Why are "fed up with western women" "men" who go abroad for "love" always the type of

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VladPatton said:
In short, any man that condemns his own country's women should be looked at damaged goods. If you hang around a 'natural' long enough you'll quickly notice that that motherfücker can get laid all the same from Sweden to Botswana, to Hawaii to Iceland. He just knows how to deal with women.
You're confusing ones ability to get laid with having the balls to state the obvious. Nothing wrong with calling out obesity and bad behaviour. Nothing wrong with increasing the odds for finding femininity and traditional values by hunting in another country. Time is money to a lot of men.

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ANY video. ANY VIDEO PROMOTING going abroad NOT denouncing it. Every dude looks like a complete weirdo, pedo, pervert, and desperate socially awkward misfit.
Of course they do.

I see this new generation of men disgusted with these chicks more like your Krausers, Roosh's, Roissy's and to a lesser degree your average in fairly good shape beta male. Maybe 3 or 4 decades ago they were all strictly the "creepy" greasy haired moustache twisters, but I'm not buying it now.

Maybe lamenting just how icky all these men looking for fairer snatch in other countries would be more suited to a jizzabel forum eh humble?
 

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I don't know why humble ninja has so much reputation. I guess its because he or she did the "late night interviews" on here.

That is no reason to give some one reputation. Foolish fools.

I personally am 25, very good looking, intelligent, but still learning and getting my life together. I think a chinese peasant girl would make a good mate.

80 to 90% of Westernized women are good for entertainment, sex, and money. Nothing else.

A foreign peasant girl who was raised properly, and from a relatively conservative family would be great for a long term relationship.

Maybe us young, good looking guys don't have enough money to travel like that. Guys my age are generally at our poorest stage in life. It only gets better.
Look at the bright side dude. I'm sure you'll get more reps from this thread for being a "real man" who would love to settle down with a mail order bride.

Do you.
 

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I'm not talking about chicks who move to the U.S and you meet them here. (No problem with that. Hell I've dated foreign chicks who've visited here and met them out and chicks who've moved here.) I'm not even talking about dudes who just happen to go overseas for a vacation to visit a country NOT looking for a wife but happen to meet chicks out regularly.

I'm talking about the dudes who SPECIFICALLY go abroad to find a "wife" or a "girlfriend/ girlfriends". It's ANY video you see promoting that...EVERY dude is the slovenly dork, weirdo, social misfit, etc. who you can TELL never got a hot chick and "dislikes" western chicks yet can't stop putting them down even when they've found "heaven" abroad. It's laughable.
For the most part I agree. If you go on youtube and watch the videos guys take in Thailand or the Phillipines, it is mainly older, overweight, very unattractive men who are walking around trying to get with the young females there. And most of the time when you see a guy with a mail order bride, most of the time he is what one would call below average on the looks scale. So yeah I can't argue there.

Now for the average to above average guys? I highly highly rec meeting foreign women who moved over here to N America. I prefer Asians but there are all kinds. Asians to me are just the nicest, best looking, and most into their men without going into b1tch mode all the time.
 

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For the most part I agree. If you go on youtube and watch the videos guys take in Thailand or the Phillipines, it is mainly older, overweight, very unattractive men who are walking around trying to get with the young females there. And most of the time when you see a guy with a mail order bride, most of the time he is what one would call below average on the looks scale. So yeah I can't argue there.

Now for the average to above average guys? I highly highly rec meeting foreign women who moved over here to N America. I prefer Asians but there are all kinds. Asians to me are just the nicest, best looking, and most into their men without going into b1tch mode all the time.
I've been considering going to China to teach conversational English to adults, or college students.

I'm quite capable, my major is engineering but still I know how to converse well.

Even my ex (who was planning on having me meet her entire extended family) would tell me, "If we go to China, I'm never letting you out by yourself." I said "what, why?" she replied "because all the girls there would try to steal you away."

But I'm 25, and have very good genes.

She even said so. If your a good looking young white guy *cough* you will get a lot of positive attention.
 

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VladPatton said:
All is well when you meet some undemanding little peasant girl fresh off the China boat and she shines up your balls nightly like a champ. It'll all be great until that culture clash hits you like a ton of bricks. Everything from language, in-laws, wedding style and food will be a struggle. Either the guy gets all Asianed out, or the girl renounces her ethnicity. It always goes one way or the other.

In short, any man that condemns his own country's women should be looked at damaged goods. If you hang around a 'natural' long enough you'll quickly notice that that motherfücker can get laid all the same from Sweden to Botswana, to Hawaii to Iceland. He just knows how to deal with women.

EXACTLY.


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For the most part I agree. If you go on youtube and watch the videos guys take in Thailand or the Phillipines, it is mainly older, overweight, very unattractive men who are walking around trying to get with the young females there. And most of the time when you see a guy with a mail order bride, most of the time he is what one would call below average on the looks scale. So yeah I can't argue there.

Now for the average to above average guys? I highly highly rec meeting foreign women who moved over here to N America. I prefer Asians but there are all kinds. Asians to me are just the nicest, best looking, and most into their men without going into b1tch mode all the time.
Don't get me wrong at all. I'm not hating on Asian chicks in the least. I was berserk for this one chick who was part Korean part Irish at my part time. Chick was hot as hell...She was born here though. So she'd be "hated" by the "real men". lmao
 

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You're confusing ones ability to get laid with having the balls to state the obvious. Nothing wrong with calling out obesity and bad behaviour. Nothing wrong with increasing the odds for finding femininity and traditional values by hunting in another country. Time is money to a lot of men.
Uh yea. Because the dudes I've seen in every video (that were all "3-4" decades ago old lol) looked like they scored tons of poon in the west..right..they just don't like "obesity and bad behavior" same as the abroad chicks who want to meet these winners don't like all their "mean men who drink all the time" and are looking for a "real man" to love forever. right.


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Of course they do.

I see this new generation of men disgusted with these chicks more like your Krausers, Roosh's, Roissy's and to a lesser degree your average in fairly good shape beta male. Maybe 3 or 4 decades ago they were all strictly the "creepy" greasy haired moustache twisters, but I'm not buying it now.

Maybe lamenting just how icky all these men looking for fairer snatch in other countries would be more suited to a jizzabel forum eh humble?

Nah I don't care what feminist chicks think They're just as retarded as those dudes who run overseas for a "wife". They look like what I'd picture Zarky to look like.
 

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I feel ya HN, and I've been crackin up at this thread the last few days. Never knew you had it in ya.

To make a Military analogy, since I was in the Military a ways back, just throwing it out there:
This is like some guy who can't handle it in the trenches, so instead, he goes and gets a comfy desk job back where there are no bullets flying at him. So be it, to each his own. BUT (and this is the part that bothers me)..... instead of supporting the guys out there in the trenches, he talks $hit about them, makes fun of them when they fvck up and get shot at.. All while sitting in that comfy desk picking his butt.

Just doesn't sit right with me.

Sits right with some people though. Guy leaves U.S., goes to communist China to live, marries girl there, takes in culture. Next thing you know, he's on the fasttrack: 11 Star(green dot) General. Quickest in SoSuave history. A Don Juan of epic proportions.

I would never have guessed it. What do you know.
 

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face it, for some guys this is as good as it gets


one time when i was at work, one of the janitors who was cleaning out the waste bins was telling me how here in america he is just a lowly janitor, but in the phillipines he had a young wife and a kid and a huge house that he could support with his wage, and every few months he would fly over there for a week or two and come back

this guy was exactly how you described, old and out of shape, but hey its the best he was able to do, and once ever few months he can go to his house and **** his wife and say hi to the kid
 

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Bullsh1t aside I'd put money on all the "lady killers" here spouting the same crap as humbleninja could not go out their front door this minute and find a hot Western chick who cooks and cleans with a smile, is submissive with genuine feminine grace and without the slightest hint of gender confusion in under a week. I bet you phoney fools wouldn't even know where to begin to look.

But keep parroting feminist boilerplate ;) "You're "creepy" for leaving the country....derrrrp"

Oh and this is coming from someone who's never left the country for the sole purpose of snatch btw, but can simply spot your half preening half indoctrinated sh!t talk.
 

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Bullsh1t aside I'd put money on all the "lady killers" here spouting the same crap as humbleninja could not go out their front door this minute and find a hot Western chick who cooks and cleans with a smile, is submissive with genuine feminine grace and without the slightest hint of gender confusion in under a week. I bet you phoney fools wouldn't even know where to begin to look.

But keep parroting feminist boilerplate ;) "You're "creepy" for leaving the country....derrrrp"

Oh and this is coming from someone who's never left the country for the sole purpose of snatch btw, but can simply spot your half preening half indoctrinated sh!t talk.

Dude I ain't looking for a housemaid. I can do my own sht better than some chick. If she can't do anything then fvck em.

Almost anyone who's halfway decent looking can talk etc. can meet chicks simply on a vacation visiting another country. But to run over there for "girlfriends" and "wives"? F that noise.

It's two completely different cultures, family traditions etc., culture shock, ways of life. Even humor. Something we find funny here. They DON'T. let alone language barriers etc.

You think feminists would have you by the balls? Try the "submissive" wife, her family, friends, the town etc. being stuck in their country doing it THEIR way. Fck that sht.

I've been to other countries and met HOT as FVCK chicks simply by BSing out at night. But I've been with family and close friends and people who live there living WITH them for short periods of time...and all the "niceness" is there...yet you WILL do things their way or you will HAVE to learn. You're American etc. BS would not fly at all. And the word spreads fast about the "amercian/western" bastard who wants things his way.

You don't think these western "men" embarrass the hell out of the west? They aren't bringing some "glory" elsewhere...they are needy dudes who want things their way...and those chicks their families and friends want things THEIR way or you're disrespecting their cultures. No wonder they consider most all western dudes looking for "brides" sex tourists. You do it their way. And live in prison in "paradise".

I'm sure all the "experts" Roosh etc. were all "welcomed with open arms by these princesses families who wanted such a great wise writer to be a part of their families" to do things NOT HIS way..but theirs.

They will nice you to death...but there's a price for it. Like it or not.
 

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HumbleNinja said:
Dude I ain't looking for a housemaid. I can do my own sht better than some chick. If she can't do anything then fvck em.
lulz yeah cause all those qualities I typed out are just so undesirable to the average hetero

hot chick who cooks and cleans with a smile, is submissive with genuine feminine grace and without the slightest hint of gender confusion
Oooooh YUCK !!! You really have been watching too much TV eh?

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I've been t oother countries and met HOT as FVCK chicks simply by BSing out at night.
Oh bullsh!t I have doubts you've gone anywhere and you most certainly have never known "HOT AS FVCK" chicks I bet.

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They will nice you to death...but there's a price for it. Like it or not.
:rolleyes: Spoken like a true chode who's never even known genuine femininity in his entire life.

Get the phuck outta here. You're full of crap.
 

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This. Agree completely. FYI Ninja and co I have a hot "western" gf, so my position isn't out of "bitterness" or "lack of game". Honestly, travelling to an area where the ratio of hot feminine women to fat testosterone fueled harpies is higher just seems like common sense to me...

And yet we have people on this board knocking what seems like a practical idea guaranteed to bring most men happiness. Very strange indeed.

You live in the U.K correct? Isn't that considered one of the "western" countries? You're dating a western chick. Not a "foreigner" so to speak. Did you travel to wherever in the west to meet her or simply on holiday? If so you didn't specifically go to find a girlfriend or a "wife" from abroad. You met her. Nothing wrong with that.

But here's what happens to most dudes from America, the U.K., Canada who go abroad to poorer countries SPECIFICALLY to meet chicks/wives.

They go there and admit they are looking for a girlfriend or wife and immediately become known by locals as a sex tourist and or a desperate MARK. (They aren't that dumb to simply buy the dude could get girls in his own country but "just doesn't want them". They know something is up Especially if the dude is on some "romance tour" and they take advantage of the stranger.)

Or they go there and not say a word as if they're on vacation just visiting and date/bang different chicks and have to leave and pay all over again to go back and forth just to bang hot chicks.

Or they move to the country and HAVE to learn EVERYTHING. Culture etc. under the chicks families and friends the towns close watch. Like living in "paradise" under house arrest having to learn everything all over. With the temptations of other hot chicks till the dude loses it.

Or they go there once or a few times to try and get the hottest chick to marry them and come back to the west (U.K., America, Canada) where the chick gets homesick, has to learn everything, can't do sht as her degrees etc are worthless but sit at home and watch T.V etc. till she learns enough and gets poisoned by the BS then sick of her husband, sees better younger much more well taken care of dudes and leaves him for papers, possible child support, and gets divorce easy after she becomes a citizen claiming "abuse" physical, mental etc. just for having to stay home like a "prisoner".
 

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i can understand both views.
what i can not understand why do we have to get all personal about it, and why some of you resort to shaming tactics? you should know that is the weapon of those who already lost the argument.

IMO it is true that western women in general are all stuck up facebook queens with overinflated egos thanks to all the losers drooling over any pic they upload, be it even the worst and ugliest kind.
also, while more traditionalist countries offer a greater palette of cooperative and quality women, the cultural differences are there, and more or less hard to adapt to for both sides.

also, IMO someone liking petite asians vs black women vs blondes etc, why should it matter for the rest? why are you shaming each other? you need some kind of validation for your taste? also if someone found happiness with a kind of woman, more power to them. why does it bother you?
 

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lulz yeah cause all those qualities I typed out are just so undesirable to the average hetero
You trying to say you are helpless without some chick to cook and clean for you? Do you simply eat fast food if no chick? Do you iron a dress shirt with a brick? Comb your hair with your pillow? Brush your teeth with a pack of firecrackers? A lot of dudes know how to do their own sht and not rely on a chick or momma. Doesn't mean a chick should sit on her azz and do nothing. Nor does it mean none of them know how to do anything but "take".

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Oooooh YUCK !!! You really have been watching too much TV eh?
I haven't watched T.V in a long time. Nothing good on.

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Oh bullsh!t I have doubts you've gone anywhere and you most certainly have never known "HOT AS FVCK" chicks I bet.
You are correct sir! I've NEVER went anywhere nor ever known let alone associated with any hot as fvck chicks. The tri-state area alone has none of those. LMAO.


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:rolleyes: Spoken like a true chode who's never even known genuine femininity in his entire life.
Nah. Never known that from any chick. lol. We should all hope for a submissive 10.5 slave who we determine every move she makes is "feminine" enough for our tastes with ZERO personal cost involved.

Get out of your basement.

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Get the phuck outta here. You're full of crap.
No. I'm a BETA and PROUD 44yo virgin. YOU GET THE PHUCK OUTTA HERE. Those foreign angels are waiting for a "real man" t1ts! Book that flight and never return! LMAO



Take a dude who's hated and doesn't/never wanted western chicks his whole life. Hell take ANY dude from ANYWHERE in the WORLD who hates and refuses to deal with his women from his area = a dude who has either ZERO experience or success with them.

Now were supposed to believe this same dude who can't/won't deal with any chicks in his home area will suddenly be the ultimate Don Juan with perfect 10.5's in a new culture, langauge etc. WITHOUT having to use his hated "western" card and western dollars paying for prosties let alone get USED for money etc by them knowing he "hates" all women from his home area?

Sorry but those types get exploited hard core and have to PAY for it and end up even MORE bitter crying over some skank they met on a tour in some bar/ massage joint they thought they could turn into a housewife in "paradise".

Those chicks overseas see those dudes coming and take them for what they've got. The saying is: No MONEY. No HONEY. (And you'd better believe if they find out you're in their country not on a vacation to simply visit but are looking for a wife/girlfriend they have shaming terms in their own languages for those dudes) So really...How much better off are they running off on God knows how many trips from the "greedy" western chicks?
 
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Dude, you are ranting about this like you discovered water is wet, or something.

Choades have done the mail order bride deal for decades and have been the butt of jokes the whole time. We know. What's the big ****ing deal?
 

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HumbleNinja said:
Or they go there and not say a word as if they're on vacation just visiting and date/bang different chicks and have to leave and pay all over again to go back and forth just to bang hot chicks.
I always thought this was a very dangerous game so I never would consider it. Sure, I could bang plenty of chicks in these foreign countries, but I don't think the local guys would be too happy with me. I would probably get jumped and beaten at or near the club for being a foreign guy pumping and dumping their women.

These are conservative, close-knit places where everbody knows everybody, and she has no shortage of white knights on her side.

Screw that.
 

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HumbleNinja said:
You trying to say you are helpless without some chick to cook and clean for you?
:rolleyes: Yeah that's what I'm trying to say. I'm "helpless" without traditional femininity? Using extremes to make a non point eh mate? Why not go the full feminist shaming 101 handbook and include my penis size and mothers basement?

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Nah. Never known that from any chick. lol. We should all hope for a submissive 10.5 slave
Slave? If cooking, nurturing children and being the glue that binds a family is 'slave-like'. Wtf were the millions of men dying in wars? dying of black lung and every other workplace haphazard to bring food and shelter to his family?

Pffft "slave". Nevermind the glaringly obvious fact women are statistically unhappier now than they ever were (strange behaviour for a freed "slave" eh?), lets just parrot more feminist boilerplate :crazy:

You sure you're not watching too much TV?

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You are correct sir! I've NEVER went anywhere nor ever known let alone associated with any hot as fvck chicks. The tri-state area alone has none of those. LMAO.
Seen? Sure. Banged? I doubt it. As the old adage goes " Game recognizes game", and you sir are looking like a foreigner to me.

blah blah blah more walls of text that could be fit for leftist academia bla bla
Do you really need to write reams full of text to make a point? Surely if you had a point that wasn't full of crap it wouldn't be needed.
 

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You guys are making it more complicated that it needs to be. Here are some simple, cold facts.

1) Non-western countries have a MUCH higher ratio of quality chicks. This is not even up for debate. Only someone who is a total idiot or has never traveled abroad would dispute this.

2) The vast majority of marriages and relationships between western men and foreign women do NOT work out.

How do you reconcile the two? It's a mix of factors. Cultural differences play a major role. But just as importantly, foreign women rapidly change for the worse once uprooted from their native environment and transplanted into a western country. In many ways, they become even worse than the local hos. Moral of the story: if you're going to marry a foreigner, you better move to her country and absorb yourself into her non-western culture. Bringing her to your home country is just a recipe for disaster.
 
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