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Ok, so I met a girl online almost a month ago. We have now hung out twice in person. The first time we went to lunch and the second time (this last saturday) she came to my place and I cooked us dinner and we watched a movie.

Before we ever even met she asked me why I wasn't a perv and said that it was a breath of fresh air because she is sick of getting messages from guys asking her for sex.

Anyway, so we had our second date and I still haven't even kissed her or anything. We layed on the couch together and we talked for hours. She mentioned some other guys she has been with and how she found it annoying when they tried to fu** on the second date or so. And she said that it's not fun when you do that.

Is this girl being for real? I know I'm not in the friendzone or anything. She txt me again tonight just to see what I was up to and I kept it very brief. Not really sure when I should txt her again or even see her again.
 

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Since you met online as total strangers and actually seem to enjoy each other's company, you might cut her a little slack, but you should at least be making out by the next date.
 

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Is she really acting like she doesn't want it though? Because it sounds like she's doing a lot of talking about it. And remember, you can't judge chicks by what they say (because us savvy guys know it's 99% bull).

I would rethink your evaluation of whether or not you're in the friend-zone. Trust me, back in my more naive days, I had similar conversations with girls, and guess where I ended up in no time? Yep, friend-zone. The more you become Mr. Safe-guy vs. Mr. Sex-threat, the faster you're on your way. She may say she's sick of the guys who go straight for sex, but deep down those are the guys that usually prevail over AFC's.

Also, girls that put you in the friend-zone will still text you, because they want to reassure themselves that they still have you wrapped around their fingers. It's a big ego-booster/rationalization thing.

Don't be her tampon man. What's her body language like when you're on the couch with her?
 

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Rhino:

JCballin is 100% on in everything he just said.
 

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So then what is my next move? I think this girl is different though. Like earlier she txts me to say she is sorry she kept me up so late the other night. I think she is insecure or something. I don't think I'm in any kind of friendzone. I was talking about sex, too. It wasn't just her.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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Rhino22 said:
I think this girl is different though.

Really? if a girl has girl-friends, shes not different

I think she is insecure or something.
maybe you answered your own question?
zzz
 

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Actually she told me she doesn't really have many girl friends. Mostyl g uy friends but I know these were "dates" that we went on because she called them that. So, try to make out with her next time?
 

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I'd be very careful here, in that you are already placing a higher value on this chick. You're saying she's "different", etc. Do your thing, and if she's not receptive then "NEXT".
 

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I think you really should be kissing her on the next date. You dont have to go from kissing to sex, there is so much middle ground to cover, explore it slowly, and she will stop you if she thinks you are moving too fast.

Kiss her by placing your hand on her waist, and as the kissing progressesmove it up to her breasts, if she isnt putting up a fight or backing off, she wants it to progress.
 

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Rhino22 said:
Ok, so I met a girl online almost a month ago. We have now hung out twice in person. The first time we went to lunch and the second time (this last saturday) she came to my place and I cooked us dinner and we watched a movie.
While it's good you got her to feel comfortable enough to come back to your house for the second date,DON'T BE FOOLED into thinking she doesn't want sex.

If she's had some type of tramatic history of sexual abuse or something like that,I might be inclined to believe her,but even then,I'd be suspect.


Quite simply,I DO NOT believe her.


I think she's simply testing you to see where you're at,to see if you're only after sex,or really want to get to know her as a person.

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Before we ever even met she asked me why I wasn't a perv and said that it was a breath of fresh air because she is sick of getting messages from guys asking her for sex.
This is DEFINATELY a test. I say that because this statement is weird. It makes no sense.




Why would some stranger who you've never met before ask you why you're not a pervert?

That question is down-right DUMB,offensive is what it is.




She was also hinting at something as well. She said she was sick of getting messages from guys asking for sex,and she told you that WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING YOU.




So that means she was hoping you'd get the hint and not be one of those guys asking for sex as well.


Don't misunderstand:it's NOT that she doesn't want sex,she just doesn't want your interest in her to be about sex ONLY.




She wants to be viewed as a person,a human being,an individual,NOT as a pair of boobs and vag walking around.


Once she knows and believes you see her as a person,I believe she'll be more open sexually with you....BUT as Cinamon said,you DO need to escalate.




You gotta do something romantic/sexual. Start small:Hold her hand,tell her you like the way she looks in something,etc.


Give her a hug,but right before you do,tell her to make sure she keeps her hands above your waist. :D




These little things will steer her mind to a sexual place with you,WITHOUT being too overboard or agressive.


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Anyway, so we had our second date and I still haven't even kissed her or anything. We layed on the couch together and we talked for hours.
You laid on the couch and talked for hours.

Hmm. You better be careful doing that. Not doing anything sexual plus talking for hours can be a recipe for disaster.


It would be helpful to know what you two spent all that time talking about,though.



Also,when you two were laying on the couch,was she in your arms or what?


Did you caress her,play with her hair,or anything like that? Or were you just lying there afraid to do ANYTHING because you didn't want to offend her?




Rhino22 said:
She mentioned some other guys she has been with and how she found it annoying when they tried to fu** on the second date or so. And she said that it's not fun when you do that.
Let me ask you a question:You keep saying that "she said this" and "she said that" and "she mentioned this".


Umm...did you speak at anytime on these dates,or did you just respond to everything she said?



I don't like the way the frame is set up here. It's like she just went on and on about guys being perverts,guys asking for sex,and guys trying to fu*k her after a date or two,and you just sit there and listened while she babbled on the whole time.




That's NOT GOOD man. You gotta open your mouth and talk to generate some attraction in her.

If you just sit back and let her run the show,she'll run it right into the ditch,and NOT ON PURPOSE.,but she'll still do it.




Where's the busting,the teasing,the negging from you? Where's the playfulness?


When she told you she told you she gets annoyed when guys try to fu*k her on the second date,You should have hit her with something like...


"Oh,I'd NEVER do something like that,I have too much respect for women. That's not me. I usually wait until the third or fourth date,then I try to get it on".



She probably would have cracked up laughing AND felt a jolt of attraction for you at the same time.





Don't let this girl make you timid. And let's say you are right,and she in fact doesn't want sex. Well if that's the case,then fine,it's her life.



She can be asexaul if she wants. Now that she's decided what she wants for her life...




YOU DECIDE what you want for YOURS. Don't let her decision for herself cause YOU to be unhappy.




She simply needs to go find a guy who she can be asexual with (good luck),and you need to go find you a girl you WANTS TO BE sexual with you.



There's no point in two people who want two different things trying to force the other one into something they don't want.
 

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Yeah she's not acting like she doesn't want sex....Shes portraying to you how she dislikes how most guys go about trying to get sex!!! big difference buddy
 

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Sounds like she's trying to make herself seem desired by other guys, how all the guys are chasing her and how she isnt like that etc. etc. bullsht.

Dont let it phase you, you still need to be escalating and leading forward because deep down thats what you and her both want. Let her talk crap if she wants.
 

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Yes, I talked too. It wasn't a one sided conversation where she just talked about other dudes. There is definitely some chemistry there. It's funny when you come posting in here and people read what you say and interpret it and it's really nothing like the reality of the situation lol. Yes we even talked about sex a bit. I got pretty dirty and twisted at times because I'm insane. She laughed and laughed and if she accepts me for being crazy then that is even better. No , she was not in my arms. She is kind of a closed off person and she has told me this. I can be too. We did sit very close on the couch together sharing a blanket and watching a movie though. We were up so late because we both had alot to talk about.

So, she is seeking out a relationship then wouldn't you say? She said that it's more fun when you wait a while to have sex. She even told me on the phone before we met that she liked how her ex waited like a month to kiss her...

So she txt me last night and we talked for like 10 minutes but i had to go to band practice. I have definitely been doing my own things. Should I txt her tonight? When should I make plans to see her again? I can't really do anything until after Friday.
 

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Ugh. maybe this chick is weird.

Anyway, I decided to txt her earlier tonight around 7 or so. I just said, "Hey, what's happenin?" I got no response until about 2 hours later...in the meantime I just did my own thing and pretty much blew her off. I didn't expect anything after a while. So finally she txts me back with, "On my way home." Well, I didn't really think there was any way to respond to that. She didn't ask how I was, what I was up to, etc. So I figured I would just blow it off. A while later she txts me back with, "Have a good one."

Um ok? So by this point I was kind of drunk and about 15 minutes later after her txt I say, "You are sexi" Lol don't ask why. THen after that I just say, "Just wanted to boost your ego." No response....

What the hell is wrong with me lol
 

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Rhino22 said:
Ugh. maybe this chick is weird.

Anyway, I decided to txt her earlier tonight around 7 or so. I just said, "Hey, what's happenin?" I got no response until about 2 hours later...in the meantime I just did my own thing and pretty much blew her off. I didn't expect anything after a while. So finally she txts me back with, "On my way home." Well, I didn't really think there was any way to respond to that. She didn't ask how I was, what I was up to, etc. So I figured I would just blow it off. A while later she txts me back with, "Have a good one."

Um ok? So by this point I was kind of drunk and about 15 minutes later after her txt I say, "You are sexi" Lol don't ask why. THen after that I just say, "Just wanted to boost your ego." No response....

What the hell is wrong with me lol

That was horrible honestly .....Why didn't you just give her a freakin' call after the "on my way home" text. Would have been perfect to chit chat a bit vibe with her, see if you can spark some excitement and then strike something up...Be it a date the next day or two. Or if you're feeling it, go for hanging out that same night.....just do something !! not no lame texts back.

Remember texting back and forth is only vital when absolutely necessary , when you have already built something intimate, or you're real good at coming off sexual/funny in them.
 

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Ok, so I txt her last night right before band practice. She told me she was doin well so I asked her if she had big plans for the weekend and she told me just this hockey game on friday night...which I already knew about. I said we should so something Sunday evening maybe. She goes, "Sunday evening? Interesting time lol. Not that it's a bad time or anything." So I said, "Well, I'm playing for a birthday party Friday. I might be able to do Saturday though" She goes, "Either way." This girl has told me she doesn't have much of a life lol. I do though...I am a pretty busy guy. The truth about Saturday is and I did not tell her...I am kind of broke and I am supposed to get my paycheck that day but there is a chance I won't.
 

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You are telling the truth about her being sexy, and lying about Saturday night. Switch that around. If she has no life, then it does not matter that you have no money. Your company should be enough. And don't tell her she's sexy again...until she's naked. Then it's ok. But never again until then.
 

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I talked to her on the phone tonight. I can't figure this chick out at all. I got kind of ****y with her...I was like, "Well, I know you missed talkin to me" She would kind of laugh when I would get ****y like that but other times she would be like, "Um ok.." We got to the point about Saturday and I said we should hang out. I don't know what the hell we will do but we'll hang out. She laughed and said something about meeting up and then deciding. I know chix like guys to lead the way and always have everything figured out but lately I have been so scatter brained and busy that I really can't think of anything to do other than fu*k and with this chick...I'm not really even sure how to go about doing that.
 
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