When the ' Being a man ' ideal goes too far.

[NHY]

No, I'm am NOT talking about acting the wussy or killing people, what I mean, is other seemingly well intentioned but protentially distructive ideals that could destroy you as a person. When they think they are ' helping ' you when in fact, following thier advice would be a disaster waiting to happen.

Myself, my family, especailly my brother, has serious issues with me being into Mario & Sonic, stuff like that, to me, its a relatively harmless hobby as well as keeping me in touch with my inner child, ( something I suggest all DJs should do ), to them it is childish nonsense that needs to ' snapped out ' of me in order for me to be ' normal '

He just told me, literally 5 minutes ago after seeing me on a Mario website, that I need to ' snap out of it ' and that I could be in a pub, talking to a girl and then I would say ' You know what I did, last night? I was talking to Yoshi on the computer! ' something, that even in my freaking AFC days, I would NEVER say in a million years!

Well, let me tell you this. Once upon a time, I actually believed them and tried to supress it. Basiclly, surpressing led to me losing my zest for life for like... 4 years, turned me totally AFC and ended in me conisdering killing myself! It was THE WORST MISTAKE I EVER MADE! Good thing I started to ignore them now, that and literally everyone I know would be on my side in regards to this.

So, basiclly, my family are just a bunch of hypocritical, alcohol abusive *******s who manage to insult everything that makes me... well.... ME. Isn't part of being a DJ encouraging all parts of yourself? How the hell can I be one if I'm told to surpress one of the most important parts of me?

Sorry for the rant, its just what my brother said to me a few minutes ago and the fact my parents support him just annoys to me to hell!

 

[Egoist]

sonic? mario?

what the hell, man? no really, do grow up.

giving up that caused you to lose zest for life and almost caused you to commit suicide?

what. the. hell?

 

[superman2k6]

lol...

you can keep your obsession with mario and all that if it keeps you alive and all, but just keep in mind that you're a nerd if you do

but seriously dude, i agree about having a passion for something in life such as music or whatever, but you almost killed yourself because you suppressed your obsession with mario and yoshi?

maybe you should get out more

 

[brucevangeorge]

You sound like a >12 year old, you soyed up hippie. Stop drinking that **** and grow up! Get into the gym and flush your body with hormones that make you be a MAN. Ever heard of testosterone? It's the ****!

I hate to be the one that tells the kid there's no Santa Claus, but THERE ISNT. There's no mario or yoshi either. If all of this seems a little harsh and insulting thats because it is. No one cares about Mario. You shouldn't care either. It's an obsession.

Yes it is.

Mario is a figment of some Korean guy's imagination. He is a character in a game. A puppet if you will, to be controlled by a character in the game. In the game you do missions and quests and collect imaginary $$$ and try to get some ass from that princess peach. All of this for the purpose of "fun".

But what it this fun for? So the developers can make money. Ooodles and Oodles of money all from you who sit in front of the computer mezmerized at how cool Mario is. Well he isnt, in fact he's not even Italian.

Mario is crap. Videogames are crap. Go outside get drunk or whatever you like to do, party, meet chicks, get laid and have fun. Get it together, you can do it.

 

[Duke]

I used to sort of be in the same situation, although not as exteme as you. Used to have a fixation with the Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles. But realize all this crap, including Mario and Sonic, was created to make money-- to be marketed at kids that me and you used to be.

I think Shigeru Miyamoto is a genius video-game designer, but come on man... its all just marketing and economics. If Mario didn't appeal to kids, he would have never flourished. If you're THAT into Mario, you're basically an unwitting tool of the corporate structure.

 

[brucevangeorge]

YEAAAAHHH!!!! THANK YOU DUKE! THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING.

 

[organizedconfusion]

i don't think he meant just mario & video games messed him up
in the head, i think it has to do with his brothers tormenting
him and making him feel like crap.
i have a feeling he's one of those guys really into video games,
anime, cartoons and comic books...if that's your thing..
Good! it's your thing and it's no ones buisness if
you had 1 or 1,000,001 mario comics or cards.
Will it get you laid? Does it matter? are you into it because
you enjoy it yourself-or is your life just filled with gimmicks
and gadgets to 'get laid'.
Bravo, you're being yourself and you enjoy the hobby-
at least your being real and not another dork wanna be PUA
thinking that he's all that ,strutting around like a rooster and
teasing girls thinking he's being '****y funny'...

 

[Wyldfire]

I'm old enough to be your mother and I play Final Fantasy XI because it's fun and I enjoy it. If you like Mario and Sonic then all the more power to you. Screw what anyone else says...you have to do what makes YOU happy.

Oh yeah...and I'm a woman...yeah, video games might seem a little dorky, but you know what...as long as they don't take up your entire life it's all good.

Do what you want and don't let anyone tell you any differently.

 

[NHY]

Thanks, Mr organizedconfusion, that is quite true for you to say. after all, the reason I am taking the DJ Journey is not to get laid like theres no torromow but more as to find an LTR and better myself in the process. I'm into Mario because I enjoy it and want my inner child to vibrant and healthy as well. In fact, I'd actually like to work for Nintendo some day.

I could see a day when I can let go of this but I'm still nowhere near ready enough to do so. I appriecate where your everyone else is coming from but you all sounded like my brother, which is not really any help at all. Let me tell you this, if I ever caught him either seriously bad - mouthing me behind my back OR destroying any of my stuff related to Mario ( drawings only really ) , then he'd find out VERY QUICKLY that I can be a man when I want to!

Brucevangeorge: So you want me to get drunk, party and sleep around? Isn't that a DESTRUCTIVE way of living? Now, don't me wrong, if you balance it, then your alright but I was never really a party person to begin with.

Duke: I am well aware of all this corporate crap, theres good reason for example why I detest Sony's Playstation range.

To anyone who read The Game; can't you see what I am trying to avoid? Style wasn't too pleased to see what he called ' mini - mes ' runnig all over LA. Though PUA is another thing completely different to a DJ ( I think ) , I just don't want to become one of them, it would feel too fake.

 

[organizedconfusion]

no biggie...

i just think it would be really sad if alot of guys out there suddenly
quit the things they loved to do ,whatever it may be-
because it wasn't 'alpha' or 'cool' enough or whatever,
which is soo much bullsh*t...why? so they could be more
'whatever' to be more 'attractive'? when in reality, being
genuine and uninhibitedly yourselves is the most attractive
trait of all? c'mon... i am not saying bust out the plaid pants up
to your chest and pocket protectors or anything, (but if that's
your thing...)

Okay, if someone is a whigny,wimpy,victimy wussbag..
they may have issues, it's cool- ... better yourself.
But if along the way you ditch everything that you liked
to do for your new improved self...you might have to
question , i am doing this for 'me' because i no
longer enjoy it or because i am trying to be someone
else by doing it? the choice is yours...


'..Never make excuses for anything that you want in your life'...
The Lengendary 'Rick H'


speaking of Mario-
girls would literly go bonkers when they saw i had an 'old school'
nintendo and would get all giddy and happy ,like a little kid...
'...oh my god! mario! i haven't played this in ages!...'

 

[brucevangeorge]

Wyldfire, here's the problem:

"Well, let me tell you this. Once upon a time, I actually believed them and tried to supress it. Basiclly, surpressing led to me losing my zest for life for like... 4 years, turned me totally AFC and ended in me conisdering killing myself! "

Now, that's the messed up part. He is obviously obsessed with this stuff and its not healthy.

And NHY, its alot less destructive than livning with Mario! Like you said keep a balance. You can play Mario videogames but you have to realize that they ARE NOT the Zest in life.

 

[A-Unit]

Re:

The only Truth you can follow is that which is your passion.

Don't take words from guys on boards, NHY.

That's the FIRST task to being human. Live your own truth of what makes you happy. Follow those fancies and wherever they may lead.

MOST people I know play video games, from age 18 to age 45, and beyond. Many of the guys still doing it in their 30's and 40's have hot-wired their homes to getting free cable, media, video games, and much, much more. They work for tech companies. Maybe they're not @ bars, or clubs, or sports games, but they do enjoy their life, which is the purpose of it.

I would say, I've had as much fun (and got in to less trouble) playing games than being out partying with some of the schmucks I've been out with. On the flip side, some of the social scenes blow away the gaming.

Point is, who's to know what makes you happy but you?

Each person is here for their own spiritual evolution, and will get to what they want in time.

There are plenty of women who play games, too.

I don't get why this is an issue.

Something is ONLY an issue when it prevents healthy-living, when you're leeching off other's to live, or you wake up at 50 having only spent your life in fantasy zone. That would just be sad. Otherwise, games, to me, are better than the crap on TV, which to me influences kids MORE than games.

I'd prefer games and books over tv.


A-Unit

 

[brucevangeorge]

A-Unit you have a very good argument. But there is one tiny flaw: the kid tried to kill himself because of the videogames. Now, doesn't that seem like an obsession?

Balance is the key. Don't go telling the kid to follow his passion. This is beyond that, it became toxic, and it will get even worse. Now I'm not saying stop altogether, if he likes it then good. But that shouldn't be his life. Games do not equal Life. Its just a form of entertainment. If games are the Zest of life like he said, he needs to see a psychiatrist.

To the kid: Like A-Unit said, you don't have to listen to anyone on these boards or take any of the advice. However, I believe you have a serious problem that you need to fix. Something's messing you up and you need to fix it. It's your duty to find out what it is and what to do about it, and no one is going to hold your hand.

 

[organizedconfusion]

..dude. 4 years ago he was still only 15..imagine how life was when you were only 14-15 and everything meant life of death...
it's a tough time if you're getting your ego bashed constantly by
peers..

 

[Porky]

good choice.

do whatever will make you happy in life. the only time you should somebody else's wishes before yourself is if making them happy will make you happy.

 

[A-Unit]

Re:

Well, let me tell you this. Once upon a time, I actually believed them and tried to supress it. Basiclly, surpressing led to me losing my zest for life for like... 4 years, turned me totally AFC and ended in me conisdering killing myself! It was THE WORST MISTAKE I EVER MADE! Good thing I started to ignore them now, that and literally everyone I know would be on my side in regards to this.

I highlight this part for clarification. And if go by what he's typed, until he restates what he said, HOW I took it, was that he listened to his family that he would be a loser if he played games the rest of his. In turn, he felt a tinge of depression. And decided he wanted to OFF himself.

I'd say that explains ALOT of people who don't live out their DEEPEST feelings, doesn't it?

Alot of people are persuaded to live a certain way, assuming reality means for them to do so, and they become QUITE unhappy as a result.

I just think, for someone who's young, they don't know what they want. I do believe TOO much fantasy is bad, bad news. There's a fine line, where if you're playing games vs. working, vs. health vs. family, or friends, a problem develops. But strike a balance. If you're asking for a thumbs up on this, you have my thumbs-up to play them, but remain balanced. About all things.

Games just have that FANTASTIC and ESCAPIST quality that lends people to leaving their lives behind. Find, attend to your RPG character's life better than your own, make him all powerful, that might give you TEMPORARY satisfacation until you need a new game, or realize, HEY it's sunny, let's go out and get some VITAMIN D!

I couldn't game 5 hours a day, but when it's cold, after the gym, or while eating, I throw Halo 2 on and game for 30 minutes until I'm pissed enough to break it. I USED to play with DUAL tv sets and DUAL Xboxs on XBOX live with my pal in the same room, same team, and would do this in the mini blizzards we had last winter. So yeah, I could game for 4 hours, but when I do, I feel like the world has moved beyond me so i wake up. I know both sides of the coin, I love the games, and they're wonderful, some like books, but a HEALTHY balance must be held, if only for living.

You don't want it etched on your tombstone that you were a MASTER D&D player, Mario, Luigi, Zelda, Link, Metroid, Master Chief, or anything.

R.I.P
1987-2050
Here lies Master Chief, conquerer of XBOX, NINTENTDO, PLAYSTATION 1,2,3.

-No Name-
-No Family or friends came-
-In service, on Televisions seen weeping, were Yoshi, Mario, and Luigi. The Princess couldn't come because Bowser still had her in the castle; Master Chief now deceased didn't conquer Mario 50 in sufficient time.-



A-Unit

 

[NHY]

Re: Re:

R.I.P
1987-2050
Here lies Master Chief, conquerer of XBOX, NINTENTDO, PLAYSTATION 1,2,3.

-No Name-
-No Family or friends came-
-In service, on Televisions seen weeping, were Yoshi, Mario, and Luigi. The Princess couldn't come because Bowser still had her in the castle; Master Chief now deceased didn't conquer Mario 50 in sufficient time.-

lol, that brought a smile to my face. It sounds like how my brother would put it! :crackup:

In response to where my depression came from, well, that was only the begining, basicly, it started with that and ment for that peroid in my life, I felt as if I didn't have any control or say about anything that mattered to me. I was bullied at school ( even by a freaking teacher! ) , I had no friends and at this time, my parents drinking got even worse. Now do you see why I wanted to off myself?

brucevangeorge, I hope that clears things up a little, it was that action that slipped me into the depression which led to everything else.

Also, I have another great passion that co - existed with my extreme Mario fixation from childhood; Drawing. I always drew Yoshi & various other characters when I was child, so much so, it result in me getting very good at Art and being known as the best Artist in my class at one stage when I was 14.

When I was told to snap out of the Mario thing at first, I literally gave up drawing personally for 2 years at one point because of them because they were so connected. Fortunately, I took it up again and restored the passion. I still do a lot of Mario drawings admittedly but sometimes I do my own original characters and some real Art too. I'm highly artistic, something which I don't where the hell it came from as no one else in my family is so passionate about Art as me!

Also, Games are no longer my main zest for life, I can live without going on a computer for a few days at a time if the need arose. My zest for life now is varied, as well as video games, I'm interrested in Art, pyschology, in developing myself, loving others ( well, thoose who don't try to infring my soul )
and making something out of myself in life, hence, I'm in college now doing Graphic Design, which based on Drawing & Computers, both of which have being my main passions since childhood!

The pull of a negative family enviroment is so strong it's almost impossible to become the person you'd want.

Well said, Sazuki, couldn't have put it better myself. I hope to move of home sometime this year ( around September - October )

Admittedly, I used to play Videogames for hours on end all the time. I still tend to do so but usually only during the week when theres nothing else to do, at the weekend, I'm out in the town developing my DJ capabilites. I tend to stay on the computer as well till about 2am some nights BUT I'm usually doing something useful like reading up stuff here.

 

[Dimebag_Darrell]

Being a man means taking car of his own sh*t and not bringing down other people because they're different.

See a lot of guys think that being a man means acting like you're billy bad ass walking like your tough sh*t. And thats not ture at all. Being a man is one who is innovative, charming, humble and never fails to achieve his dreams and never passing up a good meal!

 

[superman2k6]

Originally posted by organizedconfusion
..dude. 4 years ago he was still only 15..imagine how life was when you were only 14-15 and everything meant life of death...
it's a tough time if you're getting your ego bashed constantly by
peers..

well i don't know about you since you were 15 about a decade ago, but nobody i knew that was 15 would have such an obsession with these video game characters

everybody has emphasised that it is fine to play video games as long as you don't let it run your life, but the point is that he DOES let it run his life

there are much more important things in life than mario and yoshi

 

[DjDreamer]

I don't think there is anything wrong with playing Mario due to trying to connect with your inner child but please don't tell me you sleep with Mario sheets... because that would just be weird... "hacking someone to death for disturbing your inner child while you wear a Mario mask" weird...

Originally posted by NHY
When I was told to snap out of the Mario thing at first, I literally gave up drawing personally for 2 years at one point because of them because they were so connected. Originally posted by NHY Fortunately, I took it up again and restored the passion. I still do a lot of Mario drawings admittedly but sometimes I do my own original characters and some real Art too. I'm highly artistic, something which I don't where the hell it came from as no one else in my family is so passionate about Art as me!

You got your own characters? Good... you're not a total Nintendo tool... shows you are obtaining sanity... you are focusing less on Mario and more on more important things... things call goals... like Mario trying his hardest to get the Princess and not taking time to fantasize about Yoshi... it's all a matter of priorities...