Hey, some excellent points have been raised here, now im going to tell you my story.
I started lurking around here ages ago about 5/6 years ago to be precise, for 3 reasons i wasn't a virgin, i had limited experience of french kissing, a little groping then i had sex at 14 when i was drunk, with a fat ass ugly chick, yes that made me feel brilliant at the time, i had lost my virginity, i thought id become a man, i could now give advice on sex.
How wrong was i? very, i had absolutley no clues whatsover, how to approach, how to engage them in conversation,how to keep them interested but most importantly how to feel confident around them.
The reason though, the main one i had- the one that brought me here was i was deep in the friendzone, obviously i didnt know it at the time, but i had fallen for my friend. I thought i had a chance, but i was wrong. So wrong. She saw me as a brother figure.
so one day i googled something along the lines of "how to get her to like me" and then "how to seduce her." and so i found this site.
i must have read every article, searched the whole forums, even went out and bought art of war and 48 laws of power read them twice. just reading those i became well equipped. but i didnt stop there, i found this:
http://www.sosuave.com/halloffame/hall188.htm
This may have changed me life.
I did this, i started windsurfing, started running, started lifting weights, that girl couldnt get hold of me, i started talking to more girls without even realising, i was turing into a don without realising, i was playing soccer 3x a week, i was looking better, feeling better and feeling happier.
i made sure i constantly did stuff, then one day something amazing happend, must have been at school, my mobile phone kept going off, girls kept texting me, girls i was talking to at school and exchaning numbers with without even knowing it, i had become popular in 3 months.
needless to say, i had numerous dates and making out and evetually got laid again, this site had helped me immensley.
since then i had racked up around 20 lays i didnt need the site any more i thought i had become a don.
and then disater struck. i got into a ltr.
Now in those days, the advice on this site was sound, by what seemed like real dons, like swigue, like Sociopath, like Pook, and the advice worked, and i was in my relationship for 3 years.
then eventually we outgrew each other and split up, and i had lost my mojo for a bit, and now i wasnt at school anymore, it's a completely different ball game.
I had to come back, and the advice given now, from 5 years ago is so in the nicest possible way "CRAP". virgins are giving advice on relationships, on anything, when the whole point of me coming to this site was to get more skills with women, and subsequntly get laid.
Now there are people who have never so much as spoken to a girl, giving advice. and the fact that i was given advice by these good guys at such a young age, that isnt as relevant now, its just confusing.
i dont know what this site is for, maybe i was just young and naiive back then and swallowed it all up thinking it would work, and it did to some extent, but its only got me so far, and coupled with the books ive read,movies ive seen my head is just full of ****.
and what gets me is that theres Seniors and Masters here with 800+ posts, get a ****ing life. go out and get laid, get hobbies, try talking to people rather than typing to them, get off myspace get off msn get off AIM.
this site isnt what it was, its full of wanabees and people pretending to be something there not.
Yes this site has helpd me, but im parting company from it now, and my come back one day, but for you guys who are staying, take every new bit of advice with a pinch of salt, or better still read the old stuff, and dont come back for a while.
). We split up when we got there and basically did our own thing, I was makin a move with a blonde and he was after some redhead he'd met before...Anyways, I ended up hooking up wit a different blonde(the one i was going after decided to drink too much).