Where/what will you be in 100 billion years from now?

[bigjohnson]

Translation: I don't have any reason to base my belief on, really, I just feel that's the way it is.

Which is cool, but throwing a tantrum isn't.

 

[Ever onward]

ahaha :crackup: Man you think Earth is gonna be around for THAT long? daiiiimnnnn.... My man, this Earth going bye bye 200 years MAX (prob only 100 +- years imo) But hey... even if that is what happens to your "remains", dont you believe in an afterlife Dilllberrrto?

What powerful creatures you must think us humans are if we could destroy the whole planet within 100 years!

As others have said in this post this planet of ours has been around 4.5 BILLION years. The Earth has been inhabited by humans for only what, 50,000 years at most? We are nothing but a blink of an eye in the grander scheme of things.

Us destroy the Earth? Imagine that!

Let's say that all the nuclear weapons on the planet went off and the Earth was radioactively hot for a million years. Eventually it would cool off again. Life would survive somewhere....maybe bacteria frozen in the soil. Life would begin all over again.

Or what if the ozone layer gets completely depleted and UV radiation goes unchecked? Radiation will cause life to mutate and grow. Human beings may not survive but new species of life will pop up.

Make no mistake about it: We do not have the power to destroy this planet, only ourselves. Human life could disappear in the blink of an eye and the Earth won't miss us.

 

[bigjohnson]

Life would begin all over again. .... Earth won't miss us.

I agree completely with your post, but something important I'd like to emphasize is that EVEN IF LIFE CEASED ON EARTH FOREVER the Earth is still gonna be around. Destroyed indeed.

 

[joekerr31]

in a billion years i'll be your boss and you'll sweep the universal floors when i tell you to.

 

[StevenR]

100 billion years is a loooong time, but I think what you are getting at is what is our ultimate destiny? I see one of two things happening to us. One is that we destroy ourselves or go back to the Middle Ages in the next century, or we take control of our own evolution.
To elaborate, I think that technology will make evolution obsolete. The combination of engineering matter at a molecular level combined with advanced computing and artificial intelligence will not only allow humans to cure most diseases including aging(possibly within 50 years), but I think that we will engineer ourselves to be whatever we want to be. Want a 400 IQ, or a 4000IQ? Advanced Artificial intelligence combined with human intelligence enhancement will allow technology to progress even faster. Eventually our posthuman selves will take complete control of evolutionary processes, making natural selection obsolete. We will build Dyson spheres, controlling the energy of the solar system, and in the distant future possibly the entire universe, making the universe a greater intelligence. So I think if all intelligent life doesn't destroy itself then it is the ultimate destiny of that intelligent life to tame the universe and possibly even beyond.

 

[bbestar]

If i took one more step and died, I would be in heaven present with the Lord Christ Jesus.

Eternity has no time, I'll just be there.


You my friend don't even have time to worry about 1 year or a week, any minute now you could be one step away from eternity, question is where will you go.

 

[Climax]

Translation: I don't have any reason to base my belief on, really, I just feel that's the way it is.

Which is cool, but throwing a tantrum isn't.

ahahaha.. my man, I'm just reeeheeeheeely over guys like you who think they know everything and think the world revolves around them. Look how you presume this and that when really I don’t care what you say or think no1 is reprimanding anyone for having their opinion, like i said, take your off point discussions somewhere else, as I don’t appreciate KBJ's spamming my thread with their ego and assumptions.

 

[Ever onward]

ahahaha.. my man, I'm just reeeheeeheeely over guys like you who think they know everything and think the world revolves around them. Look how you presume this and that when really I don’t care what you say or think no1 is reprimanding anyone for having their opinion, like i said, take your off point discussions somewhere else, as I don’t appreciate KBJ's spamming my thread with their ego and assumptions.

Ugh, he was just asking you where you were coming from with your beliefs. You made all of these claims and assumptions about human beings having a purpose here and you expected everyone to adopt your beliefs as gospel and elaborate on YOUR beliefs.

On the other hand if what you were stating was just your opinion, then fine come out and say that and the discussion can continue from there.

 

[Climax]

100 billion years is a loooong time, but I think what you are getting at is what is our ultimate destiny? I see one of two things happening to us. One is that we destroy ourselves or go back to the Middle Ages in the next century, or we take control of our own evolution.
To elaborate, I think that technology will make evolution obsolete. The combination of engineering matter at a molecular level combined with advanced computing and artificial intelligence will not only allow humans to cure most diseases including aging(possibly within 50 years), but I think that we will engineer ourselves to be whatever we want to be. Want a 400 IQ, or a 4000IQ? Advanced Artificial intelligence combined with human intelligence enhancement will allow technology to progress even faster. Eventually our posthuman selves will take complete control of evolutionary processes, making natural selection obsolete. We will build Dyson spheres, controlling the energy of the solar system, and in the distant future possibly the entire universe, making the universe a greater intelligence. So I think if all intelligent life doesn't destroy itself then it is the ultimate destiny of that intelligent life to tame the universe and possibly even beyond.

Wow very unique theory... And at least you get the point of this thread.. which is to voice and discuss opinions about what will happen to us as individual beings... as appose to some smartasses here that changed the thread to "what will happen to Earth?" and "How’s your grammar today?" or "Prove your opinion to me because the world revolves around me and I am so cool!"

And on that note.. I would like to respond to your post, StevenR: I Think that life for us really just goes in "stages" per se... And I also don’t really think that Earth has much to do with our futures. I think that the next life for us will be a lot more spiritual and very different to "life" as we know it now. Earth is just a tine little pin spot, IF that on the scale of the universe etc.. So I see Earth as almost a "pit stop" where I get "fixed" (fulfill my own personal purpose as an individual" and then move on and get back "in the race" to the top... The top being the "ultimate goal", whatever that may be.

I would also like to comment about Earth and the comments that were made about it, but I don’t want to get carried away and stray off the topic, so I will rather wait for an appropriate thread for that.

Future of the Earth and "YOUR OWN FUTURE as an individual being with your own individual purpose and journey" are 2 very separate things/discussion topics.

 

[Climax]

hmmm...

Ugh, he was just asking you where you were coming from with your beliefs. You made all of these claims and assumptions about human beings having a purpose here and you expected everyone to adopt your beliefs as gospel and elaborate on YOUR beliefs.

On the other hand if what you were stating was just your opinion, then fine come out and say that and the discussion can continue from there.

Another one that doesn’t read the thread properly and jumps to conclusions? tsk tsk tsk... I mentioned many times and stressed the point that its an opinion, I'm not asking anyone to explain themselves if they do not wish to.. I gathered my opinion with life experience and speaking with wise / spiritual people, books, and everything else that I know.. I take all this knowledge, I mix it with what makes sense to me and I come up with an opinion... I see myself as a very spiritual person, I study Psychology/the mind/the bible, and like to exchange opinions with people that have the same or similar interests.. And the main point of this thread was to pretty much just gather up some opinions and see what other people thought... and then we could discuss and have a mature conversation on a mature subject... I don’t care about Earth (in this thread), I don’t care if my or anyone else’s grammar is 100%, and I am not going to look down at anyone's opinion, because I respect everyone's opinion, unfortunately it doesn’t work both ways it seems.

Now let’s stop the arguing and get back on topic?

Ever onward: My 1st reason for my claims are, as I mentioned before in this thread, that all religions as far as I know speak of a next life and a higher purpose etc.. So that’s my 1st and most important reason. Religion is something that has been here for as long as anyone can remember, and the one thing that all religions have in common is that they all believe that life does not end for us on Earth (only ends as a physical human). Another fact that makes me think / believe in life after this life as humens is that there are so many cases where people claim to either have had an outer body experience, or had some sort of spiritual contact etc. And how do you explain those people that can tell you things that would otherwise be impossible without the help of some spiritual being? I know at least one person that I believe has the ability to interact with spiritual beings. A lot of people are still skeptical about this whole concept, and I don’t blame them, it’s hard to believe something you are completely oblivious to, if I had not had the chance to speak with some of these people I would have also had a hard time believing it completely.

But this is just my opinion, I'm not asking anyone/everyone to agree with me or have the same outlook, but this is my opinion and this is what I think given the knowledge and wisdom that I do at this point in my life. My opinion may change in the future, but for now this is how I see things.

 

[StevenR]

I am not a metaphysical dualist like you are, and I think it is up to humanity and other intelligent beings to bring meaning to our own existence and that of the universe. I also think that we have not experienced as humans the full possible range of experiences of consciousness, but that the solution to break free of our limitations is not a spiritual one, but rather through using science and technology to improve ourselves physically and mentally to make us into beings vastly superior to our present state. Logically, there is no compelling reason to believe in the idea of a soul that will continue its existence past our physical lives anymore then there is reason to believe in the flying spaghetti monster. It is wishful thinking, and the idea of a God that is in possession all three characteristics of omnipresence, omnipotence, and omniscience is logically inconsistent with the state of the world we live in, especially if you are a moral realist/absolutist.

 

[bigjohnson]

Dupe

 

[bigjohnson]

Another one that doesn’t read the thread properly .....

If something is clearly written it won't be easily misread. You can't start throwing words together that sound sort of like what you think you mean and expect people to all read the same meaning into it. A great example is your collaborate versus collaborate SNAFU. Apparently you either don't know what collaborate means or something, but when you toss in random words that don't make sense in the context they're used it's not conducive to others forming a clear and uniform understanding of your intent.

It also pisses me off just a tiny bit because it's a pet peeve of mine, and I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings by taking a mocking tone. That aside, you might think about being clear and sticking to words whose meaning you understand.

My personal sin is usually being too terse, but I acknowledge and am working on it.


On the original topic, I believe that if civilization continues to advance we will eventually reverse engineer ourselves and learn to extend our lives tremendously. Whether we can escape the end of our star is a question further down the road that I'm not sure I can comment on meaningfully. At the 100,000,000,000 year mark the Milky Way galaxy will look a lot different. My astronomy is a little rusty but I wouldn't be shocked if entropy is starting to make our region of the Universe a very cold place by then.

 

[Interceptor]

This is very interesting.
Climax, you might like this.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5651230631565854557

 

[Climax]

This is very interesting.
Climax, you might like this.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5651230631565854557

Good find, thank you Interceptor I'm limited on bandwidth at the moment, but I will probably watch all those video's sometime soon

Thanks again for the link/idea!