When You Are Ugly...

ImprovingJuan

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imagine that all girls tell you are a 5 in the looks scale or even below, what options do you have to compete with other better looking guys?

i know how they treat me and why they treat me this way, i created 2 profiles one with my real pics and other with pics of a good looking guy. talked to lots of girls i think you know how they treated me in comparison to the guy i created. when knowing i was the same guy they told i am 5, not ugly, not hot, just nice (i have a nice face, i guess it means im not attractive).


so what do i do now, quit the dating game and accept the fact the im going to be single. i dont see many other options.
 

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Yes, dont try to improve, quit dating game, go to the jungle and live with gorillas
 

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Bro, do things that make you happy, find new hobbies, and focus on your carreer. Go to the gym and do what what your nickname says. Improve everday. Say what you wanna say, be a leader not a follower and enjoy life, laugh and have fun, girls wanna have fun so make sure your life is about that. Look at the big players in the world with the ladies, their life is about fun and guess what the ladies are around them. If you have the right positive mindset, use the DJ bible as guideline in the dating game you will get the dates and end up havin sex with the girls you want. If you say they give you a 5 all hopes are up bro just keep improving yourself, chase your dreams and the ladies will come.

Work hard play hard, im sure you will land the dates. And forget about online dating, go out with friends, and approach the ladies, every rejection is a lesson. Ive been rejected 100+ times and I never gave up, the ladies came when I improved my game, it's a numbers game just take action and quit this kind of posts, rather eat clean, go to the gym, study and improve everday.
 

ImprovingJuan

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its all about the loooks after all, i did this experiment and it shows that. its nothing about confidence
 

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I have tons of fat, ugly friends with the right positive mindset who are even AFC as hell tho they are fun to hang out with, give out positive energy. Some are funny, some approach regardless, taking action and are immune to rejection.

Most of these positive guys I know have girlfriends for years and even f8ck around sometimes when their girls are out of town or anything.

It's not about looks only, good looks will make it easier but the positive mindset, being yourself, having fun everday and giving girls a chance to join them having fun is what does the trick.

Believe me I lived it and seen it with my own eyes. Fat guys with bigger tits then their girls take action and it works out for them
 

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With your attitude, you're never going to amount to anything. Every thread you post is nothing but negativity towards yourself. People have given you good advice on what you should be doing. Yet, you ignore their advice and continue writing these negative threads.

Writing negative threads isn't going to help you. People here aren't going to care about your success or failings. YOU need to figure out what you need to do to succeed and apply yourself to get it done.

I'm not trying to insult you, but nobody here can help you, we can give you advice, but you have to help yourself.
 

ImprovingJuan

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they say its not the body but the face. i can go to the gym and improve nothing.

i have this fat, unattractive girl who's interested, but she's not my type and i dont want to be with her. i thought i could get better but i was wrong. better to be alone than to be with someone you dont like.

im out for undetermined time

and yes LOOKS are the KEY. if you dont have an attractive face you're OUT of the game.
 

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ImprovingJuan said:
its all about the loooks after all, i did this experiment and it shows that. its nothing about confidence
Scientific research is finding that to be the case. I think you're only hope is to find a girl close to your looks level who wants a relationship and realizes her real relationship market value does not equal her inflated sexual market value. where you might find that I'm not sure, but probably not at bars or online dating.

What's even worse the findings indicate that women know they are being untruthful about downplaying how much physical looks is important to them.

http://sirtyrionlannister.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/women-prioritize-statuswealth-or-attractiveness-empirical-approach/

1. Hadjistavropoulos et al (1994) proved that there is a mistaken social construct tend to underestimation of the role of physical attractiveness in male mate value. 80 female undergraduates were shown profiles containing photographs and information about the personalities of potential male dating partners and were asked to state the dating desirability of each target person. Subsequently, were asked to introspect about the factors that affected their dating preferences and they tended to intentionally underreport the impact of physical attractiveness on their preferences. Later, they were said that they were connected to a lie-detector polygraph, they produced more accurate overall introspective reports, admitted a main extreme influence by the physical attractiveness of the targets. It seems that female mindsets are very influenced by a social or cultural taboo. Women tend to underestimate in questionnaires the importance of male attractiveness. They are conditioned, consciously or unconsciously, to express a politically correct choice and thus they do not wish to be perceived as “shallow”.

2. Weiderman and Dubois (1998) have found men accurately indicated that the physical attractiveness of the targets was the most important characteristic that influenced their desirability ratings, whereas women inaccurately indicated that desired level of relationship commitment was their most important factor, when, in fact, it was one of the least important factors behaviorally. Sprecher (1989) found similar results, in that women inaccurately assessed the role of physical attractiveness in their own ratings of a target man. The women in Sprecher’s study reported that expressiveness was the most important factor in their choice, although it was the least important factor behaviorally. Physical attractiveness was the most important factor that actually influenced their ratings. The results of these two studies suggest that women’s self-reported preferences may not match their actual choices. Because it is still considered shallow and inappropriate for women to say that physical attractiveness is very important in their choices, those women may have engaged in impression management. Theory is that women do know what they want, but that when asked, they need to give answers that are acceptable to society. If so, women might misstate their preferences more often because there is more pressure on them to engage in impression management and to give the socially-desirable response.

Therefore, mate choice research is faced with a solid body of theoretical models and many supportive empirical hints from a variety of methodologically limited paradigms on the one hand, but a dearth of sufficiently ecologically valid studies to evaluate their predictions on the other hand. But an interesting solution to this predicament has recently appeared with the emergence of “online-dating” and speed-dating”.

Online dating and speed dating are real-life tests, with external and ecological validity and both give support for the main role of attractiveness in dating selection:
 

ImprovingJuan

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goldengoose said:
With your attitude, you're never going to amount to anything. Every thread you post is nothing but negativity towards yourself. People have given you good advice on what you should be doing. Yet, you ignore their advice and continue writing these negative threads.

Writing negative threads isn't going to help you. People here aren't going to care about your success or failings. YOU need to figure out what you need to do to succeed and apply yourself to get it done.

I'm not trying to insult you, but nobody here can help you, we can give you advice, but you have to help yourself.
yes the fabled CONFIDENCE factor
 

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Stagger Lee said:
Scientific research is finding that to be the case. I think you're only hope is to find a girl close to your looks level who wants a relationship and realizes her real relationship market value does not equal her inflated sexual market value. where you might find that I'm not sure, but probably not at bars or online dating.

What's even worse the findings indicate that women know they are being untruthful about downplaying how much physical looks is important to them.

http://sirtyrionlannister.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/women-prioritize-statuswealth-or-attractiveness-empirical-approach/
this


when you are in online dating with so many women and none gives 2 ****s about you because your genetics arent good , you know you are doomed.
 

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ImprovingJuan said:
yes the fabled CONFIDENCE factor
You're not even trying.

I know ugly guys that I went to school with. They worked hard to get good jobs and to become sucessful. They were able to get women based on their success. My boss is ugly as sh1t. He's banging 8's and 9's because he applied himself.The chicks banging him want to be in entertainment.

Most people you see are average or below average in looks when you go out. some are even really ugly. If they were able to find someone, so can you. Not everybody is going to get a hot woman. That's life. But if you improve yourself with a good job being a success you will have better women available to you.
 

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goldengoose said:
You're not even trying.

I know ugly guys that I went to school with. They worked hard to get good jobs and to become sucessful. They were able to get women based on their success. My boss is ugly as sh1t. He's banging 8's and 9's because he applied himself.The chicks banging him want to be in entertainment.

Most people you see are average or below average in looks when you go out. some are even really ugly. If they were able to find someone, so can you. Not everybody is going to get a hot woman. That's life. But if you improve yourself with a good job being a success you will have better women available to you.
told you that i have a fat unnatractive chick interested. but i dont like fat chicks, for that i prefer to be alone. why should i stay with someone i dont like? so i wont be alone anymore?
 

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This was kinda depressing to read.

Dude you need to have a positive outlook.

First and foremost hit the gym. Educate yourself on bodybuilding nutrition, trainin, etc.

Build a sick body.

Stop fapping, stop watching porn.

Focus on yourself positively.

Get a good hair style, and stay well groomed.

I'll edit with more later.
 

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Build your body up and show it off...get a good hair style or shave your head depending on what look you want to tke......i always see ripped ugly as hell guys pulling super hot sluts....
 

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OP i suggest professional help. i've seen your picture and you are nowhere near ugly.

you are depressed hence why you see everything through a glass darkly. you need more than a new haircut - your brain needs rewiring. no joke.
 

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I see ugly dudes with chicks all the time....average joes, if you are a "5" you should be ok
 
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