White British solder killed by black radicals.....

[Married Buried]

u go unarmed at the risk of your life, your property, and your honor.

You can't carry around guns in the UK. You can't even buy them. The police don't even have guns, only special police do.

There are no mass shootings either, they act pretty civilized.

These types of things and Boston are blowback from Iraq. Ron Paul warned about it.

 

[switch]

you know the thing is when you push a man too far, soon he will start pushing back.


im not a muslim or whatever and im white.also im against faggots and homosexuals.what i present is just a rational argument. if someone pushes you once, nothing will happen, but if he pushes and pushes and pushes , at some point even a mangina will start to push back.

we cant push people and then expect them to stay silent or say "oh please go ahead and fvck my arse as well" no you only get that in a S&M porno not IRL.
we pushed these guys by killing millions in iraq and afghanistan, now they are pushing back, simple

 

[speed dawg]

Not sure if OP is trolling or just too tired to be bit more subtle in his racism.

I'm a big boy, and I'm fully aware of how my post sounded, and I meant every single word of it. Not only that, but I 'judge' people as well. And I will to the day I die. For my own safety.

In case you didn't get the details, these guys were indoctrinated muslims who happened to be black, just as the Boston bombers were white.

White people have no choice. They are inundated with this garbage every single day, these rodents of the world populating our society.

I am NOT advocating some nazi genocide BS, so you liberal ****-tards don't even start. But there needs to be tough, VISUAL punishment and the violence levels would go way down.

 

[Jaylan]

you know the thing is when you push a man too far, soon he will start pushing back.

im not a muslim or whatever and im white.also im against faggots and homosexuals.what i present is just a rational argument. if someone pushes you once, nothing will happen, but if he pushes and pushes and pushes , at some point even a mangina will start to push back.

we cant push people and then expect them to stay silent or say "oh please go ahead and fvck my arse as well" no you only get that in a S&M porno not IRL.
we pushed these guys by killing millions in iraq and afghanistan, now they are pushing back, simple

Not sure what gays have to do with this...but you are right about one thing. These people are pushing back. Muslims dont seem eager to roll over and submit the way many other have against foreign Western interference in their lands.

Hell, Im sure wed be seeing Vietnamese and North Korean terrorists doing bad things if the West didnt decide to leave them the hell alone and get out of their land. America couldnt win there, so we backed off. I cant see why we dont do the same and get out of Muslim land.

Not sure if OP is trolling or just too tired to be bit more subtle in his racism.

In case you didn't get the details, these guys were indoctrinated muslims who happened to be black, just as the Boston bombers were white.

I do agree that for the sake of not ruffling up feathers, we shy away from criticisms of Islam. We try and make out like all religions are on par and deserve respect when some are clearly more damaging than others. We don't do it with anything else. If I strap on a white hood and tell Mein Kampf is my favouite book I'd no doubt be (ironically) lynched but if I tell people I adhere to a religion that advocates a global jihad against all infidels then suddenly it's alright "because it's my religion".

Islam is an inherently extreme religion and until we have the balls to admit this to ourselves we will keep seeing these kind of atrocities being committed.

http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/the-reality-of-islam

Strong post.

I agree with this to an extent. I basically feel that Islam teaches its men to not be puzzies and to be strong and prideful. Some beliefs are extreme though. But just imagine that Hawaii was an Islamic monarchy when we overthrew it and made it a state? We would have a lot more terrorist issues domestically if that was the case.

My point? Muslims as a whole are not pushovers...and theres too many of them spread all over the world, for any power to completely hold them all at bay. Also, part of my point was that this isnt solely a religious issue. Its a geo-political nationalist issue too.

I'm a big boy, and I'm fully aware of how my post sounded, and I meant every single word of it. Not only that, but I 'judge' people as well. And I will to the day I die. For my own safety.

White people have no choice. They are inundated with this garbage every single day, these rodents of the world populating our society.

I am NOT advocating some nazi genocide BS, so you liberal ****-tards don't even start. But there needs to be tough, VISUAL punishment and the violence levels would go way down.

You realize a ton of White people are Muslim right? Turks, Chechens, other Caucus region Muslims, etc. Hell, a good number of North Africans can even blend into the USA or Europe with the right clothing and accent.

Stop it dude....this case has NOTHING to do with race. Again, its an Islam vs the West thing.

And you couldnt be more wrong about visual punishment. All this would do is give these people more recruiting power, and an even bigger excuse to attack innocent citizens. You think they care about punishment? They are willing to die for their beliefs. Punishment will be no deterrent at all. The consequences of Death, lifelong imprisonment, or torture at Gitmo arent scaring these guys. So why would a public display of punishment do so?

Remember the Abu Gharib photo scandal? That was public humiliation and punishment. And it only enraged radicals further. So I dont see why you think something like that would help.

 

[Married Buried]

you know the thing is when you push a man too far, soon he will start pushing back.


im not a muslim or whatever and im white.also im against faggots and homosexuals.what i present is just a rational argument. if someone pushes you once, nothing will happen, but if he pushes and pushes and pushes , at some point even a mangina will start to push back.

we cant push people and then expect them to stay silent or say "oh please go ahead and fvck my arse as well" no you only get that in a S&M porno not IRL.
we pushed these guys by killing millions in iraq and afghanistan, now they are pushing back, simple

The killer actually had a point.. George Bush and the rest of the government didn't give a damn about us when he went into Iraq. They aren't going to be the ones on the street when the Muslims come for revenge. We are the ones on the street.

 

[twentee]

no, no mass shootings, and all you have to do is eat whatever shyte the gov't (or anyone else) shoves at you. I'll take the guns, any day, over being helpless. Punks can always use poison or homemade explosives to do far more damage than they can do with a gun. Freedom lovers, however, can't get to tyrants very well without guns. That's why the media and govt can't STAND the idea of guns in private hands. They know damned well that they are doing (or want to do) things that they should be shot for.

 

[speed dawg]

Hell, Im sure wed be seeing Vietnamese and North Korean terrorists doing bad things if the West didnt decide to leave them the hell alone and get out of their land. America couldnt win there, so we backed off. I cant see why we dont do the same and get out of Muslim land.

You are a complete leftoid fool. Let me break this down for you....the Middle East has this thing called OIL, that's worth alot of money. Not only do we need this thing called oil to fuel our daily lives, so does the rest of the world now (China, India, etc.). Somebody is going to sell it and make money off of it. If those people are terrorists, well then suddenly the terrorist have a means to launch massive attacks. NOT the other way around. They were plotting terror over there WAY before the US invaded. That Muslim radical sh1t started this whole campaign. You 'tards are so blinded by your idiotic agendas that it's comical. DAMN your ignorance is mind-boggling.

And you couldnt be more wrong about visual punishment. All this would do is give these people more recruiting power, and an even bigger excuse to attack innocent citizens. You think they care about punishment? They are willing to die for their beliefs. Punishment will be no deterrent at all. The consequences of Death, lifelong imprisonment, or torture at Gitmo arent scaring these guys. So why would a public display of punishment do so?

Wrong Gaylan. Fear preserves the order of things. These thugs know they can be jailed in the US and it'd be like a fvcking hotel to them, no matter if they see an independent act. They know it's not consistent. We have too many soft, pansy leftists who want to take care of them. Rehabilitate them. These ****roaches need to be extinguished. By ****roaches, I mean the liberals. They are a bigger problem than the terrorists.

 

[Jaylan]

You are a complete leftoid fool. Let me break this down for you....the Middle East has this thing called OIL, that's worth alot of money. Not only do we need this thing called oil to fuel our daily lives, so does the rest of the world now (China, India, etc.). Somebody is going to sell it and make money off of it. If those people are terrorists, well then suddenly the terrorist have a means to launch massive attacks. NOT the other way around. They were plotting terror over there WAY before the US invaded. That Muslim radical sh1t started this whole campaign. You 'tards are so blinded by your idiotic agendas that it's comical. DAMN your ignorance is mind-boggling.

You sure are ignorant. The US has its own oil, and we can buy it from South America too. Hell, we can buy oil from the Mideast without illegally occupying peoples lands and/or interfering in their governments. Thats the point I was making but you are too foolish to see that. You act as if the grievances the terrorists have arent real. Their reactions may be over the line, but their reasonings for lashing out make plenty sense.

Wrong Gaylan. Fear preserves the order of things. These thugs know they can be jailed in the US and it'd be like a fvcking hotel to them, no matter if they see an independent act. They know it's not consistent. We have too many soft, pansy leftists who want to take care of them. Rehabilitate them. These ****roaches need to be extinguished. By ****roaches, I mean the liberals. They are a bigger problem than the terrorists.

Gitmo is a hotel? lmfao, now Ive heard it all. Stooping to the level of terrorists in no way makes innocent citizens lives safer. It only perpetuates the problem.

And why are you whining about liberals now? First it was race, and now this? How about sticking to the REAL issue. Again, let me repeat it for you yet another time...the issue is radical Islam vs the West. Do you regularly take unrelated issues and use them as a soapbox for calling out liberals, minorities, and homosexuals?

 

[twentee]

until we nuke EVERY Muslim city., tear down every ,mosque and minerat, burn every Koran and kill every muslim male over the age of 4, this crap is just going to get worse. Muslims have been a threat to freedom everywhere they've gone, for 1300+ effing years now. Half measures have never worked against such people.

 

[speed dawg]

we can buy oil from the Mideast without illegally occupying peoples lands and/or interfering in their governments.

Awesome, Gaylan. Now you want to FUND their terrorist campaigns against us? Why don't you just move your fruity little ass over there then?

You act as if the grievances the terrorists have arent real. Their reactions may be over the line, but their reasonings for lashing out make plenty sense.

They are the ones doing the killing. AL QUAEDA you dumb mfer. I don't see whitey over there mowing down kids and flying planes into buildings.

Stop breathing.

 

[speed dawg]

until we nuke EVERY Muslim city., tear down every ,mosque and minerat, burn every Koran and kill every muslim male over the age of 4, this crap is just going to get worse. Muslims have been a threat to freedom everywhere they've gone, for 1300+ effing years now. Half measures have never worked against such people.

Again, I am not advocating genocide, but this type thing isn't that far fetched. Perhaps if we could just quarantine them on one continent somewhere? People love converting to Islam because it tells their dumbasses exactly what they want to hear. Then they all die and burn in hell.

People should do a little reading on Ishmael.

 

[Jaylan]

Awesome, Gaylan. Now you want to FUND their terrorist campaigns against us? Why don't you just move your fruity little ass over there then?

How daft are you?

I originally stated that we should get the hell out of Muslim land and have nothing to do with them. I then stated I cannot see why we dont do that...which wasnt to be taken literally. I know we dont just leave because of humanitarian interests, bolstering own defense, Israel, and foreign oil. But I personally dont give a crap about all that.

You took my question literally and brought up oil. I responded by saying the USA has its own oil, and that we can strike deals with South American oil producers and tell the Mideast to bugger off. Its about time we drilled on our shores anyways.

Realistically knowing the USA will never do this, I said "Hell, we can buy oil from the Mideast without illegally occupying peoples lands and/or interfering in their governments." Anyone with a modicum of reading comprehension skills would take what I said to mean, "We should be able to do business with the Middle East without overstepping any respectful boundaries"

How in the world does anything I said mean I feel we should fund terrorists? You were the one to bring up oil in the first place! How in the world is my recognition of the USA's apparent need for Mideast oil, mean that I want to to fund terrorists. Its pathetic how nonsensical your arguments are becoming. Nevermind the childish insults. Grow up kid. Youre 32? Id like to think a 32 year old could carry on a debate in a manner dissimilar to an 11 year old.

They are the ones doing the killing. AL QUAEDA you dumb mfer. I don't see whitey over there mowing down kids and flying planes into buildings.

Stop breathing.

Western powers do no killings abroad? I think many people in all corners of the globe would argue against that. The USA for one has helped fund guerrillas, coups, illegal invaded sovereign nations, setup bases in other lands even when the locals did not want it...all the while many innocents have died at our hands.

The terrorists are jerk-bags of course...but that doesnt mean our governments hands are clean.

Heres a great example; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007_Baghdad_airstrike

When innocent people die, and children are injured or killed as well....your last little argument becomes patently false. Im all for seeking out the enemy and killing him where he stands...but not at the cost of innocent lives, especially if it becomes friendly fire. (a couple of guys who worked for Reuters were killed!) That Baghdad airstrike is an example of such. Nevermind the many drone strikes which do the same.

These things give terrorists their reasoning for killing our own innocents.

 

[ThreeStorms]

until we nuke EVERY Muslim city., tear down every ,mosque and minerat, burn every Koran and kill every muslim male over the age of 4, this crap is just going to get worse. Muslims have been a threat to freedom everywhere they've gone, for 1300+ effing years now. Half measures have never worked against such people.

What an eloquent, intelligent, sensible and mature statement. Your mother must be proud of you.

 

[FairShake]

Islamists come in all colors.

But a disproportionate number of British and American Blacks have fancied radical Islam. And that fancy IS tied to race!

 

[Jaylan]

Islamists come in all colors.

But a disproportionate number of British and American Blacks have fancied radical Islam. And that fancy IS tied to race!

Last I checked, the radical Muslims who blow people up and hijack planes have not been black Americans. Theyve been largely middle eastern.

Now, the Nation of Islam, is predominantly black American Islamic movement. But they are in no way tied to Jihadi terrorism. So lets not start reaching to try and tie blacks in with terrorists.

For the most part, most terrorists we have encountered have been Arab and Caucus region terrorists.

 

[backbreaker]

But Jaylan, realize that these locals often supported communist-like movements whose only goal was to overthrow freely democrated elected governments, and most of these movements were a direct threat to the Government of the United States. The US isn't just going to sit around and watch a bunch of genocidal banana dictators set up enemy communist regimes around it whose sole goal is the overthrow of capitalist, democratic systems like its own.



War isn't nice, it's not pretty. People die, that is the nature of war, and some of them will die very unfortunate and even unnecessary deaths fought during the course of the fog of war. The video showing the killing of what turned out to be unarmed civilians is pretty dramatic, but it's a very narrow picture of the events going on. These helicopters were out to save American lives on the ground, and several of the people in that picture appeared to be carrying weapons. We can't always fight wars by stopping the opposing soldiers and then asking them for identification and conducting a cross examination as to why they are there so we can conclude what their true intentions are.

I agree with the article on Islam, muslim governments freak out when a depiction is made of their main prophet but when muslim extremists carry out plans to slit the throats of thousands of christian children, as they did at Beslan in Russia in 2004, then all you hear from them is crickets. There is something inherently wrong with Islam, and this needs to be recognized. Change needs to be made from within, or they will continue to have their cities bombed and razed to the ground.

The United States is in a bit of a quandry (I am not American by the way). When it does not act, as it did not during the rapid genocide in Rwanda, it is made to look like a country that sits back and does nothing while genocide unfolds. When they do get involved, as they did in Iraq, they are painted as warmongers who are only out to get money from oil.

The reasons the US went into Iraq are numerous: This is an Iraq under Saddam that was destabilizing an entire region. A region that supplied a vast amount of oil, which is vital to industry all over the world so people like you and me can work and put food on our tables for our families. Can you imagine if all of the profits from the enormously lucrative oil industry were found in the pockets of these extremist Islamic groups? Can you imagine an entire middle east full of little mini-Irans? And even though the US is the world's third biggest producer of oil, this is still not enough to feed its demand. Saddam invaded Iran, he invaded Kuwait, he used chemical weapons against his own Kurdish populations, and he supported terrorism even before the 1991 Gulf War by providing headquarters, operating bases, training camps, and other support to terrorist groups fighting the governments of neighboring Turkey and Iran, as well as to hard-line Palestinian groups.

This guy clearly had to go. Even the 1991 Gulf War didn't set him straight: even after that he continued to defy UN security council resolutions. The guy was setting a standard that all defiant dictators after him could follow, ie that they can continue to destabilize entire regions and kill millions of their own citizens without having to worry about any kind of intervention.

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to this day you will never see me critize bush 2.0 for taking out saddam. i agree he had to go. for various reasons. I didn't have a problem with the war. I have a problem with the prolonged period we were there but not the war itself

i have a big problem with us looking and doing nothing about the genocide in Rowanda. You either are a defender of rights or you aren't you can't pick and choose which people you are going to protect.

Even to this day you hear about Iraq and Iran all the time and there is STILL genocide going on in Africa on mass levels and you don't hear jack **** about it on the news. I don't know one regular person that knows that Sudan for instance is now actually 2 countries as of like a year ago give or after 20 years of rape, and genocide by the Sudannese soliders on non Sudanese nationals in the country, not a peep in the news anywhere.

My big thing is either be the defender or don't. It's like whipping your child when he curses you out one day and walking in the other room and closing the door when he does it the next day

 

[user43770]

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to this day you will never see me critize bush 2.0 for taking out saddam. i agree he had to go. for various reasons. I didn't have a problem with the war. I have a problem with the prolonged period we were there but not the war itself

i have a big problem with us looking and doing nothing about the genocide in Rowanda. You either are a defender of rights or you aren't you can't pick and choose which people you are going to protect.

Even to this day you hear about Iraq and Iran all the time and there is STILL genocide going on in Africa on mass levels and you don't hear jack **** about it on the news. I don't know one regular person that knows that Sudan for instance is now actually 2 countries as of like a year ago give or after 20 years of rape, and genocide by the Sudannese soliders on non Sudanese nationals in the country, not a peep in the news anywhere.

My big thing is either be the defender or don't. It's like whipping your child when he curses you out one day and walking in the other room and closing the door when he does it the next day

There can be no doubt as to which party affiliation I personally prefer, but two former Democratic presidents, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, spoke eloquently about one of the many good achievements of former President George W. Bush, something for which he is never praised by the mainstream media or recognized by most Americans: He was a hero for Africa.

Here are just a few reasons how that is so: the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), the African Growth and Opportunity Act, anti-malaria and education programs and, as Mr. Carter rightly pointed out, the peace treaty between southern and northern Sudan and the subsequent founding of the new nation of South Sudan in 2011. I was in South Sudan in January, and I can tell you that the citizens of that new nation know exactly who is mostly responsible for their new country, freedom and safety from conflict: George W. Bush. I had a meeting with the vice president of the country while there and asked him why President Salva Kiir is always photographed wearing a black cowboy hat. His answer? The hat was a gift from President Bush and means everything to him.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/1/george-w-bush-a-hero-to-africa/#ixzz2UJNd0Yx3
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

Thought this was relevant.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Sorry N00b but if anyone is the brainwashed idiot, its you.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/19/us.terror.charge/index.html

http://www.sfgate.com/world/article/Anwar-al-Awlaki-exhorts-Muslims-to-kill-Americans-3246535.php

http://fromlaw2grace.com/2012/09/12/obama-fiddles-while-radical-muslims-kill-americans/

http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=42778&page=3

http://www.iris.org.il/blog/archives/757-Pan-European-Arab-Muslim-Gang-Rape-Epidemic.html

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/09/muslim_cleric_accused_of_tryin.html

Trying to kill a retarded girl because she accidentally burned the Quran...

Ya religion of peace my ass.

 

[FairShake]

Last I checked, the radical Muslims who blow people up and hijack planes have not been black Americans. Theyve been largely middle eastern.

Actually Black converts have been involved in several attacks or attempted attacks on the United States and UK. At least one of the suspects in this case was a British-born Islamic convert.

For examples in America check out Rodney Hampton-el of the first WTC attack, Jamaat ul-Fuqra, Hassan Abujihaad who detailed ship movements in the Middle East to an online forum of Islamists, Derrick Shareef who tried to blow up a mall in Chicago, and a few others.

Now, the Nation of Islam, is predominantly black American Islamic movement. But they are in no way tied to Jihadi terrorism. So lets not start reaching to try and tie blacks in with terrorists.

For the most part, most terrorists we have encountered have been Arab and Caucus region terrorists.

Actually the Chechen bombers were the first Caucasus region terrorists encountered by the United States. They have been mostly busy fighting their war in Russia as well as running drugs into Europe.

Secondly the Nation of Islam has absolutely been in involved in terrorism. The Zebra Murders and the Beltway Snipers are the most famous examples but during the 70s they were very busy killing Americans in gruesome ways.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/americanattacks.htm

Plus a couple of the names I named above like Rodney Hampton-El STARTED as Nation of Islam members before branching off. It's all related.

 

[Jaylan]

Actually Black converts have been involved in several attacks or attempted attacks on the United States and UK. At least one of the suspects in this case was a British-born Islamic convert.

For examples in America check out Rodney Hampton-el of the first WTC attack, Jamaat ul-Fuqra, Hassan Abujihaad who detailed ship movements in the Middle East to an online forum of Islamists, Derrick Shareef who tried to blow up a mall in Chicago, and a few others.

Citations please?

Nevermind the fact that White Americans have converted and betrayed their country as well. We just killed one not too long ago and it created a big deal in the media. Even with that being said, American citizens participating in radical Islamic terrorism is very very rare, be they whatever race. Stop reaching for something that isnt there.

This story isnt about black people, yet losers are trying to make it so. Its about radical jihadists, and those people come in all shades of color.

Actually the Chechen bombers were the first Caucasus region terrorists encountered by the United States. They have been mostly busy fighting their war in Russia as well as running drugs into Europe.

When I said "we", I meant the West for the most part....and to a smaller extent, I meant "we" to mean non-Muslims.

Secondly the Nation of Islam has absolutely been in involved in terrorism. The Zebra Murders and the Beltway Snipers are the most famous examples but during the 70s they were very busy killing Americans in gruesome ways.

And what about conservative Christains who bomb abortion clinics, snipe doctors, and beat up or kill gays? Thats terrorism too, largely committed by white people. At the end of the day, Americans arent much involved in any sort of terrorism. The fact that you have to reach 40 years into the past to try to make a point is laughable.

The Nation of Islam WAS NOT Jihadist. They were radical nationalists who were obsessed with black power and the so called white devil. They werent about Islam vs the West, which is the way Jihadis think. And nothing they did was even on the same scale or with the same reasons as radical jihad.

Its ignorant and disingenuous for you to try to connect the two. Especially when this case has NOTHING to do with race. And also when the reality is that most past and current radicals Islamists are not black. The Nation of Islam is not even accepted by mainstream Muslims. And like I said, their reasoning for the crappy things they did....like assassinating Malcolm X...had nothing to do with their Islamic beliefs. It was all about power to them....preferably black power.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/americanattacks.htm

Plus a couple of the names I named above like Rodney Hampton-El STARTED as Nation of Islam members before branching off. It's all related.

Eh, wrong. Why are you only painting black folks when it comes to this issue? Muslims arent even mostly black. And the ones whove attacked the West and Russia, have largely been Middle Eastern, North African, or Caucus. All people who can be racially classified as white.

I wonder why guys like you and OP run at the chance to paint blacks in a bad light when this story has NOTHING to do with race. Says a lot about both of you.