Why are hot, uneducated girls harder to game?

[Dash Riprock]

I've always struggled with with women who are uneducated and work in menial jobs. Yes, I've tried to date them. S*crewed a few. But, I've also found they usually have very low self esteem--because they don't have anything going for them other than "looks"--so they're generally not as interested in me as the guy who also has low self-esteem or that I would consider a "dirt bag." It makes the girl feel good that she's with someone who doesn't make her feel bad by default because he's successful and she's not. Weird I know, but true. I banged a hot chick I met at a concert and then again the next weekend. She drove about an hour to see me. I actually told her I liked her and wanted to see her again and her response was "But there's so much intellectual and educational difference between us." I never saw her again.

These girls are for ONS, STR, or FWBs only.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You think this, and yet, you are doing everything and anything, including breaking your own bones to be taller, to get validation from these girls.

Life's a b1tch, right?

 

[RichardTheFrog]

He despises them, even the one's he pays for, he despises it, keeps doing it. Despises the women working lower paid jobs, inferior intelligence, nothing to offer.

Richard has mental health issues and/or mild autism.

I despise the ones I pay for? Quit putting words in my mouth you fvcking dork.

I despise the ones with horrible personalities.

And now we're back to the amateur psychology hour.

 

[AJ84]

Life's a b1tch, right?

Richard, there is not one woman on the face of this earth worth the effort that you are putting out, and I'm saying that as a woman.

Think about it, if a woman requires you to be tall, rich, drive an expensive car, and be ripped with a full head of hair just for her to like you, she will likely have a horrible personality. The women I know who are like that are witches, with capital Bs.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Richard, there is not one woman on the face of this earth worth the effort that you are putting out, and I'm saying that as a woman.

Think about it, if a woman requires you to be tall, rich, drive an expensive car, and be ripped with a full head of hair just for her to like you, she will likely have a horrible personality. The women I know who are like that are witches, with capital Bs.

Yet despite all the effort, there's no one there.

Unless I pay them, which I don't really mind because it's fun.

 

[Paarth Shah]

So much bs in this thread

Of course the women your sourrounded by are going to appear easier to game. There’s no questioning of your status and there’s already familiarity which is a sort of social proof.

You expect a random hottie waitress to somehow be able to tell you’re an accomplished educated man? How? And more importantly, what does it matter if you are? Since when is being accomplished universally recognized as a panty dropper? Who ever said that had anything to do with triggering desire in women?

The above and the fact that you call them uneducated gives me the impression that you’re entitled. Which means nothing with women. Just take a look at bigdaves threads on the forum. He’s the crowning achievement of feminine social conditioning in which he lived his literal whole life to becoming that which women claim to be attracted to and now thinks he deserves a 10 but can’t figure out why he can’t even get a date

Fair points, though what social status do their current boyfriends possess? Maybe the view from the other side would equally be difficult, for let's say a bouncer at a club to be able to game a doctor chick. Im not sure, I haven't really analyzed that. But, are you suggesting that the men these hot waitresses go for (as they tend to also be lower income, blue collar mostly) possess more innate confidence and alpha qualities than your average white collar?

 

[Spaz]

Fair points, though what social status do their current boyfriends possess? Maybe the view from the other side would equally be difficult, for let's say a bouncer at a club to be able to game a doctor chick. Im not sure, I haven't really analyzed that. But, are you suggesting that the men these hot waitresses go for (as they tend to also be lower income, blue collar mostly) possess more innate confidence and alpha qualities than your average white collar?

You hv it all wrong.

Guys who has game regardless of education will get women.

Guys who has game and effective will be more successful with women.

Guys who r effective but has no or little game will have problems pulling women across the educational board.

Guys who r not effective and no game has no pulling power over women.

Edit: Effectiveness is not based on his educational level, rather how good is he at earning a living. A contractor can earn millions, same goes for a hacker, a tennis player.

 

[drakeisfire]

Yes, I'm aware of this dynamic however it is unfortunate because the hot pharmacist who's well educated and good looking still can't compare against the 22 year old bottle girl with perfect rack and ass who works at a nightclub. I am the ethnic guy who spent his whole life in school and now has his sh1t together. Though you're suggesting that for my demographics, these women are likely unattainable because they're searching for something else?

I won't pay him much mind.

The guy has a massive inferiority complex in regards to being Indian. He desperately wants white women but they don't want him so he tries to desperately whine about it and get others to stop going after them.

 

[drakeisfire]

So here is the deal OP.

A lot of these girls who are uneducated tend to like rugged and uber-masculine sort of men. So if you have the demeanor of an MMA fighter or a guy who is a bouncer at a club, they will give you all the play you want.

The reason for this is because less educated girls tend to want men who can protect them physically moreso than educated girls do. A lot of educated women tend to make more money, be in more sophisticated crowds and as a result they are around people who are on the intellectual end. Most of them like a man who is exciting and can game them without expecting him to be tough.

Uneducated women are around sketchy characters and aggressive dudes on a daily basis. The tough bouncer, former military guy or the MMA fighter keep her safe so she goes for them. You will notice that most of the guys who these girls date can hold their own in a fight or are so well connected that others won't want to get on their bad side.

Now to me OP, you seem like the stereotypical nerdy geeky Indian guy, no offense. Even if you were a white version of that guy, you would fail. The reason is these women perceive you as weak and you have to shed that stereotype. If you were more like Amir Khan then you would be getting play but if you are like @skinnyguy then you will fail with these women because they don't give any space for weakness.

 

[skinnyguy]

So here is the deal OP.

A lot of these girls who are uneducated tend to like rugged and uber-masculine sort of men. So if you have the demeanor of an MMA fighter or a guy who is a bouncer at a club, they will give you all the play you want.

The reason for this is because less educated girls tend to want men who can protect them physically moreso than educated girls do. A lot of educated women tend to make more money, be in more sophisticated crowds and as a result they are around people who are on the intellectual end. Most of them like a man who is exciting and can game them without expecting him to be tough.

Uneducated women are around sketchy characters and aggressive dudes on a daily basis. The tough bouncer, former military guy or the MMA fighter keep her safe so she goes for them. You will notice that most of the guys who these girls date can hold their own in a fight or are so well connected that others won't want to get on their bad side.

Now to me OP, you seem like the stereotypical nerdy geeky Indian guy, no offense. Even if you were a white version of that guy, you would fail. The reason is these women perceive you as weak and you have to shed that stereotype. If you were more like Amir Khan then you would be getting play but if you are like @skinnyguy then you will fail with these women because they don't give any space for weakness.

I love you too

 

[mrgoodstuff]

So here is the deal OP.

A lot of these girls who are uneducated tend to like rugged and uber-masculine sort of men. So if you have the demeanor of an MMA fighter or a guy who is a bouncer at a club, they will give you all the play you want.

The reason for this is because less educated girls tend to want men who can protect them physically moreso than educated girls do. A lot of educated women tend to make more money, be in more sophisticated crowds and as a result they are around people who are on the intellectual end. Most of them like a man who is exciting and can game them without expecting him to be tough.

Uneducated women are around sketchy characters and aggressive dudes on a daily basis. The tough bouncer, former military guy or the MMA fighter keep her safe so she goes for them. You will notice that most of the guys who these girls date can hold their own in a fight or are so well connected that others won't want to get on their bad side.

Now to me OP, you seem like the stereotypical nerdy geeky Indian guy, no offense. Even if you were a white version of that guy, you would fail. The reason is these women perceive you as weak and you have to shed that stereotype. If you were more like Amir Khan then you would be getting play but if you are like @skinnyguy then you will fail with these women because they don't give any space for weakness.

He nailed this. A bouncer job, or a bartender job or a personal trainer job have huge dividends and side benefits of pvssy.

 

[Roober]

I tend to agree. I have a hard time relating to people (not just women) who are in their 30's or later working dead end jobs. I ask myself... "you are 27, 32, 38, or whatever and the best you can do is waitressing? Bartending? Throwing luggage?" Or anything else that show a complete lack of ambition or drive to improve themselves.

If you are trying to improve yourself in every way, why would you want people trying to catch a free ride on your back. I carry my own weight, why the fvck would I want to carry someone else? Every time you meet someone, you should ask, what can they do for me?

Every woman has a pvssy and after enough of them, you realize there is nothing special about the deadbeat hottie. They have far more to gain than you do. And what does this mean? When you chase a woman of lower value, who is very attractive, you are placing her pvssy on a pedestal. Why? Because that is the only thing that she has to offer and you are stooping to her level to get it.

 

[skinnyguy]

I won't pay him much mind.

The guy has a massive inferiority complex in regards to being Indian. He desperately wants white women but they don't want him so he tries to desperately whine about it and get others to stop going after them.

I cant remember a specific time he said he wants “white” women. For all we know he’s gaming black chicks.

There’s also a big crop of guys on this site who like to slam Indian guys for wanting to go on here and get better. If you were an Indian guy in the United States, you would have committed suicide by now. What you’re doing is the equivalent of me mocking a blind person and saying that they are pathetic. If you’re frustrated by Indian guys, just put us on ignore. Yeah we are whiny b*tches, so what?

 

[Murk]

I know 3 Indian guys from school that were good with women (still moderately are). They were all confident and hung around with us cool kids. One I'm good friends with he is engaged and having a baby with a white women. Another has a baby with a... light... women... she's basically off white I have no idea her ethnicity but shes gorgeous. The other had black, white and Indian girlfriends as long as I've known him. It's definitely all in your head/lack of confidence and nothing to do with you being Indian. Girls love that Zayn guy from One Direction he is just a pale Indian dude.

 

[RangerMIke]

You have more competition with a low-income, stupid, yet hot chick... then you do with a well educated hot chick with a decent career.

Chicks date up.... the low-income, stupid, yet hot chick let's say making $30k per year, will consider ANY DUDE making $50k per year a good catch. Chicks do not grade you on a continuum... they do not look at you as the guy earning 6 figures as better than the guy who earns $50k as better... to her they are both better than her... and that is all that matters. At that point she likely goes with the lower income, less educated guy because they have more in common, and he might be easier to control.

The chick that is well educated and earns a decent living will only get wet for the men that are better than she is, there are fewer men for her to be attracted to... so it's easier for a guy like you.

 

[The Duke]

I've know a few in the bar/restaurant scene. They tend to stay in their own little circle of others like them. I think they secretly look down on those with degrees making $100,000/yr, that don't work nights and wknds! That's the vibe I've always picked up. Every now and then I'll run across a bar tender that has the right personality and demeanor and far more potential in life than his/her colleagues. Those types always welcome me.

 

[drakeisfire]

I cant remember a specific time he said he wants “white” women. For all we know he’s gaming black chicks.

There’s also a big crop of guys on this site who like to slam Indian guys for wanting to go on here and get better. If you were an Indian guy in the United States, you would have committed suicide by now. What you’re doing is the equivalent of me mocking a blind person and saying that they are pathetic. If you’re frustrated by Indian guys, just put us on ignore. Yeah we are whiny b*tches, so what?

Because you are a cancer to this forum man, plain and simple.

If Indian guys have it tough as you think you guys do, here is what you literally do.

1. Give up.

2. Go see escorts or get an arranged marriage.

3. Never come back here.

I do not get the mentality of guys like you have already given up, mentally, and see their handicaps as insurmountable coming on here time and time and time again being an infestation to this forum. People like you are toxic and bring this forum down, you're debbie downers who are emotionally weak and not cut out for the game.

You are whiny but be productive man, just give up.

At this point, you know you're not made to have success in the game and that's okay but leave, you add no value other than whining. Not to mention you are being a bad influence on other Indian guys who are willing to put in the work unlike you. Just give up and move on dude.

 

[skinnyguy]

Bottom line with hot dumb girls:

They won’t respect you if you don’t look like a bad boy.

 

[Murk]

@drakeisfire ALL of your posts in the last 7 days have been about race/ethnicity

 

[fanatic22]

Women look for a man with more status than themselves. A female exec won't be dating a bellboy regardless of his game or attractiveness. Hot women working service jobs therefore have a wider pool of men they're potentially interested in.

That being said, how often have you gamed a high status woman in the wild? My guess is you're comparing women in your social circle with complete strangers.