@zekko I very much identify with being the middlepoint between weak and strong. I find it wrong for the strong to abuse the weak. I'm strong myself today, but I know how it is to be weak and be at the mercy of someone abusive. I don't care if it's two strong people going at each other, they stand a chance protecting themselves. What we're talking about in this thread is NOT a fair fight, zinc4 is talking about allowing straight out abuse. It turns wrong in the instant one of them (in this case the woman) does not want to continue and the other (the man) continues against her will. This very clearly puts the man as you say in the role of wolf and the woman in the role of sheep. The wolf stops for nothing and doesn't give a damn, the sheep is incapable of defending itself and thus suffer from the attack. I would prefer not to see people suffer, I would rather they fight me. That's at least a fair game, because I fight back.
I think we would all be better off helping others in need. I don't care if the world goes one way or the other or how the times have changed, I stand by this with rock solid integrity.
I don't think he meant any disrespect either, I didn't feel disrespected by his response. I felt horrified that he thinks it's ok to don't do sh!t about people being brutally attacked, even if it was to his own detriment.
Feminism and white knighting is a common connection, one I can easily resolve. Protecting a feminist is what a white knight would do, because a feminist takes the strong position. A white knight protect those who do not really need it. Feminists are wolves, not sheep. As you pointed out.
@zinc4 Most of us I assume live in the western part of the world. Taiwanese gangsters are criminals, what they do is illegal by any definition of any law. Cutting someone's arm off is a reaction waaaaaay out of proportion. Just because they don't give a fvck about other humans, it does NOT justify you doing the same. Are you going to let these people win and run the world through fear, threats and intimidation? Only way this was foolish is if he knew he couldn't fight them, it would then be a much more prudent choice to let the girlfriend take a slap. Minimizing the losses. Anyways the barbaric minorities of asian countries is completely irrelevant to the discussion of basic fvcking morals.
You do have some understanding about the concept I'm talking of I see. To protect a defenseless animal or child, to protect the weak from the strong who choose to abuse their power to cause harm. Not all adults are equal in strength. Violence is NOT an acceptable way of acting, the only exception being physical defense against those who do attack with violence.
I'll tone it down a little from slashing people's arms off since it's waaaay more extreme than the topic here. If there's a man forcing himself onto a woman who does not want the man it's wrong, he's using force against someone else with no consideration for the woman. Such harmful use of force I will use my own force against, to defend those unable to defend themselves so they don't get abused.
Last thing, nobody deserves to have their arms chopped off regardless of what they've done. If you think so you're as rotten as the gangsters as far as morals go. We're not in the dark ages anymore last time I checked, but if you continue thinking like this and other people adopt this thinking of yours, then we're gonna degenerate into a new dark age.
I sincierely hope you get on better thoughts.
