Who else hates the fact that society respects only working men?

[AreYouSingleFemale]

I'm a working man earning more than I will ever spend, and I absolutely detest the fact I have to go to work every day and sweat my ass, reporting to some middle aged morons who won't be able to maintain a boner, rarely get time to go out and have fun. I could retire today and comfortably live on the interest income alone for the rest of my life. But for the social conditioning that working men alone earn respect (from women especially) I wouldn't work at all. I absolutely hate that precious youth is wasted on working and making money. Older men at senior management positions and above having nothing much to lose from slaving all day, as they already have their families established and probably can't maintain a boner, and they over compensate for all that by working all day and much of the night and deriving their self image from their work. But younger men pay a much higher price by working and getting old in the process, instead of spending more time seducing women and having fun. Work hard, develop a career, work even harder as you move up, all this and what does one get in the end? Old age. More time is spent making money than spending it. Money which was a means to an end has become the end in itself.
I can't silence that voice deep within me accusing me as a 'GREEDY' even though I may call it social conditioning and such. If only companies would hire people having gaps in their careers, I would gladly take a break.

 

[Vice]

Hence why I've decided to take the long, slow, yet rewarding road towards self-unemployment. That's right, self-UNemployment.

because I too cannot stand being in a subservient position, much less to uninspiring middle aged men who think their mediocre taste in sports cars entitle them to act superior, when in reality they're boring old married men whom are probably getting cheated on by their fat wife.

My youth shall NOT be wasted working for someone else.

 

[synergy1]

even as an entrepreneur, you are still working for someone else. Especially in the early goings, you will have deliverable to adhere too or else your client will not pay you. The difference is that your work matters in this case. When you are at a J.O.B, the responsibility level goes down even though you are working for someone. As someone who has done both, its safe to say both situations are cut from the same cloth.

 

[Mr.Positive]

I'm a working man earning more than I will ever spend, and I absolutely detest the fact I have to go to work every day and sweat my ass, reporting to some middle aged morons who won't be able to maintain a boner, rarely get time to go out and have fun. I could retire today and comfortably live on the interest income alone for the rest of my life. But for the social conditioning that working men alone earn respect (from women especially) I wouldn't work at all. .

Instead of all the time working, by exploring the world gives you opportunity to meet a lot of women. It's mostly western culture that's so focused on money.

Sounds like you've carved a good situation for yourself. If I was in your shoes...I'd quit working. In a heartbeat. Take a year or two off and just be free. You can always go back to work later, if you want. Go explore this world and have great adventures.

Free yourself from the mentality that society must dictate what is acceptable. Too many men hold themselves back in life that way. Then, later down the road, they have regrets. Why do you think a lot of men have a mid-life crisis?

It's really sad how many men make decisions based upon approval/acceptance of women, particularly.

Your whole reason for this thread is to point out how YOU are living your life...not the way you want to, but to be accepted by women and society. As men we are not here to put on a dancing act to impress women. I say, who cares what anyone thinks. The biggest part to being the man you want to be is having the balls to make bold decisions in face of what others think.

 

[Rubirosa]

I'm a working man earning more than I will ever spend, and I absolutely detest the fact I have to go to work every day and sweat my ass, reporting to some middle aged morons who won't be able to maintain a boner, rarely get time to go out and have fun. I could retire today and comfortably live on the interest income alone for the rest of my life. But for the social conditioning that working men alone earn respect (from women especially) I wouldn't work at all. I absolutely hate that precious youth is wasted on working and making money. Older men at senior management positions and above having nothing much to lose from slaving all day, as they already have their families established and probably can't maintain a boner, and they over compensate for all that by working all day and much of the night and deriving their self image from their work. But younger men pay a much higher price by working and getting old in the process, instead of spending more time seducing women and having fun. Work hard, develop a career, work even harder as you move up, all this and what does one get in the end? Old age. More time is spent making money than spending it. Money which was a means to an end has become the end in itself.
I can't silence that voice deep within me accusing me as a 'GREEDY' even though I may call it social conditioning and such. If only companies would hire people having gaps in their careers, I would gladly take a break.

First, If you are lucky enough not to suffer a tragic accident or a terrible disease, you too will be a middle aged man someday (as for the boner part--I don't know what your virility will be like when you are middle aged).
Your post screams at the injustice of the big mean World, but at the end of the day, nobody really gives a sh#t if there's idealism without action.
Now I don't mean that to be insulting, but I've learned that as I have gotten older, there is a huge difference between thinking idealisticly and actually being idealistic. I'll bet that most of those hippies in the mud at Woodstock grew out of their utopian ideas and obtained homes, mortgages, families, and now grandchildren that they friend on Facebook. If you have worked hard enough in your youth to actually have enough cash to be comfortable, then by all means why not enjoy it ? I've never heard of the issue you raise in regards to society questioning a man's character who is living off the fruits of his previous labor. In my youth I too did not like the "suits" because I saw them as brown nosing, soulless drones. My attitude has totally changed to where I now look at them as being someone who worked harder than the next guy. A man who has worked hard and risen in the ranks should be admired, not scoffed at. They are middle aged in their position because that is the ladder they have climbed in their life.
I have a friend who has an older brother. The whole family is very smart and successful, but the oldest brother is admired the most. Why ? Because he has followed his passion in life. All he does is climb mountains. He works as a manager in a camping store in a resort area for a few months out of the year, then the rest of the time he is attemping to summit some peak in the World. He then writes about his adventures in climbing journals. Money is simply a means for him to enjoy what he does in life. You should do the same. Leave this job if it is spiritually killing you.

 

[BigJimbo]

I'm a working man earning more than I will ever spend, and I absolutely detest the fact I have to go to work every day and sweat my ass, reporting to some middle aged morons who won't be able to maintain a boner, rarely get time to go out and have fun. I could retire today and comfortably live on the interest income alone for the rest of my life. But for the social conditioning that working men alone earn respect (from women especially) I wouldn't work at all. I absolutely hate that precious youth is wasted on working and making money. Older men at senior management positions and above having nothing much to lose from slaving all day, as they already have their families established and probably can't maintain a boner, and they over compensate for all that by working all day and much of the night and deriving their self image from their work. But younger men pay a much higher price by working and getting old in the process, instead of spending more time seducing women and having fun. Work hard, develop a career, work even harder as you move up, all this and what does one get in the end? Old age. More time is spent making money than spending it. Money which was a means to an end has become the end in itself.
I can't silence that voice deep within me accusing me as a 'GREEDY' even though I may call it social conditioning and such. If only companies would hire people having gaps in their careers, I would gladly take a break.

Another rich young boy on here. Wow, all of you are such elites.

If this young boy was actually wealthy he wouldn't give a damn what anybody thought about him. BTW, I have NEVER been to a hotel or high-end department store where anyone asked me what I did. They lightly bow to me and ask me to let them know if I ever need anything. Same goes for people in general. When they know you have money they treat you very gently. Money intimidates people. It also gets girls very wet.

 

[search1ng]

jimbo actually has a point. Ive never seen anyone with real money, give a **** regarding what they thought people thought of them.

 

[AreYouSingleFemale]

Let me clarify myself a bit. I'm not super wealthy. Its just I can comfortably live off interest income alone. Once I quit working probably I won't be perceived as a wealthy guy enjoying life. There is a huge competition from thousands of other men who have as much money as me and continue working and accumulating wealth. You might be aware how hot the software industry is in India, and I work in it. That's where the fear of being looked down by women comes in. Even though my interest income itself is higher than the income many people will earn in other professions. My current annual income from interest is a little more than what my own annual income was when I started my career 8 years ago. But I'm not unique, the same is true for every other guy in this industry but they are comfortable working all the time and not having a life.

Also the fact that many of you assumed I must be a super rich guy shows your own conditioning by greed. Why can't a guy retire after making just enough money even though he is not super rich?! That's why I made mention about what the society expects.

I'm terrified of death and old age, and I wish I had more courage to do something about it. Like the Buddha renounced everything and went in search of truth, I want to leave everything else and exclusively pursue women.

 

[Warrior74]

As someone who is poor, unemployed and bootstrapping a small business because that's how he can pay his bills, I have a big fvck you to you complaining cvnts. If I had enough money to not have to work 18 hour days, I'd gladly live off of it and give no fvcks what anyone thought. I've been poor enough in the past to know I don't need a lot to live comfortably (our level of comfort might differ). One thing I can say is this, if you made the money once you can make it twice...but if you can afford to go and follow your passions in life, do it while you're young and come back to the grind later instead of complaining about it. Live. You are only there because you choose to be. Nobody is making you.

If you fear what women will think and how you won't get any respect, then you have problems. What you think and how much you respect yourself should be the most important thing. I know women who won't talk to me because I'm broke. It doesn't change who I am, just who I sleep with.

Companies don't hire people with gaps in their resumes? They do if you were out being awesome. IF you were smoking weed and eating cheetos for 3 years...yah. If you were out learning about the world and following some passion, I think everyone can respect that. Mainly this whole post just reeks of fear and victimhood. I see no manhood in this anywhere.

 

[AreYouSingleFemale]

One thing I can say is this, if you made the money once you can make it twice...but if you can afford to go and follow your passions in life, do it while you're young and come back to the grind later instead of complaining about it. Live. You are only there because you choose to be. Nobody is making you.

Hats off to you man.

Companies don't hire people with gaps in their resumes? They do if you were out being awesome. IF you were smoking weed and eating cheetos for 3 years...yah. If you were out learning about the world and following some passion, I think everyone can respect that. .

Interviewer: I see a big gap of 15 years in your resume. Last time you employed was back in Feb 2012.

Me: Yes, I have been quite busy all this time, learning the world.

Interviewer: Could you elaborate?

Me: Well, chasing women, travelling to beautiful locations and picking up tourists, endless numbers dates and having sex with one new girl every 2 or 3 days atleast.

Interviewer: Vow, I wish I did that. You are appointed, even though there are a thousand other applicants who have been working and brushing up their skills while you were busy with, well, ugh... Your passion for life will be an asset to us.

 

[speed dawg]

If I could afford not to work then I surely would not. A couple of things I've found are fact for me:

1) I enjoy living comfortably in the United States.
2) You need some money to do that.

So, I've established for myself the basic needs to be able to live comfortably. For me, probably around a $200,000 house paid for (not sure the location, but anywhere I may live you can get around a 2,000 sq. ft. house for that amount). I'd live to have a paid for vehicle, then enough money in the bank to net me at least about 50 Gs a year in interest.

None of that's going to happen for a long time. So, I'll be working.

And I hear alot about preaching. Someone tell me what's better, going out and pursuing these so called "passions" or actually making a little money, having a family and enjoying them? I don't see how you can go wrong with either. In my long journey of finding myself I've discovered that you define yourself as a person, not your work, not any of that crap. But you do have to survive.

You need to quit taking your life for granted. Alot of people died so we can live in the suburbs and live free you know.

 

[Appleade]

As if nothing else about what society accepts disappoints.

Society has always been a ***** for the freethinkers, including those who are trying to mend living with their passions. In this state of the world, we're all eventually bound to believe that we can either choose to survive or get rich and die trying.

It's funny how we've been preached (for us 80's babies at least) that we can live out our ideals as long as we work hard for it. But is that still the way it is? Was it mentioned when you were a child that you had to sacrifice almost everything in order to feel "free?" Including your possible financial security and comfort?

I personally have no problem with it.

They say that those who are about to die regret working so hard. I think they just regret working so hard for other people and not working hard enough for their own spiritual growth. Probably slaving under the guise that their pain and suffering will somehow capitalize in some form, some way, either materially, mentally, or spiritually. Only to find out that in the end, their slaving was nothing but an excuse not to take the bigger more stressful risks that reaped greater rewards.

 

[AreYouSingleFemale]

Only to find out that in the end, their slaving was nothing but an excuse not to take the bigger more stressful risks that reaped greater rewards.

How true! If I'm forced to work on a weekend for example, part of me will feel relieved, because then I don't have to go out and approach women. Working exclusively for money is so against the soul.

 

[ArcBound]

You still don't get it

I've seen your posts here countless times about you talking about your high paying engineering jobs.

You are always trying to find a way to derive confidence from your high paying jobs and you always act surprised when a poor person does better with woman than you. And you make countless threads mocking people below you.

"He had no money, no career, no looks, just his mouth to seduce a hottie."

"I'm better educated, have a successful career, better looking, and a huge bank balance compared to that guy. "

"Despite the fact that she might be a college student earning nothing and doing an useless Arts course. "

AreYouSingleFemale you have to realize no one gives a flying fvck about how much money you make or your career. Sure sometimes it is relevant but in your case it is definitely not what is holding you back and after all these years you still aren't realizing this. I know I sound like a douche but you are withholding something from us cause your stories never really match up. If you already have a decent amount of money then society does not look as harshly at your career as you claim.

I'd like to echo everything Warrior said as well..

 

[ChalengeGuyFan]

I can't relate.

I've been working at my first job for almost an year now - in the software industry for a major player.

I fvcking _love_ to work!
It's challenging for my mind and attitude (work builds character), I like the pace and the hardship, I like the fact that I'm one of the kick-ass guys there, I like the fact that I can become one of the best at something that matters, I like it that some people look up to me, I make a difference (I'm a one man team working on something pretty important), I constantly have goals and I don't waste time (like I did in college).
I will happily stay 2-3-4 hours overtime if it's moving me closer towards a desirable goal.

Working (using your mind and/or body) is manly. Shooting sh!t is lame. I am one of those who don't respect (much) those who don't work.
I recently met with a colleague from college who was still a fence sitter and proud of it. Involuntarily, I felt disgusted.


And don't kid yourself that you'd have full time fun if you wouldn't work. That is a joke and you're probably aware of it.

 

[backbreaker]

You still don't get it

I've seen your posts here countless times about you talking about your high paying engineering jobs.

You are always trying to find a way to derive confidence from your high paying jobs and you always act surprised when a poor person does better with woman than you. And you make countless threads mocking people below you.

"He had no money, no career, no looks, just his mouth to seduce a hottie."

"I'm better educated, have a successful career, better looking, and a huge bank balance compared to that guy. "

"Despite the fact that she might be a college student earning nothing and doing an useless Arts course. "

AreYouSingleFemale you have to realize no one gives a flying fvck about how much money you make or your career. Sure sometimes it is relevant but in your case it is definitely not what is holding you back and after all these years you still aren't realizing this. I know I sound like a douche but you are withholding something from us cause your stories never really match up. If you already have a decent amount of money then society does not look as harshly at your career as you claim.

I'd like to echo everything Warrior said as well..

I will cosign this

as someone who can actually retire right now if he so chose, I can tell you honestly.. no one gives 2 ****s about how much money you have expect people who want to get it from you. My friends who come over here and shoot the **** with us don't give a ****. Most women I've fvcked dont' even know what I do for a living let alone how much money I make, made or worth. at least not in the shallow sense that you present it. My mother doesn't care. My father doesn't care. My wife doesn't care.. okay maybe a little lol. My sister doesn't care. I'm still my mothers kncklehead son in her eyes. Hell honestly I don't care truth be told. Money is nothing more than a means to an end it's not a status symbol.

You make the mistake alot of broke guys make when it comes to money and think that the avg woman, actually gives a **** about the amount of money in your bank account. they don't. they like the traits of a successful ambitious driven guy, which you don't seem to possess.

a second thing.. never paint yourself as "that guy" the "a woman should get wet thinking about me just because i have a little money guy" because by that theory, a woman should get wetter by a guy who has MORE money than you. in other words, you are setting yourself up to get got by a bigger fish. you have to figure out who you are and what you are.

You and me could not be any more different. I actually do not like (at all) talking about how much money I have or am worth or whatever, it makes me very uncomfortable, even still, but will do so when I have to prove a point. You have zero humility which tells me that you have not been through the trials and tribulations of most successful people. as arc said something is being left out.



you are also setting yourself up to be played by the first gold digger to figure out what your rap is and cater to it and get you hook line and sinker.

 

[speed dawg]

I will cosign this

as someone who can actually retire right now if he so chose, I can tell you honestly.. no one gives 2 ****s about how much money you have expect people who want to get it from you. My friends who come over here and shoot the **** with us don't give a ****. Most women I've fvcked dont' even know what I do for a living let alone how much money I make, made or worth. at least not in the shallow sense that you present it. My mother doesn't care. My father doesn't care. My wife doesn't care.. okay maybe a little lol. My sister doesn't care. I'm still my mothers kncklehead son in her eyes. Hell honestly I don't care truth be told. Money is nothing more than a means to an end it's not a status symbol.

You make the mistake alot of broke guys make when it comes to money and think that the avg woman, actually gives a **** about the amount of money in your bank account. they don't. they like the traits of a successful ambitious driven guy, which you don't seem to possess.

a second thing.. never paint yourself as "that guy" the "a woman should get wet thinking about me just because i have a little money guy" because by that theory, a woman should get wetter by a guy who has MORE money than you. in other words, you are setting yourself up to get got by a bigger fish. you have to figure out who you are and what you are.

You and me could not be any more different. I actually do not like (at all) talking about how much money I have or am worth or whatever, it makes me very uncomfortable, even still, but will do so when I have to prove a point. You have zero humility which tells me that you have not been through the trials and tribulations of most successful people. as arc said something is being left out.

you are also setting yourself up to be played by the first gold digger to figure out what your rap is and cater to it and get you hook line and sinker.

That's some good sh1t backbreaker. All of it, especially in bold.

 

[Falcon]

OP, maybe it would be better if you were born a couple centuries ago or in a third-world country, because then these thoughts would never cross your mind. Society respects working men because they are needed to survive, period. It's been like that from the beginning of human civilization. All the goods, material things, lifestyle you can enjoy now was because of working men. If you don't like it, you can quit your job since I'm sure in this economy it wont be long until someone else takes it. You're just a statistic to the economy and general market. The economy only cares about working people and real free-thinkers.

Also, why are you so hostile to "middle-aged" working men? Do you know them well enough to judge them like that? Chances are when it's all said and done, many of them will experience a lot more than you will in your life. Some of the older people I knew were surprisingly some of the coolest dudes in college and had awesome stories. Maybe you can learn something from them. Some of the upper-career guys do work hard, but man they also party hard too....

 

[Warrior74]

Hats off to you man.




Interviewer: I see a big gap of 15 years in your resume. Last time you employed was back in Feb 2012.

Me: Yes, I have been quite busy all this time, learning the world.

Interviewer: Could you elaborate?

Me: Well, chasing women, travelling to beautiful locations and picking up tourists, endless numbers dates and having sex with one new girl every 2 or 3 days atleast.

Interviewer: Vow, I wish I did that. You are appointed, even though there are a thousand other applicants who have been working and brushing up their skills while you were busy with, well, ugh... Your passion for life will be an asset to us.

So that's what you would do. Me, I'd be like :

Yes Mr. Nolan. I retired 8 years ago after running my own company and moved to LA to make films, its always been my passion, I do it because I love it. I'm so glad you saw my last film at cannes. Yes I'd love to work on this next project with you, are you going to sundance this year? A big group of us will be there skiing, it's going to be a great time, bring C. Bale with you.

Taking time off just to chase women? 15 years? Jakes on you.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Society respects whatever is advertised the heaviest.

Prove me wrong. Nuclear family, Apple devices, the high class lifestyle living on credit.

Society IS advertisement. Why? Because that's the only thing that unites us. Before it used to be community and local stuff, now it's television and the dream factories that are movies.

Anyways, you guys going to watch Ghost Rider 2? Looks like a shiny turd of a movie. Even the actors aren't real. I'm not sure that Nicholas Cage is even in the movie. His head is probably photoshopped onto a 3D computer generated stunt model.