Who here actually uses the "Mystery Method"?

[resilient]

Latinoman has a good point here concerning techniques. Look at Mystery... he couldn't keep his woman in a LTR when he was so detached to love his g/f that she ended up falling for his nicer roommate who was more caring. Or how Style lost his g/f to Robbie Williams. So ya.. mPUAs aren't invincible.

Agreed, it's also hard to keep a woman of high quality attracted over the long run since she has options as well.

My older DJ buddy tells me that 90% of women aren't the marrying type, but it's what we have to work with when we haven't quite reached mature DJ status yet professionally, health, and all.

MM is perfect for club/bar game when a PUA gets a same-night-pull... but probably unhealthy in the long run...

 

[DJ_in_making]

tru tru...

 

[Shiftkey]

Latinoman has a good point here concerning techniques. Look at Mystery... he couldn't keep his woman in a LTR when he was so detached to love his g/f that she ended up falling for his nicer roommate who was more caring. Or how Style lost his g/f to Robbie Williams. So ya.. mPUAs aren't invincible.

Agreed, it's also hard to keep a woman of high quality attracted over the long run since she has options as well.

My older DJ buddy tells me that 90% of women aren't the marrying type, but it's what we have to work with when we haven't quite reached mature DJ status yet professionally, health, and all.

MM is perfect for club/bar game when a PUA gets a same-night-pull... but probably unhealthy in the long run...

Mystery and Style didn't lose their GFs because they're great PUAs. MM won't teach you how to keep a girl, but all relationships start the same way: with the M3 model. What MM will do is increase your chances of finding quality women by allowing you to meet and attract so many women. And it will teach you how to attract quality women once you do find them.

Learning how to attract women and how to keep women are not mutually exclusive.

As a side note, MM does NOT teach same-night-pulls (aka fool's mate in the VAH). It emphasizes the 7 hour rule, which is that most women will not feel comfortable sleeping with you until you've spent about 7 hours with her.

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

apparently, Mystery and I have different ideas of what "quality" is...

 

[everywomanshero]

I got a lot of good things and realizations out of MM. At the end of the day, I did spend too much time on it that could've been used elsewhere, but I learned a lot. I don't use it the way Mystery does, I only retained bits and pieces that fit into what I wanted to do with my game. However, I do suggest (at least) the DVD series, the VAH, the interview series, and (if possible, and it's not that hard) find some wings that went to a bootcamp and have been practicing for at least a few months.

There is a great tendency to try half-assing it, I think if you're going to do this, then set aside a few months and really do it one new piece at a time. Really it takes at least several months to get to the point where the most realizations come even going out 3-4 nights a week. It costs a lot in cover charges too, and (hopefully) wings will already know which places are good which nights.

Consider that you have to study the material, get out an apply it, pay for transport, cover charges, even mall lunches get expensive and boring after a while. It's a huge commitment, and that's why most guys are never, ever going to go through with such a thing.

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

So what exactly is a REAL conversation with PEOPLE?

A conversation in which you genuinely get to know them, and they genuinely get to know you
IE a conversation in which 90% of the content ISNT pre-scripted.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

A conversation in which you genuinely get to know them, and they genuinely get to know you
IE a conversation in which 90% of the content ISNT pre-scripted.

So tell me, where exactly in MM does he expound on using scripts?

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

So tell me, where exactly in MM does he expound on using scripts?

u want exact quotes?
sorry, I deleted my copy of Venusian Arts a while ago.

the whole method is based on having canned openers, canned stories, standing in such a way so u dont "broadcast interest". cuz ya know, hate to let the ladies see our true colours. And if by chance, you bed a woman sooner than 7 hours (if things just click), its stalemate!! oh noes!! Mystery doesnt approve! :woo:

After a few years of using Pick-up material, primarily the Mystery Method, the "greatest of the Jedi", Style, still couldnt internalize it. If u've ever seen him on talk shows, when asked to demonstrate, he "cant do it". I admit some aspects of it, the 3M or M3 model for example, are quite good and allow you to see exactly how this whole game takes place, but I find canned stuff to be unoriginal, as many ppl who use MM cant create their own material. some game...

I aint knockin anyone who uses it. go right ahead. I know lots of people have found success with it. I just choose not to have Mystery Method be MY method.

 

[young_gun]

u want exact quotes?
sorry, I deleted my copy of Venusian Arts a while ago.

the whole method is based on having canned openers, canned stories, standing in such a way so u dont "broadcast interest". cuz ya know, hate to let the ladies see our true colours. And if by chance, you bed a woman sooner than 7 hours (if things just click), its stalemate!! oh noes!! Mystery doesnt approve! :woo:

After a few years of using Pick-up material, primarily the Mystery Method, the "greatest of the Jedi", Style, still couldnt internalize it. If u've ever seen him on talk shows, when asked to demonstrate, he "cant do it". I admit some aspects of it, the 3M or M3 model for example, are quite good and allow you to see exactly how this whole game takes place, but I find canned stuff to be unoriginal, as many ppl who use MM cant create their own material. some game...

I aint knockin anyone who uses it. go right ahead. I know lots of people have found success with it. I just choose not to have Mystery Method be MY method.

I agree 100%. For me, meeting women has been more of challenging my comfort zone and developing healthy mindsets than anything. I have a few things that I like to talk about with girls, and I have a few topics I like to start conversations out with (SOMETIMES), but outside that, I don't have any ROUTINES (how lame) in my repertoire. When I go out, my whole game plan is to be as social as I can, to have as much fun as possible, and actually listen to people to decide where to take the conversation. Once again, it might work for someone else, but it sure doesn't for me.

 

[Slevin]

the whole method is based on having canned openers, canned stories

Most people use canned material in their daily lives...they're called anecdotes.

Mystery tells noobs to use stock ones in the beginning, but he recommends developing your own for the long term.

 

[KoalaKing]

It is all down to the guys personality his body language and the tone of his voice when it comes to alluring the most beautiful woman, the guys who pull the chicks are the ones whom have the confident charismatic X Factor type personalities, methods and techniques are useless when it comes to picking up girls. :yes:

 

[Slevin]

It is all down to the guys personality his body language and the tone of his voice when it comes to alluring the most beautiful woman, the guys who pull the chicks are the ones whom have the confident charismatic X Factor type personalities

All of which can be developed through practice.

methods and techniques are useless when it comes to picking up girls.

There's a whole lot of guys who will disagree with this statement.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

u want exact quotes?
sorry, I deleted my copy of Venusian Arts a while ago.

Yeah, thought so..

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

absolutely. to an extent, most speech has canned elements.

but contrast a funny story that happened last week to you, with an opinion opener that you've said to 20 groups every saturday night for the last few months.

 

[Shiftkey]

A conversation in which you genuinely get to know them, and they genuinely get to know you
IE a conversation in which 90% of the content ISNT pre-scripted.

You do this during comfort stages. Only the attraction stages use scripts (yourown or someone elses). If you try to have a "genuin conversation" with someone who's not attracted to you first, you're going to be put in the friend's zone.

 

[Shiftkey]

I don't even know what the hell the mystery method is

Google is your friend.

 

[Freddy1]

I would be deeply interested to know if anyone has used Mysterie's method by walking up to a group?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I would be deeply interested to know if anyone has used Mysterie's method by walking up to a group?

What do you want to know?

 

[DJ_in_making]

You do this during comfort stages. Only the attraction stages use scripts (yourown or someone elses). If you try to have a "genuin conversation" with someone who's not attracted to you first, you're going to be put in the friend's zone.

yeah I agree w/ that one. Just be careful about those canned openers. Style actually had a situation where girls told him "We heard that one already"

 

[Derek Flint]

You guys are aware that by purposely doing things to DHV, you are actually demonstrating lower value, right?

As for Negs, dressing like a fag, opinion openers, "The cube" ?

All gay stuff.

Be a Man, be confident, have a strong frame.

That's all you'll ever need.

Not cheesy techniques and tactics that usually only work on LSE party girls.