When to Lie To a Chick

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Smfh!

It's obvious that Rascal and Wright either have reading comprehension problems or they didn't read my thread in its entirety. Either way, go back and re-read it, sleep on it, then maybe a light bulb will go off in the morning.

As far as Harry is concern this Rascal muthaf@cka has selective hearing because he missed the part when Harry said that when ole girl contacted him out of the blue and when Harry stated that when ole girl asked him was he f@cking with anybody else, he tempted to lie and say he wasn't, then he decided against it and told old girl the truth. Before you take anybody to task on this muthaf*cka, (especially ole Rex,) make damn sure you know what f*ck is you're talking about.
 
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I reread it and I do agree with some of what you say like not telling a chick that shes the only girl you're seeing etc. I have a feeling your ego will not let you hear what I am about to say but I will say it anyway because you need to read it. This isn't an attack, it's harshly worded advice. The glaringly obvious issues are these:

1. That Honey chick even though she had interest in you wouldnt give it up until you told some crappy lie to finally get her into bed...or so you thought. There's a difference between telling her you're with a chick if she directly asks(she did not) and bringing it up directly. You probably didn't realise that she would have banged you anyway, surely you could have figured that out? What you said was a catalyst but it probably would have happened if you met up with her and made a move anyway.

2. You've been a member here since 2005 and you're still advising guys to lie their way into bed. That's lame as fvck. You blast other guys for doing various other things but you cant see the wood through the trees. Someone needs to light a match up your ar5e about this because in all honesty you should be way past talking about banging a girl it took you 10 years to smash. It can take 30 minutes to bang a girl and you're talking about 10 years. You know you'd lament any other guy for doing the same thing. Where are your options? Spinning plates and all that...after nearly 10 years on the site you thought you would actually have other options rather than having to consider lying as a tool. I see the point you were getting at, let her know you have options but the way you present it could have the opposite effect simply because you're volunteering the info too freely. I'm surprised it worked, I'd almost say fair play but I would not class this as something to use consistently.

3. You're too stubborn. I doubt you will take anything I say on board. You seem to be forever talking about the same 4 chicks. You're stuck in the past. In my opinion it's because you're not getting what you want in the present so you're clinging to the past and the odd glory story. Fvck, you posted about something that happened in 1997, sh!t I was 5 years old then. Got anything more recent? Get some new tail. Put everything you've read about over the years into action, it'll be worth it. The only reason why you wouldn't do this is because you're scared because the pvssy is on a pedestal or things aren't working out for you. There's nothing wrong with things not working out, it happens to everyone and that's why we're here but it's the attitude you have with it which probably the reason why you're not at the point where you want to be.

4. You don't practice what you preach. I read through your journal thread to make sure I wasn't being unfair but it's true, you broke your own rules(and failed) with that fat Dominican chick, she was a 19 yr old single mother who smoked pot. You broke your own rule yet you still chastise other guys on here for similar offences. We all need tough love. Flakey chicks, stalking, hardly the life of a pimp or a veteran of the board. Another issue I saw was that you seem to completely analysis every chick before anything happens. I know you're doing it because it's like a military thing but the problem with it is that in your mind she has become to prize and I'd add in none of your reports do you inject any sexuality. I have rapport with my mum, it means fvck all.

5. Read your own advice and implement it because most of it is actually decent. It's much easier to be inactive and come up with a million excuses then put yourself in the firing line. Stop posting things about the past, take the advice that you have and put it into a new context(as in somewhere this decade) because you will be able to refine it accordingly. There are things I took for gospel 12 months ago, which I would slightly change today because I've had new experiences that altered my opinions.


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Mr Wright said:
1. That Honey chick even though she had interest in you wouldnt give it up until you told some crappy lie to finally get her into bed...or so you thought. There's a difference between telling her you're with a chick if she directly asks(she did not) and bringing it up directly.
One day, ole Rex is going to have to give a detailed account his and "HONEY'S," relationship in chronological order. I neglected to include one important facet to this particular story. It wasn't my intention to f*ck her a$$, actually it was quite the opposite. I wanted her to leave me the f*ck alone.

At this point in time, Rex had grown tired of "HONEY'S," shenanigans and her incredibly large sense of entitlement. I figured that by telling her that I going to f*ck somebody else, then she would leave me alone, but as I previously stated the opposite happened. With "HONEY," I had even gone as far as to let my female classmates answer my phone when she called. Instead of getting upset, she would want to know who the chick was and in addition to a detailed account of our sexual exploits. It literally took me six months of not taking "HONEY'S," calls and I think that she's finally gotten the idea that I ya boy ain't f*ckin' with her. Either that or shes gotten got a boyfriend or lost my number, whatever the reason, she hasn't called me in month and has yet to call me in January, for which I'm very glad.

There's a reason why they call this "seduction sh*t, The Game." It is a game of sorts and cold irony is that WOMEN dictate the parameters and rules in which the game will be played.

Lying to a chick is tell her you own a janitorial firm, when you're merely a janitor. Doing some of the things Tom Leykis suggested like having business cards made up saying you're a film producer, driving to a housing development with mansions under construction and pointing to house, saying that "x," house is under construction is yours, or lying about you're income.

Giving a woman the impression that other women find you attractive is no different than having a hundred FB friends that never actually see, it's a form of social proof. Women have deemed it odd if men don't have other around them. They're going to wonder what's wrong with the guy. It only benefits me if the chick thinks that I'm in demand.


Mr Wright said:
You probably didn't realise that she would have banged you anyway, surely you could have figured that out? What you said was a catalyst but it probably would have happened if you met up with her and made a move anyway.
No it wouldn't and this wasn't for a lack of trying on my part.

Mr Wright said:
2. You've been a member here since 2005 and you're still advising guys to lie their way into bed.
No I haven't and you need to find the thread where I did. The only thing that I've told dudes not to be honest about is plate spinning.

Mr Wright said:
you should be way past talking about banging a girl it took you 10 years to smash.
You're right in that I should have left "HONEY," alone a long time ago, but she would always call, (not that's it's an excuse,) maybe if I had other options, I wouldn't have dealt with her, who knows. However, she would always be the one who initiated contact. Even after the two other times I went bad on her fat a$$, for some reason she'd call. It was only after she told me what she told me I was like "F*ck it," irony this was after she decided to act like an adult and start f*ckin' ya boy on the reg.

Mr Wright said:
You know you'd lament any other guy for doing the same thing.
Because I know what will lead to and how it will leave you feeling. Some dudes just need a strong talking to because they're doing things that defies logic. Even at my worst, I wouldn't have done some of this sh*t that some of these cats are doing. These dudes are in need of an intervention and counseling. Use Rex as an example, don't make the the mistakes he's made and do the things he's done right.

Also, some of these dudes know what they need to do, but the Beta in them is telling them otherwise, in that case a harsh dose of reality will. Then you have to figure that Rex is brutal and crass muthaf*cka and this is how he talks.


Mr Wright said:
Where are your options? Spinning plates and all that...after nearly 10 years on the site you thought you would actually have other options rather than having to consider lying as a tool.
Finances has always been a problem for me, (not that is an excuse,) when I joined the site, soon after, I moved back home to California. My goal once in CA was to get back to NY ASAP. One of the things that hinder my sarging in The Bay was a lack of transportation. The entire two years that I was there I didn't have a car. Anybody who knows any thing about areas without decent subways systems, knows you need a car to travel. I didn't have a car to get to places that females would be also, I was incredibly depressed while I was in California, not to excuse not sarging because often times you have to make the best of your situation.

Upon coming back to New York, I was stuck in a f*cked up job for 2 1/2 years. Again, (not using it as an excuse,) I felt that I would have been better for me to sarge clubs and what not, the thing was I worked on Friday nights, and I had to at work at 10 A.M. on Saturday and Sunday. (Which is why on some of my field reports you see me violating the rule against sarging co-workers. It was because I literally didn't give a f*ck about losing the job.

I had feel behind in my rent, so all of my money was going to catching up on my rent. This job had really hindered me because, in order to holla at chicks effectively, you need working capital. You need money for clothes, cover charges, and dates, (even cheap dates cost money,)

I finally decided, that my ducks would never be in proverbial row, and as was stated in Napoleon Hill's "Think and Grow Rich," I was going to have to work with the tools that I was given and acquire better tools along the way.


Mr Wright said:
1. That Honey chick even though she had interest in you wouldnt give it up until you told some crappy lie to finally get her into bed...or so you thought. There's a difference between telling her you're with a chick if she directly asks(she did not) and bringing it up directly.
One day, ole Rex is going to have to give a detailed account his and "HONEY'S," relationship in chronological order. I neglected to include one important facet to this particular story. It wasn't my intention to f*ck her a$$, actually it was quite the opposite. I wanted her to leave me the f*ck alone.

At this point in time, Rex had grown tired of "HONEY'S," shenanigans and her incredibly large sense of entitlement. I figured that by telling her that I going to f*ck somebody else, then she would leave me alone, but as I said the opposite happened. With "HONEY," I had even gone as far as to let my female classmates answer my phone when she called. Instead of getting upset, she would want to know who the chicks was and she wanted a detailed account of our sexual exploits. It literally took me six months of not taking "HONEY'S," calls and I think that she's finally gotten the idea that I ya boy ain't f*ckin' with her. Either that or she got a boyfriend or lost my number, whatever the reason, she hasn't called me in month and has yet to call me in January, for which I'm very glad.

There's a reason why they call this "seduction sh*t, The Game." It is a game of sorts and cold irony is that WOMEN dictate the parameters and rules in which the game will be played.

Lying to a chick is tell her you own a janitorial firm, when you're merely a janitor. Doing some of the things Tom Leykis suggested like having business cards made up saying you're a film producer, driving to a housing development with mansions under construction and pointing to house, saying that "x," house is under construction is yours, or lying about you're income.

Giving a woman the impression that other women find you attractive is no different than having a hundred FB friends that never actually see, it's a form of social proof. Women have deemed it odd if men don't have other around them. They're going to wonder what's wrong with the guy. It only benefits me if the chick thinks that I'm in demand.


Mr Wright said:
You probably didn't realise that she would have banged you anyway, surely you could have figured that out? What you said was a catalyst but it probably would have happened if you met up with her and made a move anyway.
No it wouldn't and this wasn't for a lack of trying on my part.

Mr Wright said:
2. You've been a member here since 2005 and you're still advising guys to lie their way into bed.
No I haven't and you need to find the thread where I did. The only thing that I've told dudes not to be honest about is plate spinning.

Mr Wright said:
you should be way past talking about banging a girl it took you 10 years to smash.
You're right in that I should have left "HONEY," alone a long time ago, but she would always call, (not that's it's an excuse,) maybe if I had other options, I wouldn't have dealt with her, who knows. However, she would always be the one who initiated contact. Even after the two other times I went bad on her fat a$$, for some reason she'd call. It was only after she told me what she told me I was like "F*ck it," irony this was after she decided to act like an adult and start f*ckin' ya boy on the reg.
 

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Mr Wright said:
You know you'd lament any other guy for doing the same thing.
Because I know what will lead to and how it will leave you feeling. Some dudes just need a strong talking to because they're doing things that defies logic. Even at my worst, I wouldn't have done some of this sh*t that some of these cats are doing. These dudes are in need of an intervention and counseling. Use Rex as an example, don't make the the mistakes he's made and do the things he's done right.

Also, some of these dudes know what they need to do, but the Beta in them is telling them otherwise, in that case a harsh dose of reality will. Then you have to figure that Rex is brutal and crass muthaf*cka and this is how he talks.


Mr Wright said:
Where are your options? Spinning plates and all that...after nearly 10 years on the site you thought you would actually have other options rather than having to consider lying as a tool.
Finances has always been a problem for me, (not that is an excuse,) when I joined the site, soon after, I moved back home to California. My goal once in CA was to get back to NY ASAP. One of the things that hinder my sarging in The Bay was a lack of transportation. The entire two years that I was there I didn't have a car. Anybody who knows any thing about areas without decent subways systems, knows you need a car to travel. I didn't have a car to get to places that females would be also, I was incredibly depressed while I was in California, not to excuse not sarging because often times you have to make the best of your situation.

Upon coming back to New York, I was stuck in a f*cked up job for 2 1/2 years. Again, (not using it as an excuse,) I felt that I would have been better for me to sarge clubs and what not, the thing was I worked on Friday nights, and I had to at work at 10 A.M. on Saturday and Sunday. (Which is why on some of my field reports you see me violating the rule against sarging co-workers. It was because I literally didn't give a f*ck about the job.


Mr Wright said:
I see the point you were getting at, let her know you have options but the way you present it could have the opposite effect simply because you're volunteering the info too freely. I'm surprised it worked, I'd almost say fair play but I would not class this as something to use consistently.
It depends on the situation and the chick, but I would default to letting her know as opposed to getting it a secret, especially when you do have plates spinning.

So what if she leaves, at least she's leaving based on an informed decision as opposed to you hiding sh*t from her and if she stays, you knows what you're about and she can come back talking about you lied to her. In my opinion, you get a "w" either way.


Mr Wright said:
3. You're too stubborn. I doubt you will take anything I say on board.
I'm not stubborn. I just suffer from a severe case of approach anxiety coupled with "life happening."

Mr Wright said:
You seem to be forever talking about the same 4 chicks. You're stuck in the past. In my opinion it's because you're not getting what you want in the present so you're clinging to the past and the odd glory story.
It because these are the chicks that I have the most experience and dealings with. I hoping that will change.

Mr Wright said:
The only reason why you wouldn't do this is because you're scared because the pvssy is on a pedestal or things aren't working out for you.
This is were I disagree with you. I haven't pedstalize the gina. It's that I have to unlearn a habit I've literally build up some I was 12 years old. Sh*t is going to take time, and to tell the true, I don't I'll ever truly get over it, but I just don't want it to stop like it did on New Year's Day.

Mr Wright said:
4. You don't practice what you preach. I read through your journal thread to make sure I wasn't being unfair but it's true, you broke your own rules(and failed) with that fat Dominican chick, she was a 19 yr old single mother who smoked pot.
I understand your point, but I was like, "F*ck it. I'll treat like batting practice. If she responds, she responds, if she doesn't she doesn't." However, I do need to leave those single moms alone. 19 year old Dominicans are a different story.

Mr Wright said:
Another issue I saw was that you seem to completely analysis every chick before anything happens. I know you're doing it because it's like a military thing but the problem with it is that in your mind she has become to prize and I'd add in none of your reports do you inject any sexuality.
Well, like I said, part of the reason I do field reports is for my own benefit and I do go back and read them from time to time. Being that I do that, I need a detail account of what happened during the interaction for future reference.

Mr Wright said:
5. Read your own advice and implement it because most of it is actually decent.
I try to and I definitely need to be more aggressive. I have to give you major props because you actually did what I suggested.
 
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