Who is the best pickup artist alive?

[gimmeyofonenumba]

pickup artists are losers. Don Juan's are the winners a true success in all parts of his well balanced life. I've gone out and got many phone numbers from many hot chicks, all in the same night. It doesnt MEAN SH1T. Id still rather have other things in my life than p/up a hot chick.Its all a numbers game. If anyone is better than anyone, its the guy who THINKS he is the best. Therefore projects alot of confidence, and will harvest more positives from approaches. Other than that we are all the same the only difference between who is "the best" is who is the one with the most well balanced, and improved life. We can all get phone numbers. Picking up isnt that hard part, its the later stuff.

A matter a fact i think anyone who thinks picking up hot chicks is a measure of success is a complete idiot. Your judging sucess on some b1tch's artificial mascara enhanced appearnce. Its just an appearance who gives a fvck.

Other than that ill agree with the guy who made the point about having a family.

 

[stayfly]

my vote goes to Mystery

he has that vibe about him and his backstory backs it all up

 

[gimmeyofonenumba]

my vote goes to Mystery

he has that vibe about him and his backstory backs it all up

what is his backstory? i really dont know much about the guy. I watched his show. I think that makeup kiss he puts on his neck is retarded. He goes far out of his way to change his appearaance beg for attention.

 

[BuckwildNYC]

Derek Jeter..............no contest

He banged Jessica Alba, Scarlett Johannsen, Vida Guerra, Vanessa Minillo and God knows how many more. I think Mariah Carey too. And don't say cause he's a professional athlete cause there are tons of pro athletes who have ugly wives.........

 

[stayfly]

what is his backstory? i really dont know much about the guy. I watched his show. I think that makeup kiss he puts on his neck is retarded. He goes far out of his way to change his appearaance beg for attention.

his backstory is that he basically was a typical AFC in high school and then he decided to get good with women and he would basically go into the field everyday trying things out until he understood the game and developed the system he teaches today. he basically figured all this shyt out for himself by himself and developed it to the point where almost anyone can apply his teachings and be successful with women.

in terms of he appearance, that's mainly just to stand out, get attention and to start conversations. he doesn't need all that but he believes it increases his chances so why not?

 

[jonwon]

Any guy who can score alot of women soon gets bored of the pus**

To you guys who cant apprecciate this has you revolve your life around finding any piece of ass you can.

Well when you can go out and pull alot, date multipule girls, which i currently do.

The puss* looses its luster.

think about it:

If you had a steak sarnie and you loved steak like no other food, but this steak sarnie is all you eat day after day, eventually you will get bored of the steak sanrie and want a break.

If women walked around naked and offered sex to anyone who asked, eventually you would get bored has the novelty just wore off.

Now you think its so important has you cant get it, but once you can get it, you get tired of it has the luster fades and what is left is sticking your dic* inside a wet hole, granted with different shapes and faces.

But most of you AFC' chumps wont apprecciate this, you probably think i am mad since puss8 is so ingrained inside of you, its like waving a gold watch to a begger, he is going to crave it so much but if you give him that watch whilst he was surrounded by them daily, he would probably think 'how boring'.

Even if you get good at picking up women eventually the steak sarnie syndrome will kick in if you like it or not, you will think:

"wow i can have sex when i want it, with random girls, but you know i cant be fuc*ed with that, its getting boring"

But most of you wont even think this, you wont ever get to that stage and you keep puss* has the life goal of your life, when in fact puss* gets boring when you can access it, pritty reasonably.

Who am I?

well i have fuc*ed over 160+ women in my life and counting, players dont give out numbers i say why not?

I had sex with 3 different girls last weekend, 3 difference girls.

how many of you chumps can do that?

Uh?

After the 3rd girl i just wanted some space, my own space without worrying about pleasing puss*.

chilling watching tv, anything then have to stick it in another wet hole.

Yeh its all great when you get it once a month, but when you have access to it alot trust me the role is reveresed.

hence Pick up artists on TV, e.t.c if they where truly getting laid, they would not put that much effort in, any man will get bored with the same thing over and over again, unless they are not getting it.

Its like hunting in a way.

If you go out hunting every day and dont score a kill, your going to try harder the hungrier you get.

On the other hand if you went out hunting and the game simply strayed to your bullets and you scored alot, you would eventually loose interest with the novalty and go out hunting only when you got the urge to do it, nothing more nothing less.

the best PUA are in FACT:

The guys who score puss* when and where ever they see fit to a large %

not some jock spitting out game in a club.

There are guys looking on this joc* thinking 'try' hard, why does he chase puss* so much it is not that hard to get.

Those are the best PUA as they are not slaves to puss*, they control the GAME the GAME does not control THEM.

 

[ER!C L!VE]

Any guy who can score alot of women soon gets bored of the pus**

I thought the same thing at one time.

I have a 39yo buddy who still gets laid nearly once a week by a new girl. This last Sunday he banged 3 different girls and went on a date with a 4th girl, but didn't feel like boning her. He could have, but was just too tired. I've known him for 7 years and he's been like this ever since we met.

I get bored of sex, but he doesn't. I asked him about it and he said that he just loves sex. His parents think he's a sex addict, but he and I have gone over the symptoms of sex addiction and he's not.

Everyone's sex drive is different *shrug*.

 

[jonwon]

I thought the same thing at one time.

I have a 39yo buddy who still gets laid nearly once a week by a new girl. This last Sunday he banged 3 different girls and went on a date with a 4th girl, but didn't feel like boning her. He could have, but was just too tired. I've known him for 7 years and he's been like this ever since we met.

I get bored of sex, but he doesn't. I asked him about it and he said that he just loves sex. His parents think he's a sex addict, but he and I have gone over the symptoms of sex addiction and he's not.

Everyone's sex drive is different *shrug*.

i think this is an important statement;

No point becoming a player or PUA e.t.c if you dont have the sex drive, if thats the case, your not pleasing yourself your pleasing something else.

Probably mates, peer group pressure, social expectations.

Some men have low sex drives, some men have insane sex drives.

i dont normally think most PU have high sex drives though.

I think persoannly.

Mystery is in it for the money and has spun himself this web and now he is trapped by it, so a great PUA, naa maybe one time till money became the main theme.

Anyway most PU, do it to please others, to gain approaval from mates, to state i am the 'man' even if they dont really want to fuc8 random women.

That is the trap of the PUA game, its made glamourous, when in fact it looses its shine when its easily obtainable to a certain degree unless ofc you went in it for sex and has much sex has possible, then hey go for it, what ever floats your boat.

But i see the majourity are not in it for sex, they are in it for the success 'badge' and approval, which is fleeting.

And the ones on TV are by default not the best PUA imo since they are now focused on money and that is the Driving force not women or se*, which means they are 'trapped' in that cycle and do it, much like preforming monkeys putting on an act, not for sex, they do it since they are 'trapped' in that cycle due to there own choosing.

I state the best PUA are examples of your mate, high sex drive, random women, never gets bored, hey he was born for this and thats the guys who are the best, imo anyway not some Playa gaining funds for his exploits.

 

[Slick101]

I think Neil Strauss Is Garbage ...

Iv'e never seen his approaches... is there anywhere I can watch him.... ANYWHERE?

 

[Ever onward]

The best PUA is whoever:

- Found his ideal girl,
- He madly fell in love with her and she with him,
- Had children,
- Are living happily as a family in good health, financially secure...
- And still having lots of spontanous, loving, kinky sex together.

Let's see what the purist DJs make of that.

Um no. That's your definition of a good PUA. That doesn't even sound close to what I want. Married? BAH

 

[Derek Flint]

Mystery is more hype than he is a PUA

Read Style's book. Mystery is not someone you want to emulate.

Not to mention, most of his system is an illusion and does not change the person internally.

Again, read Style's book. Mystery has many, many self-esteem issues and his system is designed to create false value thru lies, trickery, false perception, etc...

Not that there isn't any value in some of the advice he gives, but most of it is based on misrepresentation.

False time contraints, asking girls their opinions on a question that is made up and that you don't care what their opinion is on the question, advising guys to lie to women to raise your value or to lower the womans value, even adving guys to tell women that you are gay.

How do you expect to create Attraction, Rapport, Comfort etc...when your whole interaction is one big lie?

Personally, I like Mystery. I've met him, talked game with him and think he is a cool guy. But he has such low self esteem that he resorts to tricks and lies to get laid. The ironic part is that he doesn't have to do all these things anymore to get laid, but internally, in his own mind, he is still the D&D playing geek with no social skills.

His tricks and tactics have gotten him laid, but they also slowed down his growing and maturing process.

MM works well on young, LSE women who are not the smartest girls in the world, but let's see him outside the club environment, one that's populated with drunken, AW, party girls.

These type of girls pretty much hook up with a different guy every weekend. It's no great feat to be one of the many guys that they hook up with.

Let's see how well MM works on mature, intellegent, sober women who have a lot going for them.

Women who can see thru all the BS that is MM

Picking up drunk party girls at a club is easy. Picking up high quality, intellegent women with more going for them than just their looks isn't.

Also, Mystery can get girls, LSE girls like Strippers and party girls but he has trouble keeping them.

Why? Because even they, once they see past the tricks and games, see the real Mystery and move on to someone of more substance.

Not someone who uses tricks and lies and manipulation to meet women as opposed to someone who seduces women based on who they are internally, not who they are externally.

See my sig below for a simple explanation.

Again, I personally like Mystery, but I dislike his tactics because they will actually prevent people from growing and progressing as not just DJ's or PU's, but as people.

I've been in "the community" for over 10 years and have seen it all pretty much, and I can tell you that shortcuts like MM are similar to cheating on a test: You pass the test, but did you learn and master the subject?

No, you didn't, unless the subject was picking up liquored up, LSE party girls who hook up with random guys on a weekly basis.
When our Teachers used to tell us that when you cheat, you only cheat yourself and we all laughed inside and thought "yeah, whatever" but years later, we realize that they were right.

Using MM is just cheating yourself. You may get results, but you are also cheating yourself from growing and progressing as a Man.

I have Mystery's new book as well as some of his other material, so I'm not just blindly or ignorantly spewing some crap I know nothing about.

I'm quite familiar with MM and the M3 model and I can tell you that using MM will result in stunting your progress.

It may get you quick, short-term results but it is not the answer and in the long-run, you are cheating yourself.

I'm sure some of the Mystery fan boys will chime in with: "Yeah, well he gets laid more than you do"

It's not about who gets laid the most.
That does not validate or define one's worth.

I'm sure Mystery gets laid a lot more than I do, and by better looking women.

Of course, if I spent 15 years of going out in the field 4 nights a week, I could too as could pretty much anyone else here.

The question shouldn't be "who is the best PUA?" - that's not and never was the purpose of this web site and forum.

Anyone here know or remember what it was and what it should be? It was about being a "DJ" and not a "PUA" or getting validation from women by having sex with them.

Does anyone know the difference between a PUA and a DJ?

Again, see my sig below for a hint:

 

[lildevil]

best pua is someone who doesn't need to pick up girls....cuz his charisma his masculinity the way his brimmin confidence and the aura like prescence that he has is just enough for a women to go ****ing wild....

His personality and his way he goes through life is at balance ...on both sides meaning he is not a one sided human bein....

he is the one that loves women but doesn't need women to show his a man...

Guys want to be like him and women want to be with him

He doesn't need a scheme or a plan...because he is human and a man....and knows how to play his role in life....

 

[strong like bull]

id have to agree with derek flint. see the quotes of blitz44xx's writing in my sig. it just seems like a lot of guys have it backwards. as if saying x, y, z to a girl and then doing a, b, c will result in successful completion of attracting women. but like dflint said, attraction is natural and comes from within. focus on yourself, not girls. make yourself excellent and have passion for life. build confidence from INSIDE... then it will be genuine.

those illegitimate stories people read online or get taught by a pua and then regurgitate to impress girls... when youre at least TRYING to live life to the fullest and doing the fun things youve always wanted to do, stories will come naturally. your OWN stories that took place in YOUR life. part of being a man is that as you go through life, you go through crazy, wild, trying, hard, and fun times. the idea being that as by the time youre an old, experienced MAN, you have countless exciting stories to pass down to your sons, daughters and grandchildren.

being a "DJ" is so much more than getting laid. women are the icing on the cake. they're the fun things you enjoy in between real concerns like your career and hobbies. and maybe down the road after enjoying your single life, you partner up with a good woman and look to start to plan for building your family.

like others have noted, you know youre on the right track when getting pvssy is the LEAST of your challenges. it really doesnt take much to get laid. being successful at life, on the other hand...

-SLB