White women aren't nearly as bad as they are portrayed.

[highSpeed]

I've known this the whole time. I still don't understand why you're so sensitive about his post.

because the skin color identity stupidity needs to stop. this post had little to do with skin color and mostly to do with western culture. now to be fair, western culture is way better than any other but it has it's downsides and the infantilization of women is one of them. But to limit things to a skin color is bigoted at best and racist at worst. these are the same things that white people are beat up on for all the time, even when the scientific facts and research supports them. the more that this nonsense is allowed to continue, the more it will happen. this is not right and needs to stop, unless of course you want threads like: why do black people do this? why do black people do that? why do latinos do this? why do latinos do that?

if it's wrong to do it to supposed minority groups, then it's wrong to do it all the way around. it has nothing to do with being sensitive, it's about doing what is right and being fair. you want to have race based threads that pose black and brown women in a negative way, fine, let's do the race thing. you want to have a civil and fair minded discussion about how to interact with women in a way that brings positive results to us all, I'd rather do that.

 

[dk1990S111]

Gao is the biggest racist on this forum, every post is about race. Dude needs to stop with these stupid threads

 

[PeasantPlayer]

yep, I don't like either and I pay for both, so you're welcome.

I don't care for people in general, its too bad cause I actually do have a good heart. I don't trust them and prefer to remain a lone wolf.

People talk crap about it to me bragging about how they have families and kids which I think is a joke.

I'm trying to become a legend....if I wanted to be average I could of done that years ago

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Of course. My GF told me straight up she isn't dating men her age because they are broke !

However, i think the difference is Von, that yes, she, and other Asian girls don't pick me and men for their looks. It is much more pragmatic - how will I survive? How will my children be provided for? Of course, an asian girl likes a rich western man. That has been the deal between a lot of men, and a lot of women, for millenia.

However, although they are somewhat "gold digger".....I know a lot of her friends who married western men, and none are divorced. It doesn't seem to be "marry and steal money" type giold digging, more "I want a rich BF" type.

How do you spend money on her? I doubt you literally hand her cash, do you?

 

[Fruitbat]

How do you spend money on her? I doubt you literally hand her cash, do you?

If I want coffee, yes. usually I buy her stuff but she's bought quite a lot of stuff for me too.

If I have a good month I'll prob be generous. We aren't talking big bucks, just clothing mainly and I'll take her out places to eat etc.

I can understand this thinking because if you are pragmatic, as a woman who wants a succesfull family, a more established man is low risk for them. I'm not 25 and going around "hanging out" with a ton of young women, She has less chance of being dumped later on. She also knows that I have greater general experience to help her.

The other thing is, how do you pay for things as a couple? Ive always thought % of income is the most fair. So, If I make 10,000 and she makes 2,000, and the bills are 1,200, I have no issues paying 10% of my salary and her paying 10% of hers. The other solution is to make each persons money available to each other, which is where arguments start.

Men earn more than women because we often apply ourselves to career more vigoously so generally if you have a woman, she will always benefit. She doesn't need to manipulate you, even just by cohabiting she is better off, and so am I.

One of my really red pill mates recently said he broke up with a GF because is she moved in, he wanted her to get a better paying job because he was 50/50 all the way. This chick was quite poor and he is very well off. I thought this is extreme.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

If I want coffee, yes. usually I buy her stuff but she's bought quite a lot of stuff for me too.

If I have a good month I'll prob be generous. We aren't talking big bucks, just clothing mainly and I'll take her out places to eat etc.

I can understand this thinking because if you are pragmatic, as a woman who wants a succesfull family, a more established man is low risk for them. I'm not 25 and going around "hanging out" with a ton of young women, She has less chance of being dumped later on. She also knows that I have greater general experience to help her.

The other thing is, how do you pay for things as a couple? Ive always thought % of income is the most fair. So, If I make 10,000 and she makes 2,000, and the bills are 1,200, I have no issues paying 10% of my salary and her paying 10% of hers. The other solution is to make each persons money available to each other, which is where arguments start.

Men earn more than women because we often apply ourselves to career more vigoously so generally if you have a woman, she will always benefit. She doesn't need to manipulate you, even just by cohabiting she is better off, and so am I.

One of my really red pill mates recently said he broke up with a GF because is she moved in, he wanted her to get a better paying job because he was 50/50 all the way. This chick was quite poor and he is very well off. I thought this is extreme.

Yea I don't even mind spending money on a girl. If she's worth having around, it's my decision. I think most hot girls expect it whether they're worth it or not.

 

[Fruitbat]

I don't care for people in general, its too bad cause I actually do have a good heart. I don't trust them and prefer to remain a lone wolf.

People talk crap about it to me bragging about how they have families and kids which I think is a joke.

I'm trying to become a legend....if I wanted to be average I could of done that years ago

Batman? Is that you?

 

[Roober]

Gentleman, please make the distinction between "white" and "western". A brown skinned girl raised in the west is very much the same thing. So, from hereafter, I will refer to my own kind as "western" and not "white".

Having extensive XP points with many races....all I can say is from my own experience.

- Western women are less materialistic than the many others - but this is from a guys perspective. They are just as into their iphones and makeup, but I would say, all things being equal, a western woman looks to a man less for these things. They are more looks/sex focussed than many other races. However, that's in the relationship. There is no social shame here for going single mum and kicking out Dad, so in a way they can and will cost more. Difference is, nearly every girl I dated who wasn't western really likes gifts and stuff. Even if it's silly, cheap ****.

- A western woman is significantly more independent. Is she upset about something? Even if she isn't, damn right one ofher girlfriends has some sort of a problem. Her social group will weild more influence then non-western women.

- Much less preoccupation with family and kids. With most of my western exs, they were the ones freaking out about kids. Career? My body? As if it's some massive thing for them to proceate, as if it's an unreasonable thing to expect a woman to want that (except women hitting the wall)

- However.whatever weird **** makes western women tick, I'm either unwilling or unable to work out. A friend of mine confessed his daughters boufriend sent her flowers and she freaked "What does it mean Dad?" !! He agreed with that girls (westernised) are weird as hell. To think of the reaction some of my eastern European exs...they would be over the moon.

- Western woman seem to have a penchant for bad treatment. This can be summed up by the reaction of one of my exes....I was a little drunk and said something warmly affectionate. She freaked out and said "Yes but I can always find a man to tell me this, it'sworthless" Freak!

Whatever it is, the skills for western women are very difficult. For everyone else, it's mainly old school and easy.

One thing that strikes me is the willingless of non-western women to actually.....well, please you. I mean., doesn't have some stick up her backside about doing anything for a man. My ex ex was Polish and she would offer to serve guests drink and cook. I was taken back by this.

Bravo dude!

You nailed most of it!

The distinction could also be made for those which were raised here, but raised with a non-western upbringing. For example, my lady and her family spoke predominantly Japanese at home, she was expected to cook dinner each night for her family, and do her brother's laundry, not allowed to really go out, but they also supported her through college and helping to buy a home.

I knew they were old school when I went over there recently and talked with her dad, who's English is not very good at all. He said "I can't retire. What am I going to do? Women take care of the home, and I don't have anything to do. I need to work" He still does landscaping 5 days at week and is 78.

One of the best ways to filter a woman's values is through her family, which is mainly why I try to meet them within the first year of dating.

 

[Fruitbat]

Bravo dude!

You nailed most of it!

The distinction could also be made for those which were raised here, but raised with a non-western upbringing. For example, my lady and her family spoke predominantly Japanese at home, she was expected to cook dinner each night for her family, and do her brother's laundry, not allowed to really go out, but they also supported her through college and helping to buy a home.

I knew they were old school when I went over there recently and talked with her dad, who's English is not very good at all. He said "I can't retire. What am I going to do? Women take care of the home, and I don't have anything to do. I need to work" He still does landscaping 5 days at week and is 78.

One of the best ways to filter a woman's values is through her family, which is mainly why I try to meet them within the first year of dating.

Wow.Japanese. Amongst the prettiest on planet earth and from what my girl tells me, they are the most trad people on earth - e.g. woman stays home.

Seems very Asian in general. So, my girl couldn't quite comprehend, on my income, why I don't own like 8 properties etc. We discussed the differences and in western culture, men leave home quite early. We have a social shame on living with parents so late. Seems over there, kids are completely supported by parents, even if working, so they can save a buy big stuff. Here, there would be shame attahed to late20s/early 30s men leeching of their parents.

Seems you are totally owned by your fam, but also, completely catered for. When I explained I had fully supported myself (bar a few months) since 19 years old she was very surprised.

Other things which show up are questions like "what do your parents think?" and I'm like "does it matter? My parents just let me get on with life and we enjoy our visits!" - she finds that weird, also that I see my sister like 3 times a year and parents once a week max, which I think is pretty good!

 

[Good Gao]

Spanish/Italian/Greek/parts of middle east like Armenia and Turkey >>>>>>>>> Medium to light skin white girls


Beautiful black hair
Beautiful olive complexion
Way more curves/ass/tits

Nope!

First of all, if what you say is true then why do men from those parts of the world chase Northern European women like a bunch of thirsty predators? Often resorting to rape to get one, these are facts. At the same time you don't see Northern European men chasing after the kinds of women you describe at all.

The next thing, these women have the biggest egos on the planet. Italian women are full of themselves and have an ego that makes American women come off as down to earth. It is no wonder men from those parts of the world are so sleazy and chase after tourist women so much, because their women are prudes with out of touch egos.

I would actually say Middle Eastern and Southern European women are among the worst on this planet.