Why all the complications? Getting laid is easy!

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Ever since I’ve been coming to this site, I’ve never understood why scoring with a chick and getting laid is made so complicated. We’re not talking seduction of a particular woman here, an elusive oneitis, nor are we talking about quality women with great personalities, intelligence and good conversation. We’re talking about finding a decent looking girl who is up for sex, period.

Why are there books, websites, DVDs and seminars dedicated to this and why do guys look at getting laid as a big deal? You hear guys go on about fvcking 10-100 women like it’s an achievement, and go on to divulge their “secrets” using this weird geek jargon: running patterns, openers, sets, wingmen, isolating, kino, standing on your head and chanting the Russian alphabet and whatever. What they don’t seem to understand is that any average Joe can and does get laid on any night of the week without all this complicated pseudo-scientific nonsense. The fact is, the most promiscuous men in the world have never read a seduction book or visited a PUA site in their life, and I doubt any of them know what “running a pattern” even means.

Ok then, put all that geek jargon and keyboard jockey theory aside. I’m going to tell you the easiest way to get laid in just 10 steps:


1. You’re going to be judged on your appearance so get clean, dress up nice and spend time to look your best.
2. Go and visit a club. You will increase your chances by aiming for the lower end clubs with less male competition.
3. Look around for any women you would consider a good lay and try to make eye contact. If eye contact is returned in a positive way, make a mental note of her.
4. Continue scouting until a bit later in the night when everyone has had a few drinks and let their guards down.
5. Hopefully you’ll have a few prospects now, so when you see any of these women on the dancefloor, go and dance in front of them, making eye contact as you do.
6. If she continues dancing with you, wait for a song or two to pass and try making physical contact as you dance – place your hands lightly on her waist, or dance up real close to her. She’ll most likely encourage it or grind on you if she’s interested.
7. Go and sit down with her somewhere, introduce yourself, ask about her. You can put your arm round her, rest your hand on her leg or alike.
8. Go for the kiss.
9. Providing she responds well, continue what you’re doing – dancing, drinking, making out.
10. At the end of the night, bring up the subject of her getting home and invite her to your place. If she accepts, you’re getting laid.


To say this is field tested would be an understatement. This is the basic mating ritual of clubs that males and females come to learn and recognise through real life experience as early as their teens. It’s the sort of thing any regular clubber knows, and as a guy looking to get laid, all you have to do is engage a woman in that ritual. When she ackowledges your signals (eye contact or dancing with her) she is not only approving you, she is letting you know that she’s aware of the ritual and knows what moves to make. It’s plain sailing from there. Providing you’re average looking or above and don’t scare her off by being unnaturally pathetic or creepy you should see some success. It is a numbers game where your looks and your standards decide your odds - though I’ve seen ugly guys being successful with attractive women and good looking guys taking home fat chicks. Of course, you’ll get rejected, ignored or shrugged off, but if that happens, move to the next.

If you just want to get laid, forget the malls and streets and number closing. Even if successful there you still have to call, make a date then go through that process. Unlike streets and malls etc, more women in clubs are open to being approached and ready for action that very night.

Personally, I want more than to get laid and have particularly high standards, but my judgement is irrelevant. I’m just sharing a simple process as it’s done in the real world. I tried this out last night just to demonstrate to my friends, so I’ll add a field report to this thread later today.
 

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It's the difference between
walking off a 4 meter cliff and then notice that it wasn't a good idea
and
calculating the impact you take when you hit the ground and then comparing it with the amount of impact you can take and then decide it isn't a good idea.

Now on this subject (flowing women) the first one might be a better idea since you will know what'll work way faster. Some people (including myself sometimes) don't use that because they have too much pride in it and go for the second method most of the time. This is indeed stupid cause it won't get you that far most of the time. Just be aware of this and put that pride away and put it somewhere else for some time.
 

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Thankyou for the tip, but if everyone wanted easy women this message board wouldn't exist. Drunk girls are easy, slu-tty girls, and slu-tty girls, anyone can bang.
 

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for easy ass, this is definately one way to do it.

ive worked in the bar industry for years... right now im bouncing at a hot bar. lots of gorgeous women, booty-music and alcohol. these kind of hookups happen every night. its always funny to watch after last call, when its time for everyone to go, because thats when all the guys and girls get together and figure out whos fvcking who.

on a side note, Jariels method is even easier for the bar staff. all us bouncers do is give eye contact, maybe a word or two... and by the end of the night, drunk girls are literally giving their bodies up for the choosing.

good times.

-SLB
 

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Getting laid is easy...sometimes. What we're trying to do HERE is learn how to make those times more often, and of more quality.

Jariel, honestly I think you're too close minded and preach far too much be yourself posts.

You're actually completely correct when you say, 'be yourself' but if who you are isn't getting you what you want, then you have to change who you are.

How do you change who you are?

Thoughts of what you want turn into..
Actions where you learn and develop...
Beliefs of the world that are stronger than before and turn into your....

Identity.


That is why 'just be yourself' is CORRECT, but you have to learn how to be the person you want to be.

Guys, take a look at yourselves.

Who is the person you want to be, and what is stopping you from getting there?



animal crackers
 

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Atleast 80% of the men that come to this site were at one time a "good guy" and didn't believe in giving women alcohol to get in their pants. It just went against our morals. It also goes against our morals to go for the easy girls. Come on, we all know how to get the easy girl. It just goes against our morals and our values. It goes against our pride. We want the challenge that we were never able to hook up with because we didn't understand how she was thinking.

None the less, this site isn't just about getting laid. Some parts of this site is actually just a guide to help men find themselves and stop being so insecure. With the goal of women in mind. Parts of this site offers tips to those of us who are in relationships and don't want it to go sour. Parts of this site is how to turn a casual date into a relationship. In fact, I'd have to say only 20% of this site is actually about getting laid.
 

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You're actually completely correct when you say, 'be yourself' but if who you are isn't getting you what you want, then you have to change who you are.
I completely agree with you! I'm all for change and self improvement (mental and physical) to the point where you are getting success and - above all - you are happy with yourself.

However, I admit I am very preachy about being natural and not trying to hide or disguise yourself for the sake of women.


As for this tip. It's not going to get you great quality women who are worth dating or settling down with, but neither are many of the tips given by the seduction community. And from the impression I get, there are a lot of guys here trying Gunwitch and similar methods, who don't care as long as they're getting laid.
 

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Originally posted by animal crackers
Getting laid is easy...sometimes. What we're trying to do HERE is learn how to make those times more often, and of more quality.

Jariel, honestly I think you're too close minded and preach far too much be yourself posts.

You're actually completely correct when you say, 'be yourself' but if who you are isn't getting you what you want, then you have to change who you are.

How do you change who you are?

Thoughts of what you want turn into..
Actions where you learn and develop...
Beliefs of the world that are stronger than before and turn into your....

Identity.

That is why 'just be yourself' is CORRECT, but you have to learn how to be the person you want to be.

Guys, take a look at yourselves. Who is the person you want to be, and what is stopping you from getting there?

animal crackers
I second that!
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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IMO ...

Something I got from one of my professors: Those who can't think ... plan.

This stuff is so complex because it's rigid and inflexible; it's a program to be executed that can't adapt to changing situations or different types of women, so it has to be complex enough to handle any situation with any woman.

It persists for several reasons. First, it speaks the language of the guys who use it, an intellectual process instead of an emotional and physical one. Second, it's a crutch to help these guys avoid their crippling emotional problems and stunted social development - they have no fvcking clue how to be men or how to socialize with other men and be sexual with women.

Finally, though we think of all this as a means to get past womens' sexual hang-ups, it's really a means to get past our own sexual hang-ups - a way to excuse on practical grounds behaviors that we judge to be not only ridiculously out-of-character but also socially unacceptable and morally wrong.
 

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Wow.... good post Visceral. What we strive to do on this board is to create a "program," as he calls it, which will yield the absolute highest success rate. The theories, while they look perfect on paper, may not work in every single case, but it's a numbers game and we do much better than if we didn't try any of it. It's almost as if you go in a complete circle and get nowhere when you resort to changing your methods for particular women, but if you think about it, the base of the program, the basic algorithm, remains the same, you just change a couple things to keep it running smoothly in different conditions. For instance, you know to increase coc-kiness when the hotness of the woman increases. Sometimes this doesn't work, so you simply take the input they give you and slightly modify what you're doing. Being a solid DJ with uncompromising methods will get you far, but knowing how to deal with every customer in a unique way will get you farther. For the average joe, getting a 10 is definitely not easy. Anyone can bang a sl-ut, but why would you really want to? Everyone wants the 10's, and that is what this message board is for, to give the average guy the skills he needs.... or at least a guide to get the skills in real world experience. If you don't have really good looks, don't have amazing social status, and don't want to resort to banging ho-es, there is no other way but using your brain, getting your balls together, and getting some experience.
 

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Yer right. It's not that hard to hook up. Anyone who showers daily and wears clean clothes who's willing to be persistant in the right environment will almost invariably eventually stumble into a ONS here and there.

That's not why I'm here. I'm here because I want to be better, I want to become the man i know I can be if I push it. I'm here because I want a flock of HB8 to 10's to fall hopelessly for me, at which point I'll scoop up the pick of the litter and make her mine (if she's good). I'm a long way from that day, but there're a hell of a lot of tools here to help me along, the greatest of which (IMO) being the posts that made me get off my ass and get to sarging.
 

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All depends on what you want. Yes it is easy to take a hammered lush home and nail her brains out (god knows) and its even easier to go home and beat your meat. To me screwing drunk broads is pointless and some what replusive,(the smell of alcohol comming out of someone's sweaty pores is nasty,) and when I use to indulge in it I really got nothing out of it, just a nut. We each have our own taste and like what we like, so I would not entirely knock someone's tip,(unless its just bragging and or *****ing, which seems to happen too often on the boards these days.) It up to you to read between the lines, use common sense, and do what you wanna do,

apples and oranges.
 

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We each have our own taste and like what we like, so I would not entirely knock someone's tip,
Feel free to knock it! Sure it works, but I would never resort to this pathetic sh1t myself. I just wrote it for everyone who comes here looking for a short cut to get laid or as an alternative to the more complicated (but just as desperate) tactics promoted by the seduction community.

It's inspiring to read that you guys all have higher standards and ambitions than this. Keep improving and aiming high and the pay off will be worth it!
 

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Alcohol coming out of sweaty pores, haha, never really noticed, but then again, I confess I have never banged a drunken bi-tch. Does the pus-sy emit an alcoholic odor as well? hehe. Unfortunately, the best places to hook up with girls are at places where they party, and that is no coincidence. I think there are a good number of "normal" girls who go to parties and clubs just to find guys, so I will not completely go against those places.... in fact I'm about to get into the scene a little more.
 

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Originally posted by Jariel
Ever since I’ve been coming to this site, I’ve never understood why scoring with a chick and getting laid is made so complicated. We’re not talking seduction of a particular woman here, an elusive oneitis, nor are we talking about quality women with great personalities, intelligence and good conversation. We’re talking about finding a decent looking girl who is up for sex, period.

Why are there books, websites, DVDs and seminars dedicated to this and why do guys look at getting laid as a big deal? You hear guys go on about fvcking 10-100 women like it’s an achievement, and go on to divulge their “secrets” using this weird geek jargon: running patterns, openers, sets, wingmen, isolating, kino, standing on your head and chanting the Russian alphabet and whatever. What they don’t seem to understand is that any average Joe can and does get laid on any night of the week without all this complicated pseudo-scientific nonsense. The fact is, the most promiscuous men in the world have never read a seduction book or visited a PUA site in their life, and I doubt any of them know what “running a pattern” even means.

Ok then, put all that geek jargon and keyboard jockey theory aside. I’m going to tell you the easiest way to get laid in just 10 steps:


1. You’re going to be judged on your appearance so get clean, dress up nice and spend time to look your best.
2. Go and visit a club. You will increase your chances by aiming for the lower end clubs with less male competition.
3. Look around for any women you would consider a good lay and try to make eye contact. If eye contact is returned in a positive way, make a mental note of her.
4. Continue scouting until a bit later in the night when everyone has had a few drinks and let their guards down.
5. Hopefully you’ll have a few prospects now, so when you see any of these women on the dancefloor, go and dance in front of them, making eye contact as you do.
6. If she continues dancing with you, wait for a song or two to pass and try making physical contact as you dance – place your hands lightly on her waist, or dance up real close to her. She’ll most likely encourage it or grind on you if she’s interested.
7. Go and sit down with her somewhere, introduce yourself, ask about her. You can put your arm round her, rest your hand on her leg or alike.
8. Go for the kiss.
9. Providing she responds well, continue what you’re doing – dancing, drinking, making out.
10. At the end of the night, bring up the subject of her getting home and invite her to your place. If she accepts, you’re getting laid.
I agree with you somewhat about how it's overcomplicated by many people who like to make up jargon for things that are normal.... many of them so they can make money.

But your club routine thing just doesn't happen in real life. There's all kinds of extra crap and variables.......for example, girl sdon't go alone to clubs, so you have to deal with their freinds ****blocking you, you have to deal with other guys, basically al ot of stuff.

You may be a natural or a good looking guy ... these kinds of people also have difficulty understanding why people make things that are simple to them complicated. This isn't just here, you see this in sports, school, everything.

Also, a big reason people come here is to better themselves .... not just get laid. Me, like others, want to improve ourselves, so that way getting girls is a byproduct. When you become more confident, understand the game, you'll be attracting people (including girls) to you at all times. You'll be able to meet women everywhere... you'll have the ability to keep girls past that one drunken night. You'll have options all the time, not just when you go into that dark club on sat. night and find a girl to pump and dump.
 

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Looking back from my few months at this site, I relised all I needed was a testosterone injection.

Before visiting this site, I was an android, & only occasionally got girls. Increase in testosterone gave me a boost in confidence, & that was all I really needed, I already had the ability. I believe the testosterone also gave me help in other areas of life.

After getting numurous girls, I relized it didn't make me more forfilled or a social god. I still have a long way to go in my quest for self-improvement, highschool is just about over & have the rest of my life aheadf of me, I'm scared & excited.

I'm on the right track.

Cheers to whoever made this site. :flowers:
 
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