Who here is a Bad Boy?

[zekko]

So who here is a bad boy? Could you tell us what makes you a bad boy, how it is you became that way and why, and does being a bad boy really make the women wet for you? Any advice you could give or is there anything you want us to know? Any disadvantages to being the bad boy?

I'm not asking for people who have read the Book of Pook and turned themselves into a bad boy, or for someone who is nice but mimics the confidence and aggression of a bad boy. I'm asking for the genuine article. Maybe a real bad boy would have no need to be on this forum in the first place?

We hear so much on here about the mythical bad boy, but I have to admit I seldom see them in the adult world. They were fairly common in high school I guess, but once people mature and have a need to support themselves they're probably rarer. I suppose the world beats it out of them.

 

[moneyisking]

Well, I am a bad fvck in some occasions but a kind person in other aspects. I used to be a super wuss b/4 entering seduction (which I have left for natural path). Once often I was treated like sh1t by some employees and some girls and I didn't confront it. I just took the sh1t, how pathetic and AFC. I had a friend though. He is one of real men that I know, and one day I went to school clinic with him. The nurse basically told me off denying service b/c it was lunch time and I just said okay and didn't confront them about it. On the way out, my friend told me "you know, there's a line as far as I can stand up for you." Then I realized... "god dam, you got to stand up and confront people when you need to." In other words, you got to be an a$$hole when you need to be. I think it's all about balance. I tried being a jerk a-hole all the time, and who knows why, never got me laid. I think girls like men who are not AFC, but fun, flirting, and make her feel good. But he also got to be a d!ck when he needs to. I mug at people when they mug me. I cus people out and tell em' wtf is the problem if they really give me problem, but other then that, I say just be an a$$hole when you need to.

 

[Allurre]

I'm a good guy. I was raised not to be a "bad boy" because 'bad' has negative connotations.

Na, seriously.

The secret to winning the hearts of people is being not a bad or good buy... but being a GREAT GUY - Charismatic, considerate, selfless, disciplined, ambitious... a HERO.

 

[Warrior74]

real grown up bad boys are Hell's Angels and gangbangers. Thieves, murders, psychopaths, soldiers, special forces, **** Chaney, assassins, fighters, and drug dealers. Everyone else is just a normal guy.

A Hell's Angel is not gonna be on here telling you how he met some college girl, took her for a ride on his hog, got her coked up and all his buddies did a gangbang on her...this place is just to work on yourself.

*edit* I can't type D1ck Chaney? What the ****? This place is so god damn Mickey Mouse.

 

[scrouds]

Does road rage count?

 

[Tictac]

'Allurre' has it right. The 'great guy' or 'good man' (as I like to think of it) is the way to go. I borrowed the below from David Shade. Where you want to go is being:

* masculine without being macho.
* dominant without being domineering.
* exciting without being reckless.
* mysterious without being deceiving.
* considerate without being placating.
* strong yet gentle.
* forthright and trustworthy.
* sexually exciting in the bedroom and a gentleman in the living room.
* a man in every respect.

A tough balance to be sure. But much worth the effort.

Being a badazz can be fun. But you end up with low quality women with self-esteem issues.

Peace & strength,
Tictac

 

[Duffdog]

bad boys don't do the internet, or dating sites. They are too busy fvcking the girlfriends of normal guys.

 

[zekko]

bad boys don't do the internet, or dating sites. They are too busy fvcking the girlfriends of normal guys.

I'm not really surprised no real bad boys have come forward. As you say, they are likely not the type to come on an internet dating site. The reason I asked in the first place is I'm wondering if these so called "bad boys" are really just mythical creatures to a large extent.

I mean I know younger girls especially might be attracted to a troubled guy/rebel type. But I'm not sure that their attraction hasn't been exaggerated to some degree by the people selling seduction material. Those sites tend to aim at wusses, and of course a guy is going to rather be a tough badazz than a wuss.

Once you get into the adult world though, I really think these bad boy types need to start conforming to society a little more or they're not going to be able to make a good income, and they end up with low quality chicks, like Tictac says.

 

[ima str8 up pimp]

real grown up bad boys are Hell's Angels and gangbangers. Thieves, murders, psychopaths, soldiers, special forces, **** Chaney, assassins, fighters, and drug dealers. Everyone else is just a normal guy.

A Hell's Angel is not gonna be on here telling you how he met some college girl, took her for a ride on his hog, got her coked up and all his buddies did a gangbang on her...this place is just to work on yourself.

*edit* I can't type D1ck Chaney? What the ****? This place is so god damn Mickey Mouse.

Chuch. I'm a bad boy because I fvck with b!tches I don't really love or care for, when a b!tch is fvckin' with me she's got to give it up before I say I love her and that's just because of the fact she fvcked me. I'm not sympathetic for any man or woman and I curse, not politically correct yet it's sh!t you see successful politicians doing. I make a b!tch chase me, set her pace of reality, and I wreck my haters I don't try and understand them. Chuch.

Jorge Gonzalez

 

[Tictac]

I mean I know younger girls especially might be attracted to a troubled guy/rebel type. But I'm not sure that their attraction hasn't been exaggerated to some degree by the people selling seduction material. Those sites tend to aim at wusses, and of course a guy is going to rather be a tough badazz than a wuss.

Once you get into the adult world though, I really think these bad boy types need to start conforming to society a little more or they're not going to be able to make a good income, and they end up with low quality chicks, like Tictac says.

Zekko,

You'd be stunned at the numbers of women in their 30s, 40s and 50s that do the badboy thing. And at how many loser (badboy) guys are out there to hit on them. Income doesn't matter when a woman wants to take that ride.

They just want what appears to be a thrill ride on the wild side. What they get is some loser who can't hold a job but can trash talk them out of their panties. A bad ending is usually the result. But by then the s'posed to be 'bad boy' is riding off on his Harley with the next piece of trash.

Of course, some here will think that's fine. I'd rather be a real man, seek quality women and have some standards. Its treated me okay with some big bumps along the way. But hey, that's life.

For the record, I was Special Forces (Navy) in my youth. How Warrior74 compares soldiers to "gangbangers, thieves, murders, psychopaths, soldiers, special forces, **** Chaney, assassins, fighters, and drug dealers" is completely bogus. Soldiers are among the most disciplined people you will ever meet and have senses of duty and honor you cannot undersand unless you've done it.

Tictac

 

[Warrior74]

Zekko,

You'd be stunned at the numbers of women in their 30s, 40s and 50s that do the badboy thing. And at how many loser (badboy) guys are out there to hit on them. Income doesn't matter when a woman wants to take that ride.

They just want what appears to be a thrill ride on the wild side. What they get is some loser who can't hold a job but can trash talk them out of their panties. A bad ending is usually the result. But by then the s'posed to be 'bad boy' is riding off on his Harley with the next piece of trash.

Of course, some here will think that's fine. I'd rather be a real man, seek quality women and have some standards. Its treated me okay with some big bumps along the way. But hey, that's life.

For the record, I was Special Forces (Navy) in my youth. How Warrior74 compares soldiers to "gangbangers, thieves, murders, psychopaths, soldiers, special forces, **** Chaney, assassins, fighters, and drug dealers" is completely bogus. Soldiers are among the most disciplined people you will ever meet and have senses of duty and honor you cannot undersand unless you've done it.

Tictac

Yah. get those panties in a bunch. You know what I meant. Look a little deeper.

 

[Julian]

Chuch. I'm a bad boy because I fvck with b!tches I don't really love or care for, when a b!tch is fvckin' with me she's got to give it up before I say I love her and that's just because of the fact she fvcked me. I'm not sympathetic for any man or woman and I curse, not politically correct yet it's sh!t you see successful politicians doing. I make a b!tch chase me, set her pace of reality, and I wreck my haters I don't try and understand them. Chuch.

Jorge Gonzalez

he said a badboy not a wanksta

 

[hansol]

I'll bite. I don't like tooting my own horn, but I'll throw this out there in hopes others can learn.

First things, the REAL bad boys aren't hanging out on an internet forum. They don't have the time nor inclination to do "self discovery". In my opinion the two pursuits are mutually exclusive. When you decide to live like a shark, you're always on the lookout for the bigger shark. This = No reading or down time.

I've been told by chicks and third parties that I'm a "bad boy" (That's the only reason I'm posting.) They've said it's due to a combination of pursuits and the way a guy carries himself. Between military service, riding bikes, and generally not giving a damn about what anyone else says, I've been told I come across as hard.

The ironic thing is I don't consider myself hard. I'm just a guy who has my own opinion on what constitutes a Man, and how one should live their life. I've met some REAL hard dudes. A few airbourne sergeants and a hells angel enforcer immediately come to mind. And they have said the same thing as well: when you're living that life, there really isn't time for anything else. And maybe it is that apathy that is the turn-on for women.

I tend to think that the "bad boy" thing is more of a hollywood image, due to the fact that bad boy culture doesn't mix well with "Adult" society. You can't slap "dilligaf" and "f u c k the world" patches on your jacket, grow a scuzzy beard, break bar stools over a guy who owes you money, and then go to meet the senior partners at your accounting firm the next day about a merger. You can't spend 10+ years killing enemy combatants around the world, and being proud of the fact that you're good at it, and then go teach kindergarten children how to colour. These guys instead tend to live on the fringes of society, as it's the only place they can "fit in".

I tend to think there are 3 types of people when it comes to "hard": the average joe, the "pretenders" (whether they themselves pretend to be hard, or other people like to pretend that they are hard (read:scary but safe). I'm in this category, for better or worse) and the REAL hard dudes. And they are out killing people or running drugs.

What attracts the women? I think it's the thrill, the novelty. But when the novelty wears off, they tend to leave. It's like a drug for them: they get off on the risk. Once they realize what they are getting into, most go back to their safe, pink-and-fluffy worlds. (If they can. If they get in with some real "bad boys", they can wind up shot full of heroin and gang-raped by the entire charter.) The few that do stay are usually messed up and full of red flag issues.

The interesting sociological thing is that these female actions are entirely predictable and make sense. It's along the same lines of the "good dad vs. good genes" theory that I posted a while back.

Anyway, there are my scrambled and knuckle-headed thoughts for the evening. For what it's worth.

 

[f283000]

I don't think there are any true natural bad boys here. The reason being is that they are too busy boning the hottest girls on campus. The people that are in this forum found it because they were looking for help in order to get women.

I'm not saying that some guys here have overcome their afcness and become badboys, but no natural a*holes and jerks usuallly need places like these.

 

[acehole]

Lol at warrior...it is true what he says. You dont need to be a bad boy. YOu just gotta stand up for yourself and not be a push over. The ones that do the opposite are nice guys.

 

[Julian]

Im not one for labels, I go more by traits and individual characteristics. You can be a white collar guy but sitll be a fking hardcore bad ass based on your attitude and set behaviors.

 

[Darth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELRRQIVKHF8

 

[HeyPachuco!]

Well, rule me out f283000.


Jerks and aholes need philosophy once in a while too "/

 

[Teflon_Mcgee]

I think an important question is how often do "bad boys" amount to anything important?

Sorry to all you "bad boys" but when I see you on the street I think "douche" and hope you have fun with whatever you are.

Allure and Tictac hit it.
A great man will trump a bad boy any time.

If you put a succesfull man, wearing an Armani suit with keys to his Porche in his pocket and a Gold's gym membership in his wallet, in the same room as a bad boy, the bad boy will come of as childish, loserish, and immature. Only the most fu*ked woman (read low quality and mental problems) will go for the bad boy.

You can be a good guy and still not be a pushover and harder than any bad boy.

I think I generally have a rep as a nice guy. But I'm never a push over.
And nobody but my family knows that I spent years training to kill, completed two combat tours, performed combat operations on two continents, and faced death on many occassions.

After that sh*t I just have to smile at you "bad boys."

 

[zekko]

If you put a succesfull man, wearing an Armani suit with keys to his Porche in his pocket and a Gold's gym membership in his wallet, in the same room as a bad boy, the bad boy will come of as childish, loserish, and immature. Only the most fu*ked woman (read low quality and mental problems) will go for the bad boy.

I agree, I have to think that the quality of women that bad boys get has to be pretty low, at least once you enter the adult world. How many super hot model types do you see hardcore bikers with?

And even if the bad boys will get the hot women, they're likely hoes. There will always be a lot of "women of ill repute" who will go after bad boys - birds of a feather flock together, as they say. If a quality women does end up getting fooled by a bad boy, she will not be with him long - she will quickly find out he's a loser.