? They are garbage. But the few who stick around and are real friends as you grow? Those people are gold.

Great post. I agree BeExcellent. The weird part ive found in life is that no matter how close a friend is… the choice to change habits is always up to them. I feel like i could influence friends to make changes and better habits but its really the old leading a horse to water doesnt mean you can make them drink….

and most of my friends are the horses that like to drink alot haha.

 

[sangheilios]

i remember him back in the day. I have no idea what he is up to now. I left the board before him… but obviously been back due to marriage issues on my end. I never lost a love for the game, i just was semi-retired for many years.

This thread is from 2002 lol, over 20 years ago. Crazy to see an old post on here from so long ago, and not only that but see a member from 2002 posting on here more recently.

 

[SargeMaximus]

i remember him back in the day. I have no idea what he is up to now. I left the board before him… but obviously been back due to marriage issues on my end. I never lost a love for the game, i just was semi-retired for many years.

Must be nice. I tried the game and couldn’t get it to work for me. So I went my own way and got laid. Kind of radicalized me tbh

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

Must be nice. I tried the game and couldn’t get it to work for me. So I went my own way and got laid. Kind of radicalized me tbh

This is the way

 

[Manure Spherian]

Though I think some men getting the most out of themselves is a good thing, I also believe the whole notion of others trying to hinder others’ self-improvement projects is highly exaggerated and an attention grabber.

Most people tending to things in their own lives, no matter how mundane and routine they are, do not give a rat’s as$ that some guy work outs (in some cases 20 years late, after becoming a middle-aged fat body), studying, or professionally excelling. In some cases they might even think he would be better off doing something else.

It’s a common trope used amongst internet celebrities in particular. Hence one sees posts like, “I didn’t let anyone tell me I couldn’t do it!,” when likely no one cared about what they did, or in some cases looked down upon it.

 

[Lean Baby Face]

Must be nice. I tried the game and couldn’t get it to work for me. So I went my own way and got laid. Kind of radicalized me tbh

I think some personality types can end up getting too analytical when gaming which ends up taking from their authenticity and own unique qualities which can negatively impact their approaching, as women may end up thinking you're just another lonely loser eager for sex because you got no real character or personality exactly like what you're showcasing while approaching.

Game shouldn't be about changing yourself into someone you're not. It's just about developing the necessary skills.

 

[jhonny9546]

People sense your strength and it starts to tick them off.

So, accept, that being strong is going to lead to increased attacks against you. The bigger your ego is the more defense you have to operate. People will try to bring you down, and when they figure out that they can't they'll get dirty and they'll gang up.

Yes! There are also "**** tests" to pass with a masculine frame. In fact, if you are in a long-term relationship with a woman and she sees that you are constantly improving, she will be attracted to that. However, what if you encounter an obstacle to tackle that takes time? She may lose interest in you, and while you're thinking about a new strategy to finally overcome that obstacle, she might give you several **** tests.

For example, you could be studying because you want to change careers, and your woman might say something like, "Why are you still at that job?" or "You are so intelligent; there are people like you out there in the Big Four or who are entrepreneurs, and many less capable individuals have better job positions than yours. Why are you still at that job?" said with a malicious tone..

Which is the correct way to reply to this, keeping the good masculine frame?


This can happen in many other social scenarios, like other people **** testing you, after you've done some improvement, not only in your looks.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

For example, you could be studying because you want to change careers, and your woman might say something like, "Why are you still at that job?" or "You are so intelligent; there are people like you out there in the Big Four or who are entrepreneurs, and many less capable individuals have better job positions than yours. Why are you still at that job?" said with a malicious tone..

Sounds like you're dating the wrong women, dude. Date a better class of women.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Sounds like you're dating the wrong women, dude. Date a better class of women.

....and what country do you suggest he move to? Dude's in Italy.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

....and what country do you suggest he move to? Dude's in Italy.

He doesn't need to move, why are you suggesting other countries? There are classy Italian women and there are trashy ones. Don't date the trashy ones.

All these mental acrobatics in order to justify not dating people. Just readjust your standards and find a better class of women to date. And if you need to level up to reach that goal, this forum is there to give you advice and teach you how to respect yourself enough to get rid of people disrespecting you.

 

[Gamisch]

He doesn't need to move, why are you suggesting other countries? There are classy Italian women and there are trashy ones. Don't date the trashy ones.

All these mental acrobatics in order to justify not dating people. Just readjust your standards and find a better class of women to date. And if you need to level up to reach that goal, this forum is there to give you advice and teach you how to respect yourself enough to get rid of people disrespecting you.

I really like this post Martyn!

Despite it being contradictory to your view in your latest thread about the master don Juan title or not.

I say that because imo THIS is the only way to go for men nowadays. Because you can chase low level women (and get some with TONS of struggle and effort) those same women will keep you down and away from that "better class" you talk about.

So basically the most sound advice for most men who struggle with women is to level the eff up! Doesn't matter if dude has game or not. With enough improvement most men will attract the dimes in their niches more easily .

At this point the forum should be way more about finances, style, and fitness. The redpill/ manosphere needs a drastic make over!

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Despite it being contradictory to your view in your latest thread about the master don Juan title or not.

Where is the contradiction?